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Cov. Co. Sheriff & FFRF
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06/25/19 08:42 PM
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Sheriff Blake Turman got a cease and desist letter from the Freedom From Religion Foundation after posting Christian things on his PERSONAL Facebook page. https://www.wsfa.com/2019/06/25/cov...YebOlilv1j92Thls7VmYqDaPIsZEk-Q2bo2SW3VETo me it is no different than someone doing the same thing who is a cosmetologist, attorney, doctor or truck driver. He happens to be the Sheriff and he happens to be a Christian. If I did not appreciate his Christian related posts, then I would just not look at his page. Why is that so hard?
If you live to be a hundred, I want to live to be a hundred minus one day, so I never have to live without you.---Winnie the Pooh
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Re: Cov. Co. Sheriff & FFRF
[Re: TexasHuntress]
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06/25/19 08:49 PM
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He did. He said it nicer than you or I would have, but Blake is a solid guy, and definitely not one to back down just 'cause some dipsh!t says to.
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Re: Cov. Co. Sheriff & FFRF
[Re: TexasHuntress]
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06/25/19 09:12 PM
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Our Country needs more good men like him!
Thomas Jefferson. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Life is too short to only hunt and fish on weekends!
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Re: Cov. Co. Sheriff & FFRF
[Re: TexasHuntress]
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06/25/19 09:20 PM
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It would certainly not be the Christian way to respond but I would show them what they could cease and desist.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: Cov. Co. Sheriff & FFRF
[Re: btfl]
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06/26/19 09:13 AM
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I hope he beats this, but it is the Covington County Sheriff's Department page, not his personal page. I don't know if they have a leg to stand on or not. https://www.facebook.com/pg/Covingt...281662659175138/about/?ref=page_internalFrom his "About" section: About Covington County Alabama Sheriff Blake Turman’s personal page used to inform the public of important information, announcements, concerns, thoughts, and promote community unity through positive law enforcement and community service.The email address listed there is his personal email as well, not the CCSO's. There would be people who would have a problem with him posting things with Christian references if he was in another profession, too, but they would just not look at it likely and move on along. But, since he is someone of more prominence, some folks just want to cause a stink about it.
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If you live to be a hundred, I want to live to be a hundred minus one day, so I never have to live without you.---Winnie the Pooh
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Re: Cov. Co. Sheriff & FFRF
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06/26/19 09:33 AM
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I wonder if we could urge our state lawmakers to draft some kind of legal paperwork to keep that organization out of our state. Honestly what good do they serve?
I am a devout Christian and I agree with the principle of separation of Church and State because I realize that one day Christianity will not be the popular religion in this country (it seems that day is coming sooner than later). But this particular group is only for removing Christian symbols and bothering Christian people. They remind me of Planned Parenthood. Where is this separation of church and state in the constitution? Also, it's his personal page so his postings are protected under the 1st ammendment.
"Political debate: when charlatans come together to discuss their principles" - Bauvard
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Re: Cov. Co. Sheriff & FFRF
[Re: deerman24]
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06/26/19 09:34 AM
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bill
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what would happen if they read some comments on this site. Everyones views are welcome here. Hahahaha! Good one!
"Political debate: when charlatans come together to discuss their principles" - Bauvard
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Re: Cov. Co. Sheriff & FFRF
[Re: bill]
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06/26/19 09:42 AM
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I wonder if we could urge our state lawmakers to draft some kind of legal paperwork to keep that organization out of our state. Honestly what good do they serve?
I am a devout Christian and I agree with the principle of separation of Church and State because I realize that one day Christianity will not be the popular religion in this country (it seems that day is coming sooner than later). But this particular group is only for removing Christian symbols and bothering Christian people. They remind me of Planned Parenthood. Where is this separation of church and state in the constitution? Also, it's his personal page so his postings are protected under the 1st ammendment. It’s in there, you just have to look extra hard and take some things out of context lol.
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Re: Cov. Co. Sheriff & FFRF
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06/26/19 09:42 AM
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I am a devout Christian and I agree with the principle of separation of Church and State because I realize that one day Christianity will not be the popular religion in this country (it seems that day is coming sooner than later). I agree with your point. I consider myself a Christian (and a pretty conservative one, at that), but people look at me like I'm crazy when I tell them I don't think we should "put prayer back in [public] schools". If students want to get together with one another and have a Bible study or prayer time on their own, then that is fantastic. But I don't think public schools should be leading school-wide prayer. A lot of my fellow Christians will get up in arms about it, but what happens if that school principal or teacher leading prayer is muslim, or hindu, or buddhist, or [insert other religion here]? If you set a legal precedent allowing school-sanctioned Christian prayer, you may not like what you get. Religion should be left to the church and home. If you want your kids' education to include Christianity, then you should look into a private Christian school. But the public school system shouldn't be involved with it.
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Re: Cov. Co. Sheriff & FFRF
[Re: bill]
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06/26/19 09:50 AM
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I wonder if we could urge our state lawmakers to draft some kind of legal paperwork to keep that organization out of our state. Honestly what good do they serve?
I am a devout Christian and I agree with the principle of separation of Church and State because I realize that one day Christianity will not be the popular religion in this country (it seems that day is coming sooner than later). But this particular group is only for removing Christian symbols and bothering Christian people. They remind me of Planned Parenthood. Where is this separation of church and state in the constitution? Also, it's his personal page so his postings are protected under the 1st ammendment. I never said it was in the constitution, I said I agree with the principle. Abolishment of slavery wasn't in the constitution either but I agree with it also. The point is there will come a day, whether it be in my lifetime, my son's or his son's, that Christianity will be persecuted openly in the streets far worse than anything we've ever imagined. If we uphold that principle then Islam, or Buddhism or whatever the religion of choice then can never be forced on us.
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Re: Cov. Co. Sheriff & FFRF
[Re: GomerPyle]
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06/26/19 09:52 AM
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I am a devout Christian and I agree with the principle of separation of Church and State because I realize that one day Christianity will not be the popular religion in this country (it seems that day is coming sooner than later). I agree with your point. I consider myself a Christian (and a pretty conservative one, at that), but people look at me like I'm crazy when I tell them I don't think we should "put prayer back in [public] schools". If students want to get together with one another and have a Bible study or prayer time on their own, then that is fantastic. But I don't think public schools should be leading school-wide prayer. A lot of my fellow Christians will get up in arms about it, but what happens if that school principal or teacher leading prayer is muslim, or hindu, or buddhist, or [insert other religion here]? If you set a legal precedent allowing school-sanctioned Christian prayer, you may not like what you get. Religion should be left to the church and home. If you want your kids' education to include Christianity, then you should look into a private Christian school. But the public school system shouldn't be involved with it. This is exactly the point I'm making. Also as a devout Christian I consider myself to be extremely biblically accurate and I ensure I attend a church that teaches accurately to the Bible. There are so many these days that do not. Knowing what I know about the public school system and how they teach mathematics I for sure don't want them teaching apologetics, or Romans or any type of theology to my child.
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Re: Cov. Co. Sheriff & FFRF
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06/26/19 10:14 AM
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Religion should be left to the church and home.
I agree with your post until this statement. I have boys in my RAs and Sunday school class that never would have heard the word of God if left my religion at home and Church. Matthew 28:19-20 (NIV) 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”
Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
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Re: Cov. Co. Sheriff & FFRF
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06/26/19 10:24 AM
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I wonder if we could urge our state lawmakers to draft some kind of legal paperwork to keep that organization out of our state. Honestly what good do they serve?
I am a devout Christian and I agree with the principle of separation of Church and State because I realize that one day Christianity will not be the popular religion in this country (it seems that day is coming sooner than later). But this particular group is only for removing Christian symbols and bothering Christian people. They remind me of Planned Parenthood. Where is this separation of church and state in the constitution? Also, it's his personal page so his postings are protected under the 1st ammendment. I never said it was in the constitution, I said I agree with the principle. Abolishment of slavery wasn't in the constitution either but I agree with it also. The point is there will come a day, whether it be in my lifetime, my son's or his son's, that Christianity will be persecuted openly in the streets far worse than anything we've ever imagined. If we uphold that principle then Islam, or Buddhism or whatever the religion of choice then can never be forced on us. Actually, the abolishment of slavery is in the constitution. It's the 13th amendment. It's not hard to see why our country is where it is when even those who claim conservatism don't know the basics of our founding documents and the intentions of those who wrote them. Our founding fathers were against the establishment of a national religion but make no mistake, this country was founded upon Judeo-Christian principles. Do I think we should teach and promote Christianity in public school? No. Nor do I think we should be teaching humanistic and secular propaganda, but we do. The separation of church and state does not exist in the constitution and is just a tool used by the atheistic humanist to promote their values in schools and government while suppressing opposing views. It's based on some letters that Jefferson wrote that they used as a jumping off point for removing the principles the country was founded upon.
Last edited by bill; 06/26/19 10:31 AM.
"Political debate: when charlatans come together to discuss their principles" - Bauvard
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Re: Cov. Co. Sheriff & FFRF
[Re: bill]
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06/26/19 10:25 AM
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I wonder if we could urge our state lawmakers to draft some kind of legal paperwork to keep that organization out of our state. Honestly what good do they serve?
I am a devout Christian and I agree with the principle of separation of Church and State because I realize that one day Christianity will not be the popular religion in this country (it seems that day is coming sooner than later). But this particular group is only for removing Christian symbols and bothering Christian people. They remind me of Planned Parenthood. Where is this separation of church and state in the constitution? Also, it's his personal page so his postings are protected under the 1st ammendment. I never said it was in the constitution, I said I agree with the principle. Abolishment of slavery wasn't in the constitution either but I agree with it also. The point is there will come a day, whether it be in my lifetime, my son's or his son's, that Christianity will be persecuted openly in the streets far worse than anything we've ever imagined. If we uphold that principle then Islam, or Buddhism or whatever the religion of choice then can never be forced on us. Actually, the abolishment of slavery is in the constitution. It's the 13th amendment. It's not hard to see why our country is where it is when even those who claim conservatism don't know the basics of our founding documents and the intentions of those who wrote them. Our founding fathers were against the establishment of a national religion but make no mistake, this country was founded upon Judeo-Christian principles. Do I think we should teach and promote Christianity in public school? No. Nor do I think we should be teaching humanistic and secular propaganda, but we do. That's not in the original constitution, that's an amendment..... that was my point. Before you go trying to personally insult me why don't you try comprehending what I'm typing. An amendment to the constitution is not in it's original body.
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Re: Cov. Co. Sheriff & FFRF
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06/26/19 10:30 AM
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Religion should be left to the church and home.
I agree with your post until this statement. I have boys in my RAs and Sunday school class that never would have heard the word of God if left my religion at home and Church. Matthew 28:19-20 (NIV) 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.” So, would you be ok with your kids' muslim principal leading a school-wide prayer to Allah over the intercom, for example? Let's be honest here....we, as Christians, are NOT proponents of "prayer in schools"....we're proponents of "Christian prayer in schools". Legally, though, that won't happen. Legally, it's an all-or-nothing deal. If you set a precedent allowing a school-sanctioned prayer to Jesus/God, then you're also setting a precedent allowing school-sanctioned prayers to Allah, Buddha, Krishna or even Satan himself. You ok with all of that? I'm not.
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Re: Cov. Co. Sheriff & FFRF
[Re: TexasHuntress]
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06/26/19 10:37 AM
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bill
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That's not in the original constitution, that's an amendment..... that was my point. Before you go trying to personally insult me why don't you try comprehending what I'm typing. An amendment to the constitution is not in it's original body. [/quote]
Where is the separation of church and state ammendment? I wasn't insulting you. It was an observation and personal opinion. The ammendment process was part of our founding fathers intentions so that laws could be made and ammended through a constitutional process. You used the argument for separation of church and state by citing that slavery wasn't addressed in the constitution. It was amended to address it. Where is the ammendment addressing the separation of church and state?
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