Just got a Town of Brantley Alabama speed safety program notice basically saying I have ignored their first notice (which I evidently never received). So now it says I owe $105. But it does not tell me what I did wrong (I assume speeding as it's from the speed safety program) and says the penalty is necessary to prevent potential civil proceedings.

Any aldeer experts got any pertinent information that may help me make an informed decision?

Have you been through there...

Brantley....home of Chuck Person. Or did they disown him?

I would give them a call and settle up as badly as I hate it for you.
Me and Treemydog just rode through that speedtrap of a town.
I warned him ahead of time that Brantley don't play that.

I have no clue but I suspect I passed near or through it taking the kids to the beach.

Not guilty by reason

If you came down US 331....you went right through Brantley....and yes you best slow down going through there. They don't play.

I'd ask about it and then ask for their evidence

Worked with a guy that spent some TDY time working in South Africa.
After he returned he got a bill for over 2 thousand$$ in Electronically
Generated speeding violations.
He said now I know what those flashing lights on poles on the side
of the road were doing.

You mean you didn't see the big sign for photo enforced speeding violation? Whoever set the speed limits in Brantley is evil incarnate! It goes down from 45-35 then down to 30 up to 35 and back to 25 by the school. I just go 30 once I cross the bridge to avoid the slow down speed up slow down. I remember some bonehead passed me because I was going 30 and he got stroked by the Brantley cops. People are just ignorant. Everyone knows Brantley is a speed trap so just slow down until you get out of town.

Just call them. They'll waive the first one.

You'll slow done now because they just installed parking curbs out into the highway.

He'll never be disowned because of all he's done for the school and city.

Guess I will call and see if they have a pic of me, since they never sent it originally.

Blame it on junk mail.

Brantley is the beach speeding trap capital of South Alabama. Been that way as far as I can remember.

They can’t do anything about it. I got one in South Dakota two years ago and researched it. Basically, it’s a civil issue and they can’t report it to the credit bureau without a contractual agreement to call back on. So, they just send out the tickets and make millions from the portion of people who decide to pay. Disclaimer: I’m making the assumption that Brantley’s is the same setup as the one I got. If you’re worried about it, send them a check for $5 with “all disputes settled, amount paid in full” on the memo. Take a picture of it, and when they cash it, that’s binding.

I thought everyone knew Brantley and Uniontown are speed traps. Brantley is the worst.

They sent me a picture of my wife’s suburban going 12 mph over their speed limit. I returned the letter with a shove it comment. 2 or 3 months later I received two letters, one from a company in Arizona and one from the town of Brantley. The one from Brantley I told them that if they could show a picture with the posted speed limit with my suburban in the background then I would consider allowing them to convince me of my guilt through due process. The letter from the company in Arizona asked who was driving, so I responded that from the crappy picture they sent, I could not tell who was driving but if I remember correctly I loant the vehicle to the mayor of Brantley so I wrote his name and address on the letter and told them to send the ticket to him and he would take care of it. That was May of 2018 and I have not heard another word from them and I absolutely refuse to give in like a pansy ass and pay it.

I like the way you think

Did they really?

My wife got one going through Brantley and her letter, addressed to me of course, had a picture of the vehicle, but no face. Since she admits to speeding, and I don't have the money to fight it, she just paid it. If I were a lawyer or had a ton of money, I would see to it that BS ended.

The truth is she needs to slow down anyways. She got one a couple of weeks before that in White Hall. It was an officer issues ticket. The bad thing about that is the officer lives right around the corner from us so I know he recognized the address. He doesn't know me by address so he didn't put it together of whose wife she is. I had no problem with that. I do have a problem with the next bit though. My son was in the passenger seat and the officer looked squarely at him. A week before that Lang and a couple of his buds went to the Cahaba river to catfish off of the bank. When they got down there, WH officer was stuck in the sand with his squeeze that wasn't his wife. The kids pulled him out and haven't said a word. I don't cheat on my wife, but if I did and found myself in a similar situation there would be three young men that had passes through White Hall at whatever speed they want. Heck I'd be comping them all the token at the casino they wanted too.

Bottom line, I hate camera tickets for reason I've explained before and I'm waiting for a lawyer to hit these things hard. I'll even testify as an expert witness as to the reasons they are unethical by good LE practices.

Apparently my driving privileges r revoked in Georgia...i know i paid one ticket a day late maybe it's something different I reckon I need to call em

Cant speak to GA, but the ones in Alabama cant have any affect on your DL or insurance.

Agree, but as long as they've been around, you'd think it would have already happened...if they're truly illegal.

Yep, all through the newly renovated downtown. It all started with the new hardware store. It's something special to see.

they are not illegal if the state legislature has given them permission to enforce criminal laws civilly. They are however, unethical from a LE standpoint. What is legal is not always moral and what is moral is not always illegal.

A lot of attorneys have beaten these things, it is just that none of them have taken them on as a class action. that is what will end them.

They made speeding a civil offense for the city so it is not criminal

No, it is still criminal, but they allow it to also be enforced civilly.

Sounds special..... Like those special kids on the short bus. That kinda special.

If you want to spend the time and money to hire a lawyer, you will almost always beat them. Very few cities are actually operating them legally. The problem is it wil cost you a lot more than the ticket cost to fight it.

Unless your father is a retiring bored attorney. Hum?

The wife got one going to the beach this summer! Just paid it!

That's the kind of special I'm talking about

Might want to look at this

https://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/do-i-have-to-pay-a-speeding-camera-ticket-issued-i-3090306.html

If you are stopped or checked in the future it might be more expensive and time consuming.

They are or have been challenged around the state. Phenix city is one place i believe, I don’t know how that turned out.

The tickets are legit bit they do not go on ur driving record cuz they can't prove it was u driving

What are the potential repercussions of not paying it? I couldn't find anything that they could do to you for the one I got in South Dakota. It was a civil issue, there were no ramifications on your driving record, no court date to miss, and they couldn't ding your credit. Why bother fighting it? Just don't pay it. Unless I'm missing something?

Some poor sucker passed me this afternoon right there in Brantley. He looked at me like I was stupid as he flew by. I’m sure they will mail him his prize . Cook county TN I think was on his tag.

Yeah like a free trip to jail on the spot. And a raped tow bill charge.

Same old story. They just want to take your money.

Opelika praised them when they put them in several years ago but all of a sudden they took them out. Almost over night. So somethings fishy about the whole thing because they were making a killing off if them.

Ha! Brantley has that capability? Every city is buying in to that money making scheme. Its unconstitutional.

Let me get this straight, some of you feel that you shouldn't have to pay the ticket for the violation that you are guilty of because an officer didnt hand deliver it to you at the time of the violation? If it is legal for the city to ticket you for the violation and you were actually speeding, then you are just being a whiny a##. Pay the ticket and move on. And as far as it being "ethical", is it ethical for an officer to give someone a pass because they did the officer a favor? For example, some kid who found the officer stuck in the sand while accompanied by someone other than his wife gets to disregard the speed limit because he pulled the officer out and didnt call the officers wife while the same officer writes you a ticket every time you go through his radar ten miles over the limit.

I don't know ^^^...what happened to due process and innocent until proven guilty? Anybody or anything can take a pic of a vehicle...don't necessarily mean you were speeding and definitely don't prove YOU were driving. You go ahead and pay that fee. I'll just avoid that crappy little town like i avoid dicks sporting goods and target.

You dont have to pay it. You can fight it just like any other ticket
. I aint saying pay it if you ain't guilty, what I am saying is why protest it if you ARE guilty. Just drive the speed limit or pay up if you get caught speeding. I will NEVER pay a ticket without fighting it if I ain't guilty and do not expect anyone else to, either. On the other hand, I never protested one where I was guilty and I have paid a bunch of them. Just man up if you are guilty, whether caught by officer or camera, pay the fine and move on.

Nope the cities are making very little compared to what the private company is making, unless the city installs and maintains them on their own and I don't think any of the cities are doing this. Plus, when they are declared illegal, the cities are going to be stuck refunding the money and when they look to the private company to refund the lion's share since they are the ones making the money, they are going to hear a big "whoops, we are bankrupt, sorry."

I spoke to the lady at the company who issues the ticket. She said you can name another driver if you respond to the certified letter you get in the mail. I never got a certified letter so I cant say Bham Fred at this point. I asked what happens if I dont pay it and she said it's a fine of $25 the first time you dont reply, 2nd time another fine and then if you have not replied they turn it into a collection agency.

Interesting, I cant imagine a collection agency making much off a $150 collection

Just logged in and saw the video and photos that is really cool technology that they can get such a clear image. The 2 people that were passing me at the time hopefully got tickets as well. I was only doing 46 in a 35 evidently, I figured I would have been 50+

They can’t turn it in to collection. I’m just about positive of that from the research I did.

Thank God you are alive now and not anytime in our previous history

Check the statute, I think you have to be going 12mph or over
*correction the statute says 10 over

I got one in Fairfield back in 2015. It irritated the crap outta me. It was raining. Id agree it was my vehicle but who knows who was driving because you couldnt see. I called the city hall of Fairfield as was directed to an office in Tucson Arizona (same as was on the citation) for any info. I Google and found that they were only legal in Montgomery and in Tuscaloosa in the State of Alabama (àt the time). I debated over it for a week and decided not to pay it. They sent me 3 additional Past Due notices but then they stopped and that was it. No collections or putting it on my credit report. I'm glad I didn't pay it.

What I got out of it was it's a quick and easy money maker for the city. The company that owns the camera handle everything and give the city a small cut out of what they receive. They are cashing in on people that get it and just pay it without questioning anything. IF it would have been an Alabama address I likely would have payed it.

I told you three times already, the law's on my side! I play cards with J.D. Shelnut, chief of PO-lice!