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Re: The State of Waterfowl
[Re: cartervj]
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10/31/19 07:41 AM
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Remington270
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They'll pay hole sitters and then wear em out. What does this mean?
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Re: The State of Waterfowl
[Re: JayHook2]
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10/31/19 07:50 AM
10/31/19 07:50 AM
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Drake322
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DAMN guys, thread went to hell quick didn't it?
I have not been around any GREAT dogs, but have been around some good ones. Whining in the blind I cannot stand. Dog busting out of the blind as soon as someone stands up to shoot is another one.
One thing you have to remember, duck hunting will evolve and change like deer hunting. Some will stick with it, new ones will enter the sport, some will quit, and some will just start loosing the passion, like me. But, before I started loosing the passion, I passed it to my Son who is eat up with it! He is so obsessed, he has been to North Dakota last two years with his friends and loved it.
Wish I still had a hard on for it like he does....................................................
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Re: The State of Waterfowl
[Re: JayHook2]
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10/31/19 08:34 AM
10/31/19 08:34 AM
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tbest3
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Phil had some good videos. Him and Warren Coco shooting humpback 16's with lead sitting on buckets amongst the decoys....shooting deer out of the duck blind...spitting in a shell hull...it's raining jacks boys (may be my all-time favorite). One of my favorites too. I enjoy those videos.
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Re: The State of Waterfowl
[Re: Spec]
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10/31/19 10:58 AM
10/31/19 10:58 AM
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juice
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Don't let ignorance get in the way of a good story. I have no idea how many ducks any of my dogs have picked up hunting but I know I can only count a couple in the timber that didn't get recovered over their lifetimes. I can agree with everything that has been said but...…………...what the hell does an ecollar on a dog have to do with being a new duck hunter? I have a freaking field champion that is also a Grand Champion and that joker will have an ecollar on his neck anytime he hunts. That's about the most ignorant argument I've ever heard That’s all I needed to hear as a guide “ my dog is a grand national/ hunt trial champion “. My response is bring your waders cause I’m not getting out of the blind and I am dang sure not listening to a whistle every 2 seconds. My dog retrieved birds not plastic bumpers. Yes I had him on a whistle but only if I needed to direct him. I did learn he knew where the birds where better than me. I’m not saying your dog isn’t great. I’d rather someone talk about my wife than my dog. I am saying my dog had more than 16,000 retrieves in 13 seasons. That includes teal, bid duck and goose season. BTW never used an e-collar or threw rocks.:
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Re: The State of Waterfowl
[Re: juice]
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10/31/19 11:06 AM
10/31/19 11:06 AM
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juice
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And do me a favor, if your going to make fun of a dogs accomplishments try and get it right. Juice is an FC GRHRCH, the only one in the history of the world. I don't send semen all over the country because he's common. You sound like the one guide I hunted with in my life. After the first few volleys he realized my dog Rowdy was just a bit different than his dog with thousands of retrieves under his belt, so he said anyway. Ole fido didn't get sent anymore after the embarrassment wore off and he finally choked down his pride. The guy would have fainted had he hunted over Juice Don't let ignorance get in the way of a good story. I have no idea how many ducks any of my dogs have picked up hunting but I know I can only count a couple in the timber that didn't get recovered over their lifetimes. I can agree with everything that has been said but...…………...what the hell does an ecollar on a dog have to do with being a new duck hunter? I have a freaking field champion that is also a Grand Champion and that joker will have an ecollar on his neck anytime he hunts. That's about the most ignorant argument I've ever heard That’s all I needed to hear as a guide “ my dog is a grand national/ hunt trial champion “. My response is bring your waders cause I’m not getting out of the blind and I am dang sure not listening to a whistle every 2 seconds. My dog retrieved birds not plastic bumpers. Yes I had him on a whistle but only if I needed to direct him. I did learn he knew where the birds where better than me. I’m not saying your dog isn’t great. I’d rather someone talk about my wife than my dog. I am saying my dog had more than 16,000 retrieves in 13 seasons. That includes teal, bid duck and goose season. BTW never used an e-collar or threw rocks.:
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Re: The State of Waterfowl
[Re: Drake322]
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10/31/19 11:12 AM
10/31/19 11:12 AM
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juice
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Duck hunting has changed a lot just in the last few years. The public woods we hunt in Arkansas have turned into a circus even more so than they were already. The 4am rule has just made it worse if you ask me. We have a couple field leases just as a byproduct of the woods being so crowded. Id much rather be in the timber than a pit but there are times you can't even get around on the black thanks to the crowds. Years when there is low water its even worse--everyone is condensed. Let the river get out and it helps a lot. As far as the dogs--no one should have to put up with a vocal or breaking dog. There is nothing worse than listening to noise--most people have no idea how to address it and therefore they let the dogs turn into monsters. DAMN guys, thread went to hell quick didn't it?
I have not been around any GREAT dogs, but have been around some good ones. Whining in the blind I cannot stand. Dog busting out of the blind as soon as someone stands up to shoot is another one.
One thing you have to remember, duck hunting will evolve and change like deer hunting. Some will stick with it, new ones will enter the sport, some will quit, and some will just start loosing the passion, like me. But, before I started loosing the passion, I passed it to my Son who is eat up with it! He is so obsessed, he has been to North Dakota last two years with his friends and loved it.
Wish I still had a hard on for it like he does....................................................
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Re: The State of Waterfowl
[Re: Remington270]
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10/31/19 11:15 AM
10/31/19 11:15 AM
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juice
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Folks used to pay guys to sit on their holes overnight to hold it--some still do I'm sure but your not supposed to be in the GTR's after 1 anymore. Not long ago you could stay in a hole overnight if you felt like it--that's what they are referencing. They'll pay hole sitters and then wear em out. What does this mean?
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Re: The State of Waterfowl
[Re: JayHook2]
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10/31/19 01:23 PM
10/31/19 01:23 PM
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TickaTicka
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This thread is great. Y'all keep going.
But please, encourage your kids to do it. We've gotta get the next generation in, whether you agree with their approach or not.
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Re: The State of Waterfowl
[Re: TickaTicka]
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10/31/19 02:09 PM
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juice
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I agree. We get a bunch of kids out every year and you hook a few and some you don’t. A few youngsters had their first hunts last year on a morning we just happened to kill 60 big ducks by 10. Wind was wrong and they were shooting em in the ass but it was a good day. I got to run my dogs and let them get worn out, shot a couple ducks and watched a bunch of 10 year olds blow through a case of shells. It looked like a war had taken place when we cleaned up the shells!! This thread is great. Y'all keep going.
But please, encourage your kids to do it. We've gotta get the next generation in, whether you agree with their approach or not.
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Re: The State of Waterfowl
[Re: JayHook2]
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10/31/19 02:59 PM
10/31/19 02:59 PM
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Drake322
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My Son was 5 when I took him the first time. His first name is my call name on here. He is now 20. Still has his Charles Daly 20 youth. It has killed hundreds of ducks. He can run a call at his age way better than I ever was even when I was hunting 30+ days a year. I have got some pics of him on youth hunts at a friend's place holding three straps of Red Heads! Man that was a good day for the youth on that hunt. He had several more close to it until he turned 16.
There is one thing I will have before I check out of this world, hopefully. I want one more good dog. Period.
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Re: The State of Waterfowl
[Re: juice]
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10/31/19 08:23 PM
10/31/19 08:23 PM
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Spec
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I’ve never had a dog that hasn’t broken on a duck hunt. Juice has never broken in his life at any event but he fair caught a teal last year while I was taking a piss.
What part of Louisiana are you in? Lafayette. That is funny you say that about the dog and a teal. One of the last years my dog hunted he was swimming toward a downed bird and a about 5 green wings came in and lit on the water in front of him. He caught a drake by the ass. I would have mounted the bird but he beat his wings so hard I swear he only had a few feathers left on his wings.
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Re: The State of Waterfowl
[Re: Spec]
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11/01/19 07:35 AM
11/01/19 07:35 AM
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I’ve never hunted over that way any. I have a buddy that lives at shell beach if you know where that is. Closest city I can remember is Violet. They are outside Levi protection right on a canal. They have some private land near hopedale and we hunt the Biloxi marsh also. It’s been hit and miss and mostly miss the last few years. That Biloxi Marsh is pretty awesome though. Barely any hunting pressure compared to what we deal with in Arkansas but it’s one hell of a boat ride getting out there. I’ve never had a dog that hasn’t broken on a duck hunt. Juice has never broken in his life at any event but he fair caught a teal last year while I was taking a piss.
What part of Louisiana are you in? Lafayette. That is funny you say that about the dog and a teal. One of the last years my dog hunted he was swimming toward a downed bird and a about 5 green wings came in and lit on the water in front of him. He caught a drake by the ass. I would have mounted the bird but he beat his wings so hard I swear he only had a few feathers left on his wings.
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