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Re: Bit disappointed in my 9mm
[Re: dirkdaddy]
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12/13/19 12:13 PM
12/13/19 12:13 PM
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Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 951 Central Alabama
Super Dave
6 point
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6 point
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 951
Central Alabama
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I use 255 g lead cast 45acp bullets in my Glock . Haven't had a chance to try them out, but my guess is whatever I hit with it is gonna lay down fast if I get one in the boiler. Came damn close to having to pull my pistol in the dark on something big the other morning, didn't have a good enough light to see what it was. I wouldn't want a 9mm in that situation. Might want to do a little research on cast bullets and factory Glock barrells. If I recall correctly non copper jacketed bullets will cause issues due to lead fouling according to Glock. Some shooters will dispute that issue and say they do it all the time and do not have a problem. I own several Glocks and I'm not going to go against the company's reccomendations. If you have an aftermarket barrel you should be good to go. David
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Re: Bit disappointed in my 9mm
[Re: Jason Carroll]
#2983866
12/13/19 01:17 PM
12/13/19 01:17 PM
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Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 30,910 Clanton, AL
Out back
Grumpy Old Man
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Grumpy Old Man
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 30,910
Clanton, AL
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It's not the caliber it's the bullet. Exactly. More likely pilot error.
My opinions and comments are my own. They do not reflect the position or political opinions of Aldeer or any of the Aldeer administration.
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Re: Bit disappointed in my 9mm
[Re: Super Dave]
#2983873
12/13/19 01:24 PM
12/13/19 01:24 PM
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Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 2,615 Alabama
dirkdaddy
10 point
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10 point
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 2,615
Alabama
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I use 255 g lead cast 45acp bullets in my Glock . Haven't had a chance to try them out, but my guess is whatever I hit with it is gonna lay down fast if I get one in the boiler. Came damn close to having to pull my pistol in the dark on something big the other morning, didn't have a good enough light to see what it was. I wouldn't want a 9mm in that situation. Might want to do a little research on cast bullets and factory Glock barrells. If I recall correctly non copper jacketed bullets will cause issues due to lead fouling according to Glock. Some shooters will dispute that issue and say they do it all the time and do not have a problem. I own several Glocks and I'm not going to go against the company's reccomendations. If you have an aftermarket barrel you should be good to go. David Thanks for the tip, I'll do some research. These bullets I have are made by Underwood and have some sort of polymer coating on them.
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Re: Bit disappointed in my 9mm
[Re: Bulls eye]
#2983890
12/13/19 01:58 PM
12/13/19 01:58 PM
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Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 12,712 behind my Dillon
dave260rem!
Skinny’s Ex
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Skinny’s Ex
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 12,712
behind my Dillon
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Glock 45acps have traditional rifling. Jarvis&lone wolf make great aftermarkets if it's a concern.
Skinny is my EX.Alcohol was involved.
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Re: Bit disappointed in my 9mm
[Re: Bulls eye]
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12/13/19 02:06 PM
12/13/19 02:06 PM
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Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 8,753 bessemer, al
hunterturf
14 point
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14 point
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 8,753
bessemer, al
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Finished off a doe 2 years ago with my g43. Hornady critical defense. Shot her in the neck from 10-12 yards. Mushroomed perfectly and was lodged under the skin on the opposite side. 115lb doe
Carried a keltec 32 cal while in college and attempted to finish off a deer my girlfriend had shot. At that point I realized a nerf gun would have been more effective than the hollow point I shot it with. I shot ball ammo for the remainder of time I carried it
Give me bout 15 more minutes, I was dreamin about beavers.......... Si Robertson
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Re: Bit disappointed in my 9mm
[Re: goodman_hunter]
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12/13/19 02:25 PM
12/13/19 02:25 PM
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Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 18,057 North AL
AU338MAG
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 18,057
North AL
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first of all, when you seen the deer dragging itself, you should of realized it was a spinal area shot, and shot the deer again.
2nd you need better 9mm ammo.
federal hst is my go to but there are several good ones, what you are shooting is not one of them. ALL of the above information is 100% correct. Get the federal HST 124 gr ammo for your 9mm and not the el cheapo Italian crap.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
Molon Labe
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Re: Bit disappointed in my 9mm
[Re: Bulls eye]
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12/13/19 02:37 PM
12/13/19 02:37 PM
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Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 112 Covington County, AL
Shhwing
3 point
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3 point
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 112
Covington County, AL
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why mess up front shoulder meat unloading a 9mm in the vitals when a head shot to begin with would have ended the suffering instantly. Ive shot one running away from me aiming at the back of the head with a 270 but split the spine on her a** instead. Didnt kill her but she wasnt going anywhere. I grabbed her front legs so she wouldnt kick me and cut her throat. I didnt have a pistol on me then since I was to young to own one anyways, and I didnt think it would be smart firing close range on a second shot to the head with a 270. Didnt take her long to bleed out.
Last edited by Shhwing; 12/13/19 02:38 PM.
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Re: Bit disappointed in my 9mm
[Re: Irishguy]
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12/13/19 02:56 PM
12/13/19 02:56 PM
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Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 10,484 Bham
Dallas County
Booner
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Booner
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 10,484
Bham
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The militaries of the World use 9mm, because they aren't trying to kill people they are trying to wound them. That's utter bulldoodoo.
not sure what the best way to handle them is but they shouldnt be on tv and gettn married and raisin kids
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Re: Bit disappointed in my 9mm
[Re: Bulls eye]
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12/13/19 03:03 PM
12/13/19 03:03 PM
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Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 12,712 behind my Dillon
dave260rem!
Skinny’s Ex
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Skinny’s Ex
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DC I know your intelligent and yes it sounds wrong but Mils want wounded to expend supplies and break morale. That's why elite small units always pick more effective calibers.
Skinny is my EX.Alcohol was involved.
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Re: Bit disappointed in my 9mm
[Re: Dallas County]
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12/13/19 03:07 PM
12/13/19 03:07 PM
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Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 11,949 Satsuma
kodiak06
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Booner
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The militaries of the World use 9mm, because they aren't trying to kill people they are trying to wound them. That's utter bulldoodoo. every training I attended had you shoot to kill, not wound...
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Re: Bit disappointed in my 9mm
[Re: kodiak06]
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12/13/19 03:13 PM
12/13/19 03:13 PM
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Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 22,700 Lickskillet, AL
Irishguy
a.k.a. Dingle Johnson
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a.k.a. Dingle Johnson
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 22,700
Lickskillet, AL
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The militaries of the World use 9mm, because they aren't trying to kill people they are trying to wound them. That's utter bulldoodoo. every training I attended had you shoot to kill, not wound... I guess I forgot my sarcasm emoji... It's the same crap that folks used to say about the M-16... That and the bullet tumbling though the air.
Last edited by Irishguy; 12/13/19 03:14 PM.
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Re: Bit disappointed in my 9mm
[Re: Bulls eye]
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12/13/19 03:29 PM
12/13/19 03:29 PM
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Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 10 AL
Red Meat
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spike
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Posts: 10
AL
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I always thought bullet weight equals penetration not bullet speed. Hence the .45cal. Heavier bullet than 9mm but less FPS. A number of factors play on penetration but one of the most important is velocity at point of impact. Next would be what it impacts first. With that a lot has to do with the style of projectile. Flat based rounds perform vastly different than a boat tailed round as fmj performs different than jhp , sp, or any style of wad cutter. The velocity at impact that carries thru the barrier (hide , hair , adipose tissue, thick canvas garments , etc) is what creates the actual wound cavity that follows the main path of the projectile. The expansion or deformation of the round depends again on the type projectile , what it impacts , and at what velocity the impacts and subsequent penetration occurs. For 9mm though Fed HST, SP GDHP, Win Ranger SXT should not be discounted at all from any barrel length on a standard duty weapon.
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