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Alright pick Dave an Ar in suitable caliber...
#2831729
06/17/19 07:37 PM
06/17/19 07:37 PM
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dave260rem!
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....too 300 yards. Optics not an issue but which Caliber? 6.5 Grendel 6.5 prc .260(of course!) Even the Creedmoor(which was a shooting range before a position and then caliber!) Would consider a .25 or .338 Federal but I'd like under 8.5 lbs all up.Money$? Let's keep under 6-700(minus scope) Yes I'd settle on .308 if I had to...but the .243 just ain't for me.
Skinny is my EX.Alcohol was involved.
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Re: Alright pick Dave an Ar in suitable caliber...
[Re: dave260rem!]
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06/17/19 07:55 PM
06/17/19 07:55 PM
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Bull64
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.260 Rem But if you want to go cheap,Bear Creek has 5 Grendels for under $400...
Last edited by Bull64; 06/17/19 08:18 PM.
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Re: Alright pick Dave an Ar in suitable caliber...
[Re: dave260rem!]
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06/17/19 08:43 PM
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ALMODUX
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You’re gonna have trouble staying under 8.5 all up, and still under budget in anything on the AR10 platform....especially if it’s worth shooting. A Grendel or even 6.8 would do what you want, though neither is the best deer/hog choice at 300 and beyond, they’re as good as most things on stuff under 300. Yeah, past 300, the Grendel is flatter, but it’s still marginal on deer energy for most loads, at 300.....though both can be stretched a bit if you’re bent on ringing out some hand loads. The 6.8 still seems the easier one, in handier rifles, to me....and stuff always dies. It’s a little more efficient in a 16” and you can go under 7# easy/cheap. You can build sub-8.5 # creedmoors or 308-based stuff, it just gets expensive fast, for each ounce you try to save. JME.
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Re: Alright pick Dave an Ar in suitable caliber...
[Re: dave260rem!]
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06/17/19 08:44 PM
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marshmud991
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My Grendel and 6.8spc shoots fine at 300yds all day long. The creedmoor is outstanding and will stack em at 300 but it is way over 8.5lbs. As Bull64 said BCA has a complete 6.5 Grendel upper for like $175. Hard to beat that.
It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chews your a$$ all day long.
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Re: Alright pick Dave an Ar in suitable caliber...
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06/17/19 09:43 PM
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.224 Valkyrie $150 assembled upper only Assembled .224
Last edited by CatHeadBiscuit; 06/17/19 10:08 PM.
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Re: Alright pick Dave an Ar in suitable caliber...
[Re: CatHeadBiscuit]
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06/18/19 07:18 AM
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This is the only other caliber I thought about. Something about a 90gr bullet in 22 caliber sparked my attention. That’s a heck of a deal but I would have to do something with that short hand guard.
It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chews your a$$ all day long.
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Re: Alright pick Dave an Ar in suitable caliber...
[Re: Out back]
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06/18/19 07:00 PM
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Not a thing!!! He may one of them that thinks a 223/556 can’t kill a deer. Just kidding.
Last edited by marshmud991; 06/18/19 07:01 PM.
It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chews your a$$ all day long.
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Re: Alright pick Dave an Ar in suitable caliber...
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06/18/19 07:05 PM
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Not a thing!!! He may one of them that thinks a 223/556 can’t kill a deer. Just kidding. They just wound deer Also JK 😀
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Re: Alright pick Dave an Ar in suitable caliber...
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06/18/19 07:13 PM
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Wish they made An Ar10 chambered in 6.5PRC You could get a custom barrel but the magazine/mag well would be the issue to overcome.
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Re: Alright pick Dave an Ar in suitable caliber...
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06/18/19 07:59 PM
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Looking at .223 Wyldes....and Col.Coopers scout concept.
Skinny is my EX.Alcohol was involved.
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Re: Alright pick Dave an Ar in suitable caliber...
[Re: Out back]
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06/18/19 08:19 PM
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Dixiepatriot
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I ask myself that every time I get the itch get another AR. I do like the Wylde.
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Re: Alright pick Dave an Ar in suitable caliber...
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06/18/19 09:01 PM
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JMO, but the combination of velocity and frontal area you get with the 6.8 seems to kill faster on most stuff I’ve shot than a slightly slower 6.5, slower 30, or fast 223s....though they have all worked in the right circumstances, it just seems in a short, handy AR that the 6.8 is more my ‘go to’ than a Grendel. I haven’t played with the Valkyrie, but it’s not going to compare as well in a short, light, handy gun. I’d take a 7.62x39 (and most anything else, including a 223) over a blackout. Again. Just my experiences....and others’ will be different.
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Re: Alright pick Dave an Ar in suitable caliber...
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06/18/19 09:20 PM
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marshmud991
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JMO, but the combination of velocity and frontal area you get with the 6.8 seems to kill faster on most stuff I’ve shot than a slightly slower 6.5, slower 30, or fast 223s....though they have all worked in the right circumstances, it just seems in a short, handy AR that the 6.8 is more my ‘go to’ than a Grendel. I haven’t played with the Valkyrie, but it’s not going to compare as well in a short, light, handy gun. I’d take a 7.62x39 (and most anything else, including a 223) over a blackout. Again. Just my experiences....and others’ will be different. My 7.62x39 has become my go to gun. It won’t reach out as far as my 6.8, 6.5 Grendel or my 223 but that joker will flat hit HARD!!! It is also the most accurate shooting AR I have. That think will almost hit same impact spot on the steel at 100yds. It’s hell on some hogs too.
It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chews your a$$ all day long.
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Re: Alright pick Dave an Ar in suitable caliber...
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06/18/19 11:08 PM
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Bull64
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JMO, but the combination of velocity and frontal area you get with the 6.8 seems to kill faster on most stuff I’ve shot than a slightly slower 6.5, slower 30, or fast 223s....though they have all worked in the right circumstances, it just seems in a short, handy AR that the 6.8 is more my ‘go to’ than a Grendel. I haven’t played with the Valkyrie, but it’s not going to compare as well in a short, light, handy gun. I’d take a 7.62x39 (and most anything else, including a 223) over a blackout. Again. Just my experiences....and others’ will be different. My 7.62x39 has become my go to gun. It won’t reach out as far as my 6.8, 6.5 Grendel or my 223 but that joker will flat hit HARD!!! It is also the most accurate shooting AR I have. That think will almost hit same impact spot on the steel at 100yds. It’s hell on some hogs too. I'm with marsh.Get you a 7.62x39....
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Re: Alright pick Dave an Ar in suitable caliber...
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06/19/19 06:35 AM
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deadeye48
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I have a 6.8 that I'll let go of if youre interested
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