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There goes the live bait fishing #2852049
07/15/19 12:05 PM
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Just saw the new regulation in the guide for this year.


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Re: There goes the live bait fishing [Re: buzzard] #2852050
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What are you talking about? Fresh? Salt? Specific waters?


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Re: There goes the live bait fishing [Re: buzzard] #2852068
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Can you send a link or post a screenshot or something?

Re: There goes the live bait fishing [Re: buzzard] #2852069
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it's in the 2019-20 book. A friend just sent me a pic of the page showing the new regulation. page 58
http://www.eregulations.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/19ALAB-LR2.pdf

300 fine per bait fish is what i heard for the fine.

it reads:

A common practice for anglers is to capture
their bait before fishing for their preferred
sport fish. However today, with the new
threats that we now face with the introduction of many invasive aquatic nuisance
species, this practice must be controlled to
better protect Alabama’s valuable aquatic
and fisheries resources. As a result, a new
regulation has been adopted by the Alabama Division of Wildlife and Freshwater
Fisheries (WFF) to restrict the transport
of live wild-caught bait fish between the
public freshwater lakes, rivers, reservoirs
and drainage basins within Alabama.
This regulation only pertains to the transport of baitfish that are alive. Dead baitfish
that are being held on ice or preserved in some
fashion for transport to another location or
waterbody are not included in this regulation.

Last edited by buzzard; 07/15/19 12:25 PM.

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Re: There goes the live bait fishing [Re: buzzard] #2852079
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that is a load of chitt!


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Re: There goes the live bait fishing [Re: buzzard] #2852085
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catch me if you can


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Re: There goes the live bait fishing [Re: buzzard] #2852086
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while the right hand was passing baiting on the hunting side, the left hand was taking it away on the fishing end.


"Hell with them fellows, buzzard got to eat same as a worm"
Josey Wales

Re: There goes the live bait fishing [Re: buzzard] #2852091
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Does that mean I cant buy minnows at the store and haul them 1/2mile to the lake and fish with them? That sure sounds like what it means.

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I see. "Live wild caught".

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Originally Posted by jwalker77
Does that mean I cant buy minnows at the store and haul them 1/2mile to the lake and fish with them? That sure sounds like what it means.

Thats way I read it


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What a crock

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Black Salties.

Re: There goes the live bait fishing [Re: buzzard] #2852132
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Makes perfect sense to me... crazy


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Re: There goes the live bait fishing [Re: buzzard] #2852138
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You couldn't go to Wilson and catch shad below Wheeler Dam, and then transport them to fish at Bear Creek or Smith or Lay. Or catch something at Lay and transport it elsewhere.

"wild-caught bait" doesn't discriminate. If you caught 20 bluegills or sunfish on Guntersville for catfishing on Beadle Creek in Winston County -- and even if Beadle Creek has bluegills or sunfish -- by this wording, it's still illegal to transport.

Blueback herring got dumped into Smith by bucket biologists who thought it would be fine. They didn't know about or care about how it might impact the lake, tributaries or downstream. Happens often. Chit gets sideways after that and then people yell about how "this is hurting my ..." whatever they want to be hurt about. Crappie. Bass. Can't find shad. Yell and holler.

$300 per sounds fine to me. Hunters yell all the time about how deer poachers need to be put into prison. That's extreme but they don't care, don't know the difference in prison or jail, and want it to happen. $300 is extreme but it'll work.


Seems a bit out of left field, though. Who's moving enough live baitfish in the state to warrant this change and possible fine?


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Re: There goes the live bait fishing [Re: buzzard] #2852142
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I don’t really see a problem with this personally. I’m not gonna go throw my bait net at the Alabama river then try and transport them live all the way to lake Jordan, I would just catch them in the net at lake Jordan.... but that’s just me my situation is much different than others


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There is 2 different high fence. 1 small and one big! Mine was free range in the big pen and was not a breeder buck. Why does it have to be twisted around??
Re: There goes the live bait fishing [Re: buzzard] #2852155
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The biggest impact will be on the stripe fishermen. While most if not all waters have gizzard shad in them, that doesn’t mean you can catch them in a net in all of them. There are a handful of dam spillways where these can be caught and where prob 90% of the baits used come from.
Once again , as is usual with the state, the wording is crap. How will they know WHERE you caught the bait and if they catch you catching the bait, how will they know where you plan to fish with them?


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True, buzzard, about the striper guys.

As for the wording, it's clear as mud so as to be vague enough to be understood. Got it?


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I always buy minnows at the bait shop or catch them on the lake im fishing anyway so I dont see an issue nothing changes for 99% of us. how many people actually go to one body of water to catch bait then load up and drive to another body of water to fish? I dont believe ive ever met one person that does that. how can they tell the difference from bait store bought vs wild anyway or prove you even caught them in a different location unless you run off at the mouth and tell on yourself.

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Page 60. 58 is the Sandhill crane info


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Originally Posted by GKelly
I always buy minnows at the bait shop or catch them on the lake im fishing anyway so I dont see an issue nothing changes for 99% of us. how many people actually go to one body of water to catch bait then load up and drive to another body of water to fish? I dont believe ive ever met one person that does that. how can they tell the difference from bait store bought vs wild anyway or prove you even caught them in a different location unless you run off at the mouth and tell on yourself.


ive done it before


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