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Universal Background Checks?
#2873825
08/09/19 12:54 AM
08/09/19 12:54 AM
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Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 4,597 Elmore county
GKelly
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would I be considered a felon if I transferred/loaned a shotgun temporarily to a buddy to use during a dove shoot without first going thru an FFL? if that is legal then can I loan someone a gun for no specified amount of time and charge them a market value security deposit? I need to go to bed....
Last edited by GKelly; 08/09/19 12:54 AM.
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Re: Universal Background Checks?
[Re: MC21]
#2873828
08/09/19 01:11 AM
08/09/19 01:11 AM
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Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 4,597 Elmore county
GKelly
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No one on here would know. Because no one on here owns any guns it was more of a theoretical question I turned all mine in at the last MPD gun buy back
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Re: Universal Background Checks?
[Re: GKelly]
#2873875
08/09/19 07:26 AM
08/09/19 07:26 AM
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Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 21,783 USA
Remington270
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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would I be considered a felon if I transferred/loaned a shotgun temporarily to a buddy to use during a dove shoot without first going thru an FFL? if that is legal then can I loan someone a gun for no specified amount of time and charge them a market value security deposit? I need to go to bed.... Now? No. In the future? Probably.
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Re: Universal Background Checks?
[Re: GKelly]
#2873908
08/09/19 08:03 AM
08/09/19 08:03 AM
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Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 3,995 pensacola,fl
dagwood
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If they are not immediate family the answer is yes you are committing a felony.
jmlane
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Re: Universal Background Checks?
[Re: GKelly]
#2873912
08/09/19 08:15 AM
08/09/19 08:15 AM
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Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 21,445 HSV AL
jmudler
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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HSV AL
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Can you give someone ammo?
Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
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Re: Universal Background Checks?
[Re: dagwood]
#2873914
08/09/19 08:21 AM
08/09/19 08:21 AM
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Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 11,651 Longwood, FL
jlbuc10
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If they are not immediate family the answer is yes you are committing a felony. Wow I had no idea? Is this also true if I am with them also? For example 2 gobblers come in, and I shoot one. Then I hand the gun to my hunting partner and he shoots the second one with my gun.
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Re: Universal Background Checks?
[Re: GKelly]
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08/09/19 08:48 AM
08/09/19 08:48 AM
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Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 4,588 Coosa County, AL
Coosa1
SOA Professional
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SOA Professional
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it was more of a theoretical question I turned all mine in at the last MPD gun buy back
I lost all of mine in a boating accident
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Re: Universal Background Checks?
[Re: dagwood]
#2874190
08/09/19 01:18 PM
08/09/19 01:18 PM
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Posts: 7,202 Meridianville
DryFire
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If they are not immediate family the answer is yes you are committing a felony. Show me the law. Only if you knew the person you were loaning the weapon to was not legally allowed to have a gun in their possession, would you be breaking the law. It is no different than the private sale of a firearm between two parties.
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Re: Universal Background Checks?
[Re: DryFire]
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08/09/19 01:46 PM
08/09/19 01:46 PM
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Posts: 8,145 In front of my lathe
gundoc
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If they are not immediate family the answer is yes you are committing a felony. Show me the law. Only if you knew the person you were loaning the weapon to was not legally allowed to have a gun in their possession, would you be breaking the law. It is no different than the private sale of a firearm between two parties. You are correct, that is how it is now...I think he meant that as how it would be if/when a UBC law was enacted.
There are two types of gun enthusiasts ... Those who have been F#CKED by PTG and those who will be!
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Re: Universal Background Checks?
[Re: GKelly]
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08/09/19 01:51 PM
08/09/19 01:51 PM
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Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,363 Montgomery
WmHunter
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^^ what TexasNative said.
If you know or have reason to know that the potential loanee of your firearm is a convicted felon or has some misdemeanor that prohibits possession of a firearm then you should never loan them any firearm.
"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
" Chuck Sykes is a dictator control freak like Vladimir Putin " WmHunter
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Re: Universal Background Checks?
[Re: Frankie]
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08/09/19 02:41 PM
08/09/19 02:41 PM
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Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,363 Montgomery
WmHunter
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I know this as fact. You loan a gun to some one and kills some one you can be held liable for it in civil court . Not automatically. It would depend on the facts. And the facts would have to show that the gun loaner knew or had reason to believe the loanee was going to kill someone/use the gun to commit a crime. Like where BillyBob or Quandarious says " I am going to shoot my 'ol lady down, can I borrow your gun?" and Bubba or Rodriquez says "sure, here it is."
"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
" Chuck Sykes is a dictator control freak like Vladimir Putin " WmHunter
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Re: Universal Background Checks?
[Re: WmHunter]
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08/09/19 02:44 PM
08/09/19 02:44 PM
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Posts: 15,863 Elmore County
Frankie
Old Mossy Horns
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I know this as fact. You loan a gun to some one and kills some one you can be held liable for it in civil court . Not automatically. It would depend on the facts. And the facts would have to show that the gun loaner knew or had reason to believe the loanee was going to kill someone/use the gun to commit a crime. Like where BillyBob or Quandarious says " I am going to shoot my 'ol lady down, can I borrow your gun?" and Bubba or Rodriquez says "sure, here it is." I know a guy that lost 100000 buck that loaned a gun to a guy at 2am you hunt with . He killed a guy it and the gun owner lost a civil suit. It was my dumb ass brother in law that they killed
Last edited by Frankie; 08/09/19 02:48 PM.
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Re: Universal Background Checks?
[Re: Frankie]
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08/09/19 11:55 PM
08/09/19 11:55 PM
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Posts: 4,597 Elmore county
GKelly
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I know this as fact. You loan a gun to some one and kills some one you can be held liable for it in civil court . this is when you deny the accusation remain silent and ask for an attorney no one can prove you loaned a gun anymore than maybe he just stole it from under the bed. 90% of the time talking without council is the downfall of alot of people
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