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Re: Troy, AL Kimber Rifles
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#2906907
09/17/19 06:57 PM
09/17/19 06:57 PM
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Fldoghunter
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The stainless wood is on their website, but is only offered in 6.5cm: Mash hereAccording to my dealers Kimber rep, most of the rifles are now coming with the Troy roll mark. That must have been added in the past few days. It was just the Classic Select and Super America under the Traditional tab. Dang shame it’s only available in 6.5Gheymore. Thanks for the update from the dealers rep. The 2 gun shops I called didn’t even know Kimber had a plant in AL. They used to have a stainless classic. I bought one in 243 several years ago. I was too worried about scratching it up to enjoy it. My wife fell in love with it and hunts a lot more casually than I do. I gave it to her and bought myself a Montana in 308. I have no complaints about either.
May the sound of hounds never die!
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Re: Troy, AL Kimber Rifles
[Re: Fuzzy_Bunny]
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09/18/19 08:10 PM
09/18/19 08:10 PM
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Update, Famiy firearms just messaged me that the only rifle with the Troy roll mark is the limited edition 6.5 cm pictured above. Daaaaaang ..... thanks for update Fuzzy! (Even If it was bad news )
We’re not dead. We just smell that way. Dayum. - AC870
Yessir! I’m always gonna shoot what makes me happy and I want everyone else to do the same! If you shoot one be proud of it and don’t worry what anyone else thinks. - SJ22
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Re: Troy, AL Kimber Rifles
[Re: UncleHuck]
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09/19/19 05:30 AM
09/19/19 05:30 AM
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ALMODUX
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If the 6.5 creedless did a single thing for hunting that couldn't be done just as well with a .260 Rem or 7mm-08, I would buy one this afternoon.
Truth is, it don't, but you'll never hear one of the fanboys admit that. They all swear they're running around with .264 Win Mag killing power packed into that creedless case.
Factory loaded, match grade accurate, premium (high BC) bullet, hunting ammunition at most wal marts, academy, and local mom and pop. I ‘like’ the 7-08 better overall, and some others as well. The creedmoor doesn’t do anything I can’t do by loading for MANY others. It does do it over the counter, often cheaper, and generally with less recoil and blast, with more bullet than a 243 or 257/25-06. On game, it’s just a Swede, nothing more or less. Stuff dies, but it don’t usually die any more spectacularly than other stuff, and often less so. If the creed wasn’t so cheap and easy to max out over the counter, most wouldn’t have one, dang how it kills.
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Re: Troy, AL Kimber Rifles
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09/19/19 06:20 AM
09/19/19 06:20 AM
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UncleHuck
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I have the internet, with Midway Ammoseek, GrabaGun, and many others. I have not relied on local ammo supply for a decade or so, and I have zero concern regarding the cost per shot on a hunting rifle that I will shoot a few times a year. I have never noticed recoil while killing an animal.
Like the Swede, it does kill, but no better than any other medium bore cartridge.
And I can buy factory loaded, match grade accurate, premium ammo from a number of suppliers in a few dozen calibers. I'll pass on the creedless.
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Re: Troy, AL Kimber Rifles
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09/19/19 08:04 PM
09/19/19 08:04 PM
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ALMODUX
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If someone only shoots enough to check zero and miss a deer or two, not much matters, except what they refuse to shoot.
In the case of non-shooters? Recoil, flinches, high prices, bigger cases, harder to find, huge muzzle blasts, and what Bubba thinks is cool, are all far more important than recognizing efficienc and economy of design, or contemplating anything remotely considered ‘practice’, much less training.
Some folks are koolaide drinkers on the 6.5s, as a whole or the creed, for sure.
Some folks are so self conscious about someone knowing they might secretly own a creedmoor, that they’re looney, creedophobic.
Others of us don’t really care too much about head stamps, so long as bullees do what we need and how we need it done....and the easier/cheaper/more accurate/more efficient/lighter recoiling they are, the better.....cuz we put hundreds or thousands of rounds through our ‘hunting rifles’ every year, on targets AND game.
The creedmoor does EXACTLY what it was designed to do....maybe better than any commercial cartridge, ever. It expands into other uses fairly well, but it ain’t perfect. Nobody is trying to say it’s even close.....just that it’s worth shooting.
Last edited by ALMODUX; 09/19/19 08:21 PM.
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Re: Troy, AL Kimber Rifles
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09/19/19 09:31 PM
09/19/19 09:31 PM
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UncleHuck
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Personally, I am a fan of obscure calibers, and I probably shoot more rifle rounds than anyone that you know who doesn't compete.
I was turned against the 6.5 creed by a legion of snipery douchebags insisting it was the greatest cartridge ever, and would kill way out of proportion. I have even heard it described as the ideal elk cartridge inside 700 yards. Funny, I thought that title belonged to the .300 Win Mag.
Pure crap. I am a 6.5 fan, of the .260 Rem, 6.5 Swede, and .264 Win Mag variety. In several ammo company lineups, the creed is a step behind the .260, and doesn't come close to the .264
All the stuff I hear about the creed, I already do. If I was starting over, maybe, but it just doesn't interest me. Too little variety in bullet weight.
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Re: Troy, AL Kimber Rifles
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09/20/19 07:38 AM
09/20/19 07:38 AM
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ALMODUX
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I also have a lot of calibers on hand, and load for nearly all of them. I have several calibers that I don’t HAVE to load for, since everything intended of them is available cheaply an easily, over the net/counter. That’s why my Swedes and 260s took a hike when the creed came out, and I can devote time to ‘06 AI version stuff. The creed is available in more varieties of weight and load and bullet type, over the counter, than the 260/Swede combined. I get the hype. I don’t get why some are apparently so afraid of the creedmoor.... or why the unfounded claims about it, constantly?
Last edited by ALMODUX; 09/20/19 07:47 AM.
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Re: Troy, AL Kimber Rifles
[Re: ALMODUX]
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09/20/19 08:08 AM
09/20/19 08:08 AM
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I’m just glad there’s a good, major brand being made in AL now. Remington just seems intent on screwing up everything and everywhere it touches. Remington producing rifles in 6.5Creedmoor is quite funny.
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Re: Troy, AL Kimber Rifles
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09/20/19 08:11 AM
09/20/19 08:11 AM
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Fuzzy_Bunny
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I’m just glad there’s a good, major brand being made in AL now. Remington just seems intent on screwing up everything and everywhere it touches. Remington producing rifles in 6.5Creedmoor is quite funny. It is pretty funny that Winchester and everybody else chamber 7mm Rem mag too.
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Re: Troy, AL Kimber Rifles
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09/20/19 10:45 AM
09/20/19 10:45 AM
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dave260rem!
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And nobody will produce any of the Ruger calibers(.300/.338/.375) If Henry or Mossberg would produce the .308/.338 Marlin Express that would be nice.
Skinny is my EX.Alcohol was involved.
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Re: Troy, AL Kimber Rifles
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09/20/19 10:54 AM
09/20/19 10:54 AM
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Posts: 6,733 Selma
odocoileus
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And nobody will produce any of the Ruger calibers(.300/.338/.375) If Henry or Mossberg would produce the .308/.338 Marlin Express that would be nice. Just saw Henry came out with a side gate loader in 30-30, 38-55, and 35 Rem. Interesting.
Last edited by odocoileus; 09/20/19 10:55 AM.
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Re: Troy, AL Kimber Rifles
[Re: ALMODUX]
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09/20/19 12:12 PM
09/20/19 12:12 PM
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UncleHuck
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I also have a lot of calibers on hand, and load for nearly all of them. I have several calibers that I don’t HAVE to load for, since everything intended of them is available cheaply an easily, over the net/counter. That’s why my Swedes and 260s took a hike when the creed came out, and I can devote time to ‘06 AI version stuff. The creed is available in more varieties of weight and load and bullet type, over the counter, than the 260/Swede combined. I get the hype. I don’t get why some are apparently so afraid of the creedmoor.... or why the unfounded claims about it, constantly? Not afraid, just not interested. I'm glad you are happy with yours. Midway USA lists 67 different 6.5 creedmoor loads from 120 grain to 147 grain, and over half are target loads, which do not interest me at all. Also from Midway, .260 Rem is available in 21 loads from 120 grain to 142 grain, mostly hunting loads. 6.5 Swede is available in 21 loads from 100 grain up to 156 grain, virtually all hunting loads.
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