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Re: Leupold CDS
[Re: AUwrestler]
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10/27/19 09:35 AM
10/27/19 09:35 AM
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AUwrestler
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Thanks for the input. I plan on using the dial for only this hunt. And will call the outfitter prior to ordering to get an elevation and load recommendation. For the one time use I think it will really help. Especially since most my shots are less than 100 now and the ability to just dial and hold would help me out. I disagree with the idea that Leupold is a low quality scope. Sorry not spending 2000 on a Zeiss or other higher end brand. But I will do my homework and then shoot at those distances first day we arrive to be sure I can make the best shot on the animal.
I believe that this is a practical world and that I can count only on what I earn. Therefore I believe in work, hard work. -George Petrie (1945)
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Re: Leupold CDS
[Re: AUwrestler]
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10/27/19 11:03 AM
10/27/19 11:03 AM
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James
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My vxr has the CDS but i don't use it, i have my Nightforce scopes for that job
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Re: Leupold CDS
[Re: gatorbait154]
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10/27/19 12:18 PM
10/27/19 12:18 PM
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My CDS is dead on from 100-400 yards and I love it.. It is until it isn’t and then you won’t😉
You're only as good as your worst shot-
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Re: Leupold CDS
[Re: gundoc]
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10/27/19 01:40 PM
10/27/19 01:40 PM
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R_H_Clark
Leupold Pro Staff
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I haven't experienced those issues with my scope, but if they are common, thanks for throwing it out there. I'd appreciate a link to folks discussing the problem. I don't think CDS is without drawbacks, but I like the "dial by yardage' approach.
6 inches @ 100yds is a massive difference, yes. I'm not familiar with that large of a change in 4000-5000 ft, but I have not shot it to see for myself. So, good input if that's the case. Ya'll know I agree about the Leupold scopes unreliability on dialing. That's why these jokers named me "Leupold pro staff". I think Leupolds are fine for most hunting but I wouldn't dial with one. Take your scope and dial it from it's current setting to max and back both ways about a dozen times and see it it comes back to your zero every time. I don't doubt a CDS Leupold would dial from 100 to 400 and back a few times but it's the constant back and forth that it won't hold up to and you won't know how many times it will actually work before it fails. It will dial in a pinch but it doesn't have strong enough internals to be durable in it's dialing. While I agree the basic hunting line isn't buit for repeated dialing, you think their scopes that are designed for such use can't hold up either? I have a friend who tests scopes for the military who tells me that there is really no difference in the internals of a VX2 and one of their higher end scopes. Even Leupolds top end military stuff has a much higher failure rate than Nightforce according to my friend who tests with tens of thousands of rounds dialed every year. Actually Zeiss and Swaro aren't any better though except for the newest models designed especially for dialing.
Last edited by R_H_Clark; 10/27/19 01:41 PM.
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Re: Leupold CDS
[Re: AUwrestler]
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10/27/19 05:51 PM
10/27/19 05:51 PM
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Never had a minutes trouble out of my Leupold cds scopes or their non cds scopes.
83% of all statistics are made up.
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Re: Leupold CDS
[Re: AUwrestler]
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10/27/19 06:54 PM
10/27/19 06:54 PM
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Thanks for the input. I plan on using the dial for only this hunt. And will call the outfitter prior to ordering to get an elevation and load recommendation. . That dial may or may not be on if you just go with a recommendation and what's on the box. Shoot through a chrono and do as they recommend. Friend of mine did and he was popping plates right outta the box with his dial at 600. I thought it was pretty cool.
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Re: Leupold CDS
[Re: 257wbymag]
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10/27/19 06:57 PM
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kodiak06
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My boss missed 4 antelopes under 150yds this week in WY. His CDS was set for 660’ elevation said aw it’ll be fine. Up there it mattered That's weird because it's a 4000 foot spread from the info you give them. If I order with 2000ft listed its supposed to be good from 0-4000. I'm guessing he choked
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Re: Leupold CDS
[Re: AUwrestler]
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10/27/19 07:35 PM
10/27/19 07:35 PM
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I’m gonna find out tomorrow.
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Re: Leupold CDS
[Re: kodiak06]
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10/27/19 09:05 PM
10/27/19 09:05 PM
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My boss missed 4 antelopes under 150yds this week in WY. His CDS was set for 660’ elevation said aw it’ll be fine. Up there it mattered That's weird because it's a 4000 foot spread from the info you give them. If I order with 2000ft listed its supposed to be good from 0-4000. I'm guessing he choked It’s not that elevation makes a big change, elevation actually makes no change. It’s air pressure. But anyway, changing environmental factors move your window of error up or down. On a target at a range with a perfect trigger pull and conditions, he probably wouldn’t see much change at all, even out to a few hundred yards. To make it simple, let’s say he’s 4” higher at 10k feet than he is it at 500 feet at 300 yards. That’s minute of deer, or whatever. But let’s say he also pulls the shot 6” high. Which is a very small glitch in the trigger pull or setup. That is now a miss at 300 yards, when at 500’ he’d still spine it. Just a vague generalization.
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Re: Leupold CDS
[Re: N2TRKYS]
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10/28/19 06:39 AM
10/28/19 06:39 AM
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R_H_Clark
Leupold Pro Staff
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Never had a minutes trouble out of my Leupold cds scopes or their non cds scopes. How many dialed yardage shots? What ranges?
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Re: Leupold CDS
[Re: R_H_Clark]
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10/28/19 07:22 AM
10/28/19 07:22 AM
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Never had a minutes trouble out of my Leupold cds scopes or their non cds scopes. How many dialed yardage shots? What ranges? About a couple hundred a year. I go out to around 400 yds.
83% of all statistics are made up.
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