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45 acp
#2924093
10/11/19 08:28 AM
10/11/19 08:28 AM
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I'm new to this, but what self defense ammo works best and what do i need to stay away from?
For without victory, there is no survival
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Re: 45 acp
[Re: goodman_hunter]
#2924153
10/11/19 10:31 AM
10/11/19 10:31 AM
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Scout308
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Make sure you use quality magazines. I use Wilson Combat.
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Re: 45 acp
[Re: goodman_hunter]
#2924157
10/11/19 10:35 AM
10/11/19 10:35 AM
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jb20
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I always alternate hornady critical defense and a heavy full metal jacket in my clips
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin
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Re: 45 acp
[Re: Scout308]
#2924189
10/11/19 11:32 AM
10/11/19 11:32 AM
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Make sure you use quality magazines. I use Wilson Combat. I'm glad you said that. It came with some mags but they're old and probably been loaded and not shot for 25 plus years.
For without victory, there is no survival
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Re: 45 acp
[Re: jb20]
#2924207
10/11/19 11:56 AM
10/11/19 11:56 AM
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AU338MAG
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I always alternate hornady critical defense and a heavy full metal jacket in my clips Do those clips stay in your hair when you put those heavy bullets on them? They are magazines, NOT clips.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
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Re: 45 acp
[Re: AU338MAG]
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10/11/19 12:02 PM
10/11/19 12:02 PM
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jb20
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I always alternate hornady critical defense and a heavy full metal jacket in my clips Do those clips stay in your hair when you put those heavy bullets on them? They are magazines, NOT clips. Magazines r something u read
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin
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Re: 45 acp
[Re: goodman_hunter]
#2924215
10/11/19 12:07 PM
10/11/19 12:07 PM
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87dixieboy
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Peter id get some of the federal HST. If you ever cruise on youtube look up TNoutdoors9 I believe it is. He does some pretty extensive testing on different manufactures. There is also another website I think I may can find ill shoot to ya.
Only accurate rifles are interesting.
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Re: 45 acp
[Re: goodman_hunter]
#2924236
10/11/19 12:46 PM
10/11/19 12:46 PM
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I like the hst, i just wasnt sure about hp in 45, always heard they jammed. Didnt know if there was any truth to that or not.
For without victory, there is no survival
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Re: 45 acp
[Re: goodman_hunter]
#2924295
10/11/19 03:29 PM
10/11/19 03:29 PM
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Wiley Coyote
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Winchester Ranger T is the old reliable and notorious Black Talon ammo without the black coating. It's wicked.
I firmly believe that a double gallows should be constructed on the East Lawn of The White House. Politicians who willfully and shamelessly violate their oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America should be swiftly tried and, upon conviction, publicly hanged at sunup the day after conviction. If multiple convicts are to be hanged they can choose with whom to share the gallows or names shall be drawn from the hangman's hat to be hanged 2 at a time.
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Re: 45 acp
[Re: Wiley Coyote]
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10/11/19 03:50 PM
10/11/19 03:50 PM
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3toe
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Winchester Ranger T is the old reliable and notorious Black Talon ammo without the black coating. It's wicked. Right on. I can never seem to find it though.
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Re: 45 acp
[Re: Wiley Coyote]
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10/11/19 03:59 PM
10/11/19 03:59 PM
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Winchester Ranger T is the old reliable and notorious Black Talon ammo without the black coating. It's wicked. These are proven and very hard to beat.
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Re: 45 acp
[Re: goodman_hunter]
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10/11/19 04:19 PM
10/11/19 04:19 PM
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I lucked up and got my uncle's ol colt m1991 a1 series 80. I haven't shot it yet. But I like it. I mit change the sights, but thats it.
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Re: 45 acp
[Re: goodman_hunter]
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10/11/19 06:37 PM
10/11/19 06:37 PM
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I’m a fan of Hornady Critical Defense.
Jesus... I hope you know Him personally like I do.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
Proud crossbow hunter!
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Re: 45 acp
[Re: goodman_hunter]
#2924533
10/11/19 08:47 PM
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CatHeadBiscuit
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I give grandad’s 1911 nothing but ball ammo. Loves it.
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Re: 45 acp
[Re: goodman_hunter]
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10/11/19 08:54 PM
10/11/19 08:54 PM
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BCLC
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That’s a cool ORM (old roll mark)1991 right there Goodman....I love the patina. Congrats on acquiring your uncles Colt!
We’re not dead. We just smell that way. Dayum. - AC870
Yessir! I’m always gonna shoot what makes me happy and I want everyone else to do the same! If you shoot one be proud of it and don’t worry what anyone else thinks. - SJ22
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Re: 45 acp
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10/11/19 09:51 PM
10/11/19 09:51 PM
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That’s a cool ORM (old roll mark)1991 right there Goodman....I love the patina. Congrats on acquiring your uncles Colt! Thank you, I was pretty young when he got it. It was his baby. I feel honored that he let me get it. The Browning hp was my dad's. So both of them have sentimental value to me. They were special to those 2 men because that's what they used in the military (not those exact guns). My uncle in us military and my dad in the British military.
Last edited by goodman_hunter; 10/11/19 09:51 PM.
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Re: 45 acp
[Re: goodman_hunter]
#2924611
10/11/19 09:55 PM
10/11/19 09:55 PM
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dave260rem!
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Not picking on you Kp but Speer gold dots are issued by Lapd&NYPD that's probably 50,000 officers not including federal branches and who knows how many small departments. I've loaded Speer GD's since 1999 and I've yet to separate one using standard normal pressure loads. Yes I "broke" a .357 outta a .35 Remington but that was planned. Sanow&Marshall Massad Ayoob John Farnum Clint Smith of Thunder Ranch Roy Huntingdon of American Handgunner have never written of GD "failure". Handguns aren't rifles which is why we tote them.
Only hits count.
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Re: 45 acp
[Re: goodman_hunter]
#2924632
10/11/19 10:08 PM
10/11/19 10:08 PM
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That’s a cool ORM (old roll mark)1991 right there Goodman....I love the patina. Congrats on acquiring your uncles Colt! Thank you, I was pretty young when he got it. It was his baby. I feel honored that he let me get it. The Browning hp was my dad's. So both of them have sentimental value to me. They were special to those 2 men because that's what they used in the military (not those exact guns). My uncle in us military and my dad in the British military. They do make a mighty fine pair.
We’re not dead. We just smell that way. Dayum. - AC870
Yessir! I’m always gonna shoot what makes me happy and I want everyone else to do the same! If you shoot one be proud of it and don’t worry what anyone else thinks. - SJ22
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Re: 45 acp
[Re: dave260rem!]
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10/11/19 10:26 PM
10/11/19 10:26 PM
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kpswihart
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Not picking on you Kp but Speer gold dots are issued by Lapd&NYPD that's probably 50,000 officers not including federal branches and who knows how many small departments. I've loaded Speer GD's since 1999 and I've yet to separate one using standard normal pressure loads. Yes I "broke" a .357 outta a .35 Remington but that was planned. Sanow&Marshall Massad Ayoob John Farnum Clint Smith of Thunder Ranch Roy Huntingdon of American Handgunner have never written of GD "failure". Handguns aren't rifles which is why we tote them. The failures weren't due to separation, but lack of adequate penetration. As I said, my sample size was very small, but large enough for me to make professional decisions for my department and personal decisions for me. We stopped carrying them after the second failure. I'm also familiar with the processes larger federal and municipal departments use for purchasing. Actual field performance is difficult to measure when listing requirements in Request for Proposal or Request for Quote documents and agreements used during the purchasing process. So, it doesn't surprise me that LA and NY use Gold Dots as they probably met the standards (bullet type, weight, and velocity requirements) listed in the RFP or RFQ. Deciding which ammo to trust is a personal decision, use what you're comfortable with.
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Re: 45 acp
[Re: goodman_hunter]
#2924647
10/11/19 10:38 PM
10/11/19 10:38 PM
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ALMODUX
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Anything. It’s a 45. Once they realize it’s a 45, bad guys just fall over. LOL
But seriously, even ball works defensively in a 45 ACP...maybe good hollow points are better, but anything 200+ grains and -45 wide, is pretty effective.
Also, no, it doesn’t penetrate well.... it’s a big, slow chunk of plated lead that’ll bounce off of lots of things.....hardwood stumps, doors, thick glass....seen it. Great for soft tissue. Not the best at getting through anything hard to get there or staying on a straight line if it does get through. Just pick a quality HP load that shoots good in your gun, and don’t sweat if it’s a gold dot or hydra shock or critical defense.
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Re: 45 acp
[Re: jb20]
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10/11/19 11:00 PM
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James
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I always alternate hornady critical defense and a heavy full metal jacket in my clips What's a clip? 🤭
How many people am i willing to sacrifice for freedom? Everyone. All of them...
Do not regret growing older, it's a privilege denied to many!
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Re: 45 acp
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10/11/19 11:01 PM
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I rarely carry my 45s but when i do it's Black Hills 230 HP or Hornady 230 XTP.
How many people am i willing to sacrifice for freedom? Everyone. All of them...
Do not regret growing older, it's a privilege denied to many!
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Re: 45 acp
[Re: goodman_hunter]
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10/11/19 11:06 PM
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That’s a cool ORM (old roll mark)1991 right there Goodman....I love the patina. Congrats on acquiring your uncles Colt! Thank you, I was pretty young when he got it. It was his baby. I feel honored that he let me get it. The Browning hp was my dad's. So both of them have sentimental value to me. They were special to those 2 men because that's what they used in the military (not those exact guns). My uncle in us military and my dad in the British military. Congrats! But he should've put a little oil on his baby from time to time 😀
How many people am i willing to sacrifice for freedom? Everyone. All of them...
Do not regret growing older, it's a privilege denied to many!
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Re: 45 acp
[Re: 3toe]
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10/11/19 11:16 PM
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Wiley Coyote
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Winchester Ranger T is the old reliable and notorious Black Talon ammo without the black coating. It's wicked. Right on. I can never seem to find it though. August 2006 it was $0.60 per round if you bought it by the case. Free shipping on that too. I have no idea what it cost now.
I firmly believe that a double gallows should be constructed on the East Lawn of The White House. Politicians who willfully and shamelessly violate their oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America should be swiftly tried and, upon conviction, publicly hanged at sunup the day after conviction. If multiple convicts are to be hanged they can choose with whom to share the gallows or names shall be drawn from the hangman's hat to be hanged 2 at a time.
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Re: 45 acp
[Re: Wiley Coyote]
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10/11/19 11:21 PM
10/11/19 11:21 PM
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Winchester Ranger T is the old reliable and notorious Black Talon ammo without the black coating. It's wicked. Right on. I can never seem to find it though. August 2006 it was $0.60 per round if you bought it by the case. Free shipping on that too. I have no idea what it cost now. Found some for around 77 cents a round online
How many people am i willing to sacrifice for freedom? Everyone. All of them...
Do not regret growing older, it's a privilege denied to many!
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Re: 45 acp
[Re: goodman_hunter]
#2924769
10/12/19 08:40 AM
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I like the HST and the Ranger T.
The last Ranger T i bought came from Ammo To Go.
Hydra Shock is good too.
Had a buddy that loaded his own Gold Dots and they performed well on pigs, FWIW
There are two types of gun enthusiasts ... Those who have been F#CKED by PTG and those who will be!
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Re: 45 acp
[Re: James]
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10/12/19 11:22 AM
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That’s a cool ORM (old roll mark)1991 right there Goodman....I love the patina. Congrats on acquiring your uncles Colt! Thank you, I was pretty young when he got it. It was his baby. I feel honored that he let me get it. The Browning hp was my dad's. So both of them have sentimental value to me. They were special to those 2 men because that's what they used in the military (not those exact guns). My uncle in us military and my dad in the British military. Congrats! But he should've put a little oil on his baby from time to time 😀 True that, it ain't as bad as the pic makes it look, the safety is rusty and I'll probably replace it. I hope tomorrow I can shoot it and an old colt Sporter 1 I got from him a few weeks ago.
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Re: 45 acp
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10/12/19 11:27 AM
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I like the HST and the Ranger T.
The last Ranger T i bought came from Ammo To Go.
Hydra Shock is good too.
Had a buddy that loaded his own Gold Dots and they performed well on pigs, FWIW All my guns are self defense guns first and foremost, but I plan to carry this one hog hunting. A few years ago while deer hunting the deer dogs had a sow bayed and I put about 7 9mm's into her before she ran off. I think this would be a fine gun to carry while hunting.
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Re: 45 acp
[Re: goodman_hunter]
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10/24/19 10:14 AM
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I got a chance to do some shooting with the 45 and must say I'm impressed. It shot some cheap remington hollow points i picked up at walmart as well as some aluminum cased ammo without a problem. I'm gonna pick up some new mags for it because some of the older mags didnt drop free.
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Re: 45 acp
[Re: goodman_hunter]
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10/24/19 10:39 AM
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No.1911's were designed for condition one or three. C1 chamber loaded hammer back thumb safety engaged. C3 chamber empty mag loaded. If condition one makes you uncomfortable get another design. Every speed shooting world championships been won with a 1911 or deritive. Nothing's faster first shot not sig glock ruger walther glock s&w cz or sccy keltec. Think I'm off my rocker? Look it up or try it at range from low ready safety on finger off trigger.
Only hits count.
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