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Re: Baiting Bill in Legislature
[Re: Skinny]
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02/15/12 09:33 PM
02/15/12 09:33 PM
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poorcountrypreacher
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I really wouldn't care too much about whether it passed or not if they hadn't included turkeys in it. All a fellow's work to improve turkey habitat can be rendered useless by neighbors with feeders, and it sure won't require much skill to kill one if you can set up 100 yds from the feeder.
I'm thinking they are gonna need to cut the length of turkey season and probably reduce the limit if this gets approved.
All the labor of man is for his mouth, and yet the appetite is not filled.
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Re: Baiting Bill in Legislature
[Re: truedouble]
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02/15/12 09:37 PM
02/15/12 09:37 PM
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2Dogs
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Be interesting to see who's been contributing to Ms. Givan and Mr. Boman lately. Both above and below the table. What does Ms. Givan know about protein needs of deer, food plots etc. I'm betting nothing.
This thing stinks. Like someone else posted this is bad for both those that are both for and against baiting. It's written for a small, narrow group. Average Joe club and even the average land owner that wants an aid to properly manage his herd can't use this foolishness! Hopefully this will not pass.
"Why do you ask"?
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Re: Baiting Bill in Legislature
[Re: burbank]
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02/15/12 10:33 PM
02/15/12 10:33 PM
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2Dogs
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Just crap. I can see the land line issue, the others are just plain stupid. Money grab, plain and simple. I might be wrong, but I don't see it as a $ grab for the State or they would charge more for the permit. I think it's for a specific group, and they told the bill sponsors what they wanted the fee to be and how to word the bill. The GWs could fill the court rooms up with baiters now if they wanted to. IMHO If the State wanted to generate $ all they'd have to say is you can use any feed you want, as many sites as you want, wide open baiting. Permit for each site about $50 each, Whoa Nellie!
Last edited by 2Dogs; 02/15/12 10:38 PM.
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Re: Baiting Bill in Legislature
[Re: trox28]
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02/15/12 11:05 PM
02/15/12 11:05 PM
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Luverne, AL
Skinny
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I got a good feeling this is pretty much a done deal though.Might as well get ready for it. Relax, its not a done deal. Its just another ploy by a local land owner trying to sell hunts who bribed his local legislature to even bring up the bill in the first place. The way the bill is written its pretty clear that is what is going on here.
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Re: Baiting Bill in Legislature
[Re: Skinny]
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02/16/12 07:57 AM
02/16/12 07:57 AM
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Trussville, Al
Jpipererp
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I promise you this. If it passes I will have a feeder on every stinkin point and draw of my land as long as the yardage applies. I can think of two spots that I could film a frickin tv show on if there were feeders. This is a good deal for us clear cut leasees. We don't get to plant fields on most clear cut properties. I will take it any way I can get it at first. Once it's in then we can lobby to "adjust" the law. This will also help me get our less fortunate hunters some better odds when we take them out.
Ignorant question here so please be gentle....
if it is passed, will this have an effect on the hog populations?
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Re: Baiting Bill in Legislature
[Re: jmj120]
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02/16/12 09:23 AM
02/16/12 09:23 AM
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Stupidest crap I've ever read. So how is a GW supposed to determine the material being fed is 15% protein. Idiots. You are not getting it, this bill is a bill proposed by a wealthy deer seller who sells deer hunts and who has obviously bribed some representatives to introduce the bill. There is no way that a regular deer hunter or even a middle-tier deer hunt seller can comply with what this bill proposes. Its obviously a blatant attempt by one or two guys to corner the market on Alabama Deer Hunts. I bet with a minimum of basic investigation it will be easy to figure who put this bill in front of these corrupt representatives.
Never Trust Government
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Re: Baiting Bill in Legislature
[Re: Jpipererp]
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02/16/12 09:39 AM
02/16/12 09:39 AM
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Northport, AL
BamaRich
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I promise you this. If it passes I will have a feeder on every stinkin point and draw of my land as long as the yardage applies. I can think of two spots that I could film a frickin tv show on if there were feeders. This is a good deal for us clear cut leasees. We don't get to plant fields on most clear cut properties. I will take it any way I can get it at first. Once it's in then we can lobby to "adjust" the law. This will also help me get our less fortunate hunters some better odds when we take them out.
Ignorant question here so please be gentle....
if it is passed, will this have an effect on the hog populations? The way it's written, you have to place the feeder within 200 yards of a one-acre food plot. Not sure how that's going to help you.
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Re: Baiting Bill in Legislature
[Re: trox28]
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02/16/12 09:45 AM
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BamaRich
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Just another stupid ass reason to ticket hunters.You can bait...you have to be 100 yards away from the bait..the bait can't be in your view...its gotta be 100 yards from a food plot...its gotta be 300 yards from the joining property..And if you get caught you can get a ticket between 3 and 500 bucks if your not obiding by the rules...very confusing...I'll stick to my clearcut.I got a good feeling this is pretty much a done deal though.Might as well get ready for it. Most clubs in Alabama are going to be affected by this legislation because on at least one of their borders, a landowner/leasee will be feeding. Clubs that say "we don't have to feed" may do well if they have enough bedding areas, if they have enough acorns, or if they have enough area. However, if something changes in regards to these things (i.e. no acorns one fall), it will have an affect upon the club's harvest that year. If this was legal in 2010, we'd likely not have seen many deer whatsoever on our place... we had no white oak acorns and food plots were destroyed by December 1.
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Re: Baiting Bill in Legislature
[Re: BamaRich]
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02/16/12 09:50 AM
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I don't think it's quite that clear Skinny... the drafting part of this piece of legislation was not done by those in the deer industry. Granted, what you're saying may factor into it, but this bill went through more channels... and many had input into its creation/writing. So who had the input? I would like to talk to them.
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Re: Baiting Bill in Legislature
[Re: Jpipererp]
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02/16/12 09:51 AM
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if it is passed, will this have an effect on the hog populations? Bunch of Hog Zillas. I bet the hog hunters are behind it, wanting deer hunters to feed out their hogs. 
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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