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Re: Sako 85 Stainless Hunter in 243
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#2828403
06/12/19 04:09 PM
06/12/19 04:09 PM
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Fldoghunter
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If it shoots anything like the Sako I had. Just pick the load you want and it will shoot it well.
May the sound of hounds never die!
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Re: Sako 85 Stainless Hunter in 243
[Re: BPI]
#2828435
06/12/19 04:57 PM
06/12/19 04:57 PM
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Posts: 9,166 B'ham
Goatkiller
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Objective size only matters in low light and there isn't a lot of difference in 42mm vs 50mm. In low light you will just have to turn the magnification down 2x to get the same exit pupil. Whether that matters or not is situational but has little to do with the optical quality of the scope.
As for the rifle I would sell it. I don't like .243. Trailed too many deer shot with one. Bad shot agle or something?... maybe. Maybe likely. If we could all shoot every deer at 20 yards broadside there would likely never be an issue. It just don't have the horsepower. It's a 4 cylinder. No turbo. Good gas mileage. Not much of a family car.
Best caliber for a varmint rifle made IMO though.
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Re: Sako 85 Stainless Hunter in 243
[Re: BPI]
#2828612
06/12/19 08:54 PM
06/12/19 08:54 PM
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Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 6,713 Baldwin County
mark
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Congrats! I've owned lots of rifles but have only lusted after a Sako.
Sig Sauer, to hell and back reliable.
Whatever suits you just tickles me plum to death.
Can I refill your eggnog for you? Get you something to eat? Drive you out to the middle of nowhere and leave you for dead?
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Re: Sako 85 Stainless Hunter in 243
[Re: Goatkiller]
#2828823
06/13/19 07:41 AM
06/13/19 07:41 AM
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Posts: 9,585
BPI
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Objective size only matters in low light and there isn't a lot of difference in 42mm vs 50mm. In low light you will just have to turn the magnification down 2x to get the same exit pupil. Whether that matters or not is situational but has little to do with the optical quality of the scope.
As for the rifle I would sell it. I don't like .243. Trailed too many deer shot with one. Bad shot agle or something?... maybe. Maybe likely. If we could all shoot every deer at 20 yards broadside there would likely never be an issue. It just don't have the horsepower. It's a 4 cylinder. No turbo. Good gas mileage. Not much of a family car.
Best caliber for a varmint rifle made IMO though. I think I'll keep the rifle. Probably get some 95 grain federal fusions and those 85 grain Barne's and see how they group. If a deer that's shot with a bonded or solid copper bullet runs, then it's not the fault of the round..
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Re: Sako 85 Stainless Hunter in 243
[Re: BPI]
#2828849
06/13/19 08:25 AM
06/13/19 08:25 AM
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Posts: 5,914 Pine Hill, Al
Todd1700
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As for the rifle I would sell it. I don't like .243. Trailed too many deer shot with one. If you can shoot worth a s### and you stay away from too light or fragile type bullets like ballistic tips a 243 will consistently kill any deer in Alabama. I killed quite a few with a 243 and a 100 grain corlokt in my younger days. Never noticed that they ran any further on average than they do now with a 25-06, 7mm-08, 35 rem, or 45-70.
The best index to a person’s character is (a) how he treats people who can’t do him any good, and (b) how he treats people who can’t fight back. - Abigail van Buren
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Re: Sako 85 Stainless Hunter in 243
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06/16/19 06:46 PM
06/16/19 06:46 PM
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Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 181 Florence, AL
BearVenue
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3 point
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I have 2 sons that use the 243. My oldest has claimed my dad’s old 243 when he was 9 and he’s now 21 and won’t shoot anything else. We’ve never lost a deer in 11 years using this caliber. We’ve used 2 different loads with the best success on deer being the 90 grain Swift Scirocco and the 100 grain Nosler Partition (this being our favorite). Stay away from the Ballistic tips and the Hornady SSTs!
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Re: Sako 85 Stainless Hunter in 243
[Re: BearVenue]
#2831037
06/16/19 08:55 PM
06/16/19 08:55 PM
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Joined: May 2012
Posts: 8,670 NW Alabama
R_H_Clark
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I have 2 sons that use the 243. My oldest has claimed my dad’s old 243 when he was 9 and he’s now 21 and won’t shoot anything else. We’ve never lost a deer in 11 years using this caliber. We’ve used 2 different loads with the best success on deer being the 90 grain Swift Scirocco and the 100 grain Nosler Partition (this being our favorite). Stay away from the Ballistic tips and the Hornady SSTs! Exactly. You just don't want rapidly expanding bullets in this caliber at this weight when shooting short range. A Barnes at short range would go end to end through about any deer more often than not ,I would think..
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Re: Sako 85 Stainless Hunter in 243
[Re: BPI]
#2831397
06/17/19 11:16 AM
06/17/19 11:16 AM
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Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 9,166 B'ham
Goatkiller
14 point
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14 point
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Great round for a 9 year old. Not sure why a grown man would shoot it on purpose.
There is no good argument as to why a .243 is better than _____. That's anything larger with tolerable recoil within ALDeer standards. 6.5 Creed, 7-08, etc.
NONE.
Even .25-06 will crest the hill in terms of killing power while not shooting a much larger bullet maybe 10 more grains. Recoil pretty mild.
Start getting into .308 or larger and of course people's shoulders start getting blown off round here so I'm not even going there.
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Re: Sako 85 Stainless Hunter in 243
[Re: Goatkiller]
#2831443
06/17/19 12:24 PM
06/17/19 12:24 PM
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Joined: May 2012
Posts: 8,670 NW Alabama
R_H_Clark
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Great round for a 9 year old. Not sure why a grown man would shoot it on purpose.
There is no good argument as to why a .243 is better than _____. That's anything larger with tolerable recoil within ALDeer standards. 6.5 Creed, 7-08, etc.
NONE.
Even .25-06 will crest the hill in terms of killing power while not shooting a much larger bullet maybe 10 more grains. Recoil pretty mild.
Start getting into .308 or larger and of course people's shoulders start getting blown off round here so I'm not even going there.
That's like arguing that a car that will run 200 mph is more powerful than one that will run 120. It don't matter one hoot if I don't drive over 65, and I'll burn less powder and have less recoil, I mean burn less gas and have a more comfortable ride,with the less powerful car.
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Re: Sako 85 Stainless Hunter in 243
[Re: R_H_Clark]
#2831461
06/17/19 12:53 PM
06/17/19 12:53 PM
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Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 9,166 B'ham
Goatkiller
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14 point
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Great round for a 9 year old. Not sure why a grown man would shoot it on purpose.
There is no good argument as to why a .243 is better than _____. That's anything larger with tolerable recoil within ALDeer standards. 6.5 Creed, 7-08, etc.
NONE.
Even .25-06 will crest the hill in terms of killing power while not shooting a much larger bullet maybe 10 more grains. Recoil pretty mild.
Start getting into .308 or larger and of course people's shoulders start getting blown off round here so I'm not even going there.
That's like arguing that a car that will run 200 mph is more powerful than one that will run 120. It don't matter one hoot if I don't drive over 65, and I'll burn less powder and have less recoil, I mean burn less gas and have a more comfortable ride,with the less powerful car. Not really, the comparison at this level is like arguing you can ride a moped instead or drive a car to Orange Beach to eat. You can get there on a moped I'm just not sure why anyone would want to drive one that far. You can kill a deer with a .22lr so, this isn't a "can't" argument. .243 will certainly kill a deer. It's a question of why would you pick that? No good reason. Unless you are a 9 year old.
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Re: Sako 85 Stainless Hunter in 243
[Re: BPI]
#2831490
06/17/19 01:34 PM
06/17/19 01:34 PM
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Posts: 4,133 GA
UncleHuck
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Because it has plenty of energy for a pine goat, and soft recoil. I've been married for 31 years. As I am not allowed variety in my women, I will find it numerous interesting calibers. I don't hunt with it often, but a .243 will drop them quick if you do your part. My chosen ammo has 2139 ft/lbs of energy at the muzzle, and still has over 1200 ft/lbs at 300 yards. We hear all the time how a 6.5 creed is a 1000 yard deer rifle (I don't believe it, BTW), and the .243 has more energy at 400 yards than some creed loads at 500. Is it an ideal round for elk? No, but that ain't the question here. No reason for a grown man to step away from a rifle that he likes just because it's a .243.
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Re: Sako 85 Stainless Hunter in 243
[Re: Goatkiller]
#2831965
06/18/19 06:29 AM
06/18/19 06:29 AM
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Joined: May 2012
Posts: 8,670 NW Alabama
R_H_Clark
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Great round for a 9 year old. Not sure why a grown man would shoot it on purpose.
There is no good argument as to why a .243 is better than _____. That's anything larger with tolerable recoil within ALDeer standards. 6.5 Creed, 7-08, etc.
NONE.
Even .25-06 will crest the hill in terms of killing power while not shooting a much larger bullet maybe 10 more grains. Recoil pretty mild.
Start getting into .308 or larger and of course people's shoulders start getting blown off round here so I'm not even going there.
That's like arguing that a car that will run 200 mph is more powerful than one that will run 120. It don't matter one hoot if I don't drive over 65, and I'll burn less powder and have less recoil, I mean burn less gas and have a more comfortable ride,with the less powerful car. Not really, the comparison at this level is like arguing you can ride a moped instead or drive a car to Orange Beach to eat. You can get there on a moped I'm just not sure why anyone would want to drive one that far. You can kill a deer with a .22lr so, this isn't a "can't" argument. .243 will certainly kill a deer. It's a question of why would you pick that? No good reason. Unless you are a 9 year old. I take it you don't reload or understand much about bullet BC or there would be reasons.
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Re: Sako 85 Stainless Hunter in 243
[Re: BPI]
#2832005
06/18/19 07:44 AM
06/18/19 07:44 AM
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Posts: 5,914 Pine Hill, Al
Todd1700
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Great round for a 9 year old. Not sure why a grown man would shoot it on purpose. Oh I don't know. Maybe because they aren't one of these magnumitis goobers that buy a 300 win mag to take 40 yard shots at 150 pound Alabama deer. Seen plenty of them. Always bragging about how little their whiz bang super mag drops at 600 yards when the sad truth is that they couldn't hit a tanker truck at that distance. I'd way rather take a guest hunting on our land that showed up with a 243 they could shoot accurately than some yahoo that thinks the cartridge they use to hunt deer is a direct reflection of their pecker size. LOL!
Last edited by Todd1700; 06/18/19 07:45 AM.
The best index to a person’s character is (a) how he treats people who can’t do him any good, and (b) how he treats people who can’t fight back. - Abigail van Buren
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