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Swindle & Palaniuk
#2968540
11/27/19 11:09 PM
11/27/19 11:09 PM
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Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 7,689 Falkville
MTeague
OP
14 point
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OP
14 point
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 7,689
Falkville
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Gerald Swindle and Brandon Palaniuk have announced that they are leaving MLF and heading back to Bass. Luckily for them they were able to claim Legendary status which put them back in the Elite Series....i bet there are a few others who wish they could go back as well.
I had much rather be tried by twelve than carried to my grave by six!!!!
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Re: Swindle & Palaniuk
[Re: klay]
#2968984
11/28/19 01:33 PM
11/28/19 01:33 PM
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Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 51,956 Round ‘bout there
Clem
Mildly Quirky
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Mildly Quirky
Joined: Dec 2002
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Round ‘bout there
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Good. Maybe a few others will so I can actually start following it again. There will be others. Gotta do what you think's best for you and family. Just part of business.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: Swindle & Palaniuk
[Re: MTeague]
#2969076
11/28/19 04:42 PM
11/28/19 04:42 PM
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Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 10,414 Scottsboro, Al
jbatey1
Lucky Bastage
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Lucky Bastage
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 10,414
Scottsboro, Al
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MLF was ok to watch, but nothing in the fishing world beat the drama of the final day/weigh-in for the Bassmaster Classic and everything that went into it.
The fool tells me his reasons; the wise man persuades me with my own.
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Re: Swindle & Palaniuk
[Re: Ben2]
#2969373
11/28/19 10:23 PM
11/28/19 10:23 PM
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Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 4,252 Jasper Al
eclipse829
10 point
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10 point
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 4,252
Jasper Al
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Not sure why anyone would want to fish professionally. There is no money in it imo. Endorsements are where the money is. Swindle and Vann Damm were making $500k annually 13 yrs ago.
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Re: Swindle & Palaniuk
[Re: desertdog]
#2969421
11/28/19 11:01 PM
11/28/19 11:01 PM
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Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 19,664 Pelham
Ben2
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 19,664
Pelham
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Ben I'm willing to bet there's some Guys with Full Time jobs. That fish Locally who are making more money than most Touring Pros. Yes sir. I know several of them good friends of mine, good friends with several on tour as well and they say they have no clue how 75% of the guys on tour are surviving cause they are not making any money and are away from family all the time and expenses are ridiculous all to win $50,000 in a good yr
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Re: Swindle & Palaniuk
[Re: Ben2]
#2969668
11/29/19 12:50 PM
11/29/19 12:50 PM
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Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 4,644 Michigan
Sasquatch Lives
10 point
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10 point
Joined: Jan 2018
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Michigan
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Ben I'm willing to bet there's some Guys with Full Time jobs. That fish Locally who are making more money than most Touring Pros. Yes sir. I know several of them good friends of mine, good friends with several on tour as well and they say they have no clue how 75% of the guys on tour are surviving cause they are not making any money and are away from family all the time and expenses are ridiculous all to win $50,000 in a good yr I think many of them were wealthy before they even started. Many own their own businesses which allows them a lot of time off to fish. I know one guy who is the best I have ever seen but doesn't have the capital or time necessary to fish professionally. I would even say probably some of the best bass fisherman are not even on any of the big time trails because its too risky. My bud used to win a lot of $ locally but got tired of all the bs. His dream was to fish BASS but it was too risky as he is just an ordinary working man and couldn't get enough time off. He has beaten a couple guys in local events who are now big time pros so I know he is better than them.
Last edited by Sasquatch Lives; 11/29/19 12:52 PM.
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Re: Swindle & Palaniuk
[Re: Ben2]
#2969697
11/29/19 02:26 PM
11/29/19 02:26 PM
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Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 1,931 Jackson Co.
JBL
8 point
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8 point
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 1,931
Jackson Co.
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Ben I'm willing to bet there's some Guys with Full Time jobs. That fish Locally who are making more money than most Touring Pros. Yes sir. I know several of them good friends of mine, good friends with several on tour as well and they say they have no clue how 75% of the guys on tour are surviving cause they are not making any money and are away from family all the time and expenses are ridiculous all to win $50,000 in a good yr Truth. I dont know how their wives put up with it either. I dont personally know anyone who has the type of wife who would still be with them after a year on tour. Where do these people find these women that put up with that??? I've heard of their wives helping fund it, I've heard people cashing out their retirement, taking loans, etc to fund it. I've heard the logic of treating it like a business and "well it'll take a few years to get positive cash flow or turn a profit." This is all hearsay but I believe it.
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Re: Swindle & Palaniuk
[Re: MTeague]
#2969718
11/29/19 03:34 PM
11/29/19 03:34 PM
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Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 51,956 Round ‘bout there
Clem
Mildly Quirky
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Mildly Quirky
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 51,956
Round ‘bout there
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Y'all are all right in some ways. Some wives are incredibly supportive financially, emotionally, physically (driving trucks, backing boats). Some go on the road and some stay home. Some wives are in the other camp. They are worried about things, nag, berate, make the guy feel like schitt for being on the road and not making a check. The divorce rate probably is on average w/ America or maybe a bit higher. Most guys today, especially the younger ones, let the women know quickly what's going on with the money, travel and time away. They either get with the program from the get-go or don't last long. The women I know with the guys are supportive and enjoy it. Some guys make a living - retirement, pay bills, kids' college fund, all of that - but it's a minority. By that I mean maybe 20 guys, tops? Possibly 30. They're the established guys with solid deals who work their butts off on and off the water. They're valued by their sponsors, who pay them well. The majority maybe break even, and there's a group that loses money. How and why the last group stays with it, I don't understand. I guess they're like the poker player looking fdor one big score. Some guys have sponsors to start with. Some live in their trucks and eat peanut butter and maybe white bread, and drink water. Some hit the road winging it and others have a business plan with a 2- or 3-year outlook. It's a wide-ranging span. Most have off-season jobs as guides, graphic designers or other things. Others - most in the "making money" group - don't work outside of their pro angler job. I personally think some of the top guys fish the Opens or Costas (the AAA-level stuff) mostly to make money. They'll say they do it to "stay sharp" and if they qualify for the Classic or Cup, that's a bonus; IMO their biggest motivation is picking up extra checks along with fishing lakes-rivers that may be on the schedule in in a year or two. Some of the Open and Costa sites end up on the Tour or BPT-FLW schedules. In many ways it's similar to the mini-tours in golf - they're chasing a dream, driving crazy distances, going into debt, eating-sleeping chitty, supportive family-girlfriends or no girlfriend to get in the way, hoping to make enough and play well enough to get to the Korn Ferry Tour and eventually earn their Tour Card. How and why they do it, we don't completely understand. I know a guy with a wife and young kid who quit his job for his 3-year quest. I think he lasted two seasons, just hammer-beaten by the intensity and grind along with the mental grind of losing the money. His was a common story that's still being told each year. Some chase that dream, get over the hump and make it work. Here's one story of a Bama guy who's been out there, took time off and built up finances playing poker, and is now going back to fishing: http://www.bassfan.com/news_article/9787/welcher-prepared-to-go-all-in-on-elite-series#.XeGAmJNKgnUIf he can make it work, cool for him. Will be interesting to watch.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: Swindle & Palaniuk
[Re: MTeague]
#2969758
11/29/19 04:38 PM
11/29/19 04:38 PM
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Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 8,026 Alabama
Shaneomac2
14 point
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14 point
Joined: Sep 2016
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Alabama
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watching a b.a.s.s tourney is like playing atari. fun but graphics suck. MLF much better!
Georgia Football..Acts like Bama but has a trophy case like South Carolina.
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Re: Swindle & Palaniuk
[Re: Sasquatch Lives]
#2969867
11/29/19 07:29 PM
11/29/19 07:29 PM
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Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 3,397 Sylvania Alabama
Sandmtnslayer
10 point
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10 point
Joined: Jun 2019
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Sylvania Alabama
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Ben I'm willing to bet there's some Guys with Full Time jobs. That fish Locally who are making more money than most Touring Pros. Yes sir. I know several of them good friends of mine, good friends with several on tour as well and they say they have no clue how 75% of the guys on tour are surviving cause they are not making any money and are away from family all the time and expenses are ridiculous all to win $50,000 in a good yr I think many of them were wealthy before they even started. Many own their own businesses which allows them a lot of time off to fish. I know one guy who is the best I have ever seen but doesn't have the capital or time necessary to fish professionally. I would even say probably some of the best bass fisherman are not even on any of the big time trails because its too risky. My bud used to win a lot of $ locally but got tired of all the bs. His dream was to fish BASS but it was too risky as he is just an ordinary working man and couldn't get enough time off. He has beaten a couple guys in local events who are now big time pros so I know he is better than them. I'm sure the guy is good bi t u gotta remember that is his home lake. Throw them on a lake he don't know with them guys then gauge it from that
Not all Indians were hunters some toted firewood
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Re: Swindle & Palaniuk
[Re: Sandmtnslayer]
#2969952
11/29/19 08:51 PM
11/29/19 08:51 PM
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Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 4,644 Michigan
Sasquatch Lives
10 point
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10 point
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Michigan
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Ben I'm willing to bet there's some Guys with Full Time jobs. That fish Locally who are making more money than most Touring Pros. Yes sir. I know several of them good friends of mine, good friends with several on tour as well and they say they have no clue how 75% of the guys on tour are surviving cause they are not making any money and are away from family all the time and expenses are ridiculous all to win $50,000 in a good yr I think many of them were wealthy before they even started. Many own their own businesses which allows them a lot of time off to fish. I know one guy who is the best I have ever seen but doesn't have the capital or time necessary to fish professionally. I would even say probably some of the best bass fisherman are not even on any of the big time trails because its too risky. My bud used to win a lot of $ locally but got tired of all the bs. His dream was to fish BASS but it was too risky as he is just an ordinary working man and couldn't get enough time off. He has beaten a couple guys in local events who are now big time pros so I know he is better than them. I'm sure the guy is good bi t u gotta remember that is his home lake. Throw them on a lake he don't know with them guys then gauge it from that Well he has won good $ on Lay, Mitchell, Jordan and Smith. He is a wizard at finding fish.
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