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Re: No Baiting Clubs?
[Re: mman]
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06/04/19 09:27 PM
06/04/19 09:27 PM
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Gulfcrest
bigt
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Gulfcrest
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Our club will allow baiting. Most seem to be in favor.
Baiting only leads to nocturnal behavior, imho, when feed is available through the night. You have to train your deer to eat during daylight hours and they will move more during the day. I'm not talking about does and young buck only, but also mature deer. How do you keep the deer out of the food plots so they don’t have supplemental food available at night ?
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Re: No Baiting Clubs?
[Re: bigt]
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06/05/19 06:05 AM
06/05/19 06:05 AM
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Lincoln, Alabama
blumsden
12 point
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12 point
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Posts: 5,651
Lincoln, Alabama
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Our club will allow baiting. Most seem to be in favor.
Baiting only leads to nocturnal behavior, imho, when feed is available through the night. You have to train your deer to eat during daylight hours and they will move more during the day. I'm not talking about does and young buck only, but also mature deer. How do you keep the deer out of the food plots so they don’t have supplemental food available at night ? This^^^. It's already been said a thousand times. Pressure is what makes deer nocturnal, not a damn food source.
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Re: No Baiting Clubs?
[Re: Remington270]
#2822374
06/05/19 06:54 AM
06/05/19 06:54 AM
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Posts: 8,571
Grays Creek, NC
bigcountry692001
14 point
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14 point
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 8,571
Grays Creek, NC
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I have struggled with how to approach this new law at our club. But after much thought, I have decided that all members will be required to purchase a permit that will allow them to hunt over bait and any guest that hunts at club will also be required to have a permit. If they don't want to purchase and show me proof of the permit, then they will simply need to find another club to hunt. I don't have the time or desire to be checking on every hunter to make sure they are not hunting over a bait pile if they don't have the required permit. I don't like the law and wish it would have never passed but it did so this is how I am handling it our club and I think all of our members will be in agreement. We will still plant our 30 acres of food plots as well. Should be an interesting year to say the least. Muzzie, why should you have to worry about your fellow hunters having a bait permit? That's on them. They will have to pay the ticket, not the club. Avoidance of drama.. I think he has a solid plan. As the club president he only has two options allow members to bait or not.
"You cant manage a deer herd with acorns."
-Dr. Craig Harper
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Re: No Baiting Clubs?
[Re: bigt]
#2822508
06/05/19 10:20 AM
06/05/19 10:20 AM
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Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 21,783
USA
Remington270
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 21,783
USA
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Our club will allow baiting. Most seem to be in favor.
Baiting only leads to nocturnal behavior, imho, when feed is available through the night. You have to train your deer to eat during daylight hours and they will move more during the day. I'm not talking about does and young buck only, but also mature deer. How do you keep the deer out of the food plots so they don’t have supplemental food available at night ?  Good point.
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Re: No Baiting Clubs?
[Re: Remington270]
#2822514
06/05/19 10:29 AM
06/05/19 10:29 AM
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mman
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Posts: 1,361
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Our club will allow baiting. Most seem to be in favor.
Baiting only leads to nocturnal behavior, imho, when feed is available through the night. You have to train your deer to eat during daylight hours and they will move more during the day. I'm not talking about does and young buck only, but also mature deer. How do you keep the deer out of the food plots so they don’t have supplemental food available at night ? Good point. That's the problem with food plots, they feed at night. Food plots are for nutrition, which is good for the deer, but unless they are unmolested during their trips there, they will feed mainly during the night. Feeding done right can make them move more during the day. If you're smart enough, you can figure it out.
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Re: No Baiting Clubs?
[Re: longshot]
#2822689
06/05/19 02:15 PM
06/05/19 02:15 PM
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Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,363
Montgomery
WmHunter
14 point
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14 point
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Posts: 8,363
Montgomery
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Gonna be chaos, drama and arguments all over every hunting club in the entire State.
And conflict with neighbors.
"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
" Chuck Sykes is a dictator control freak like Vladimir Putin " WmHunter
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Re: No Baiting Clubs?
[Re: WmHunter]
#2822695
06/05/19 02:18 PM
06/05/19 02:18 PM
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Posts: 10,595
Central, Al
Bustinbeards
Booner
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Booner
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 10,595
Central, Al
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Gonna be chaos, drama and arguments all over every hunting club in the entire State.
And conflict with neighbors.
So nothing has really changed.
Originally Posted By: Wiley Coyote
Well, the way I see it is there's just too many assholes
On a good day there's a bunch of assholes in here. On a bad day there's too many assholes in here.
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Re: No Baiting Clubs?
[Re: longshot]
#2822696
06/05/19 02:19 PM
06/05/19 02:19 PM
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Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,363
Montgomery
WmHunter
14 point
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14 point
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Posts: 8,363
Montgomery
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^^^ LOL
So it will just be a lot worse.
"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
" Chuck Sykes is a dictator control freak like Vladimir Putin " WmHunter
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Re: No Baiting Clubs?
[Re: blumsden]
#2823550
06/06/19 01:32 PM
06/06/19 01:32 PM
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Joined: May 2002
Posts: 8,030
Central Alabama
muzziehead
14 point
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14 point
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 8,030
Central Alabama
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I have struggled with how to approach this new law at our club. But after much thought, I have decided that all members will be required to purchase a permit that will allow them to hunt over bait and any guest that hunts at club will also be required to have a permit. If they don't want to purchase and show me proof of the permit, then they will simply need to find another club to hunt. I don't have the time or desire to be checking on every hunter to make sure they are not hunting over a bait pile if they don't have the required permit. I don't like the law and wish it would have never passed but it did so this is how I am handling it our club and I think all of our members will be in agreement. We will still plant our 30 acres of food plots as well. Should be an interesting year to say the least. Muzzie, why should you have to worry about your fellow hunters having a bait permit? That's on them. They will have to pay the ticket, not the club. Because I run the club and the local game wardens know that we do not break any game laws and I plan to keep it that way. It just simplifies things for me and takes out any gray area that may be in the mind of our members.
"Don't cling to Mistake, just because you spent a lot of time making it."
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Re: No Baiting Clubs?
[Re: WmHunter]
#2823984
06/06/19 09:56 PM
06/06/19 09:56 PM
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Posts: 4,168
Florence, Al
AlabamaSwamper
10 point
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10 point
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 4,168
Florence, Al
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Gonna be chaos, drama and arguments all over every hunting club in the entire State.
And conflict with neighbors.
This fall and winter here and on Facebook Alabama hunting pages is going to be epic and entertaining. I can’t wait.
BTR Scorer in NW Alabama
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Re: No Baiting Clubs?
[Re: AlabamaSwamper]
#2824125
06/07/19 07:09 AM
06/07/19 07:09 AM
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Posts: 8,571
Grays Creek, NC
bigcountry692001
14 point
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14 point
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 8,571
Grays Creek, NC
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Gonna be chaos, drama and arguments all over every hunting club in the entire State.
And conflict with neighbors.
This fall and winter here and on Facebook Alabama hunting pages is going to be epic and entertaining. I can’t wait. lol.. my thoughts exactly
"You cant manage a deer herd with acorns."
-Dr. Craig Harper
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Re: No Baiting Clubs?
[Re: mman]
#2824452
06/07/19 01:12 PM
06/07/19 01:12 PM
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Posts: 4,597
Elmore county
GKelly
10 point
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10 point
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Posts: 4,597
Elmore county
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Our club will allow baiting. Most seem to be in favor.
Baiting only leads to nocturnal behavior, imho, when feed is available through the night. You have to train your deer to eat during daylight hours and they will move more during the day. I'm not talking about does and young buck only, but also mature deer. does the natural forage just up and leave when the sun sets? I dont think its the corn that make them nocturnal its Bubba stomping thru the woods 2 and 3 times a week to dump a 50lb sack out. Im gonna be using a 55 gallon drum i rigged up with timer and a 2x4 bolted to one side so i can just strap it to a tree like a ladder stand it holds close to 5 bags but i usually set it to keep corn on the ground 24 hours a day deer will leave a broadcaster in favor of a corn pile if they have to pick thru the leaves too much.
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Re: No Baiting Clubs?
[Re: blumsden]
#2824466
06/07/19 01:27 PM
06/07/19 01:27 PM
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Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 34,450
Boxes Cove
2Dogs
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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Posts: 34,450
Boxes Cove
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Our club will allow baiting. Most seem to be in favor.
Baiting only leads to nocturnal behavior, imho, when feed is available through the night. You have to train your deer to eat during daylight hours and they will move more during the day. I'm not talking about does and young buck only, but also mature deer. How do you keep the deer out of the food plots so they don’t have supplemental food available at night ? This^^^. It's already been said a thousand times. Pressure is what makes deer nocturnal, not a damn food source. Mmm Hmmm
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: No Baiting Clubs?
[Re: WmHunter]
#2824582
06/07/19 04:19 PM
06/07/19 04:19 PM
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Posts: 4,148
Ramer
ronfromramer
10 point
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10 point
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 4,148
Ramer
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Gonna be chaos, drama and arguments all over every hunting club in the entire State.
And conflict with neighbors.
I don't really anticipate it to cause us problems, we've never fed deer on our leases during the season but just about every deer killed had corn in its gut. The same is true on my personal property so someone has been feeding around us. I plan on having club feeders and everyone getting a permit. Nobody has objected to it. We'll put feeders in designated locations and keep feed in them. Time will tell. We've had the same members for several years and have had no problems. You cause problems, you find another place to hunt. Ol Ron don't put up with no foolishness
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Re: No Baiting Clubs?
[Re: longshot]
#2824601
06/07/19 04:47 PM
06/07/19 04:47 PM
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Posts: 20,017
PDL, Fl
timbercruiser
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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Posts: 20,017
PDL, Fl
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I have hunted a lot of times (Florida) where you would have either corn on the ground or in a trough. Most of the time a deer will come in, nibble some grass, go to the corn, get a couple of mouth fulls and go back to the grass. They will not stand there and fill up on corn. By the way, a deer will walk across clover, grass, corn and about anything else to get to peanuts.
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Re: No Baiting Clubs?
[Re: ronfromramer]
#2824687
06/07/19 06:36 PM
06/07/19 06:36 PM
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Posts: 8,363
Montgomery
WmHunter
14 point
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14 point
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,363
Montgomery
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Gonna be chaos, drama and arguments all over every hunting club in the entire State.
And conflict with neighbors.
I don't really anticipate it to cause us problems, we've never fed deer on our leases during the season but just about every deer killed had corn in its gut. The same is true on my personal property so someone has been feeding around us. I plan on having club feeders and everyone getting a permit. Nobody has objected to it. We'll put feeders in designated locations and keep feed in them. Time will tell. We've had the same members for several years and have had no problems. You cause problems, you find another place to hunt. Ol Ron don't put up with no foolishness Ol' Ron rules the land with a rod of iron.
"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
" Chuck Sykes is a dictator control freak like Vladimir Putin " WmHunter
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Re: No Baiting Clubs?
[Re: WmHunter]
#2825982
06/09/19 05:55 PM
06/09/19 05:55 PM
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Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 4,597
Elmore county
GKelly
10 point
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10 point
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 4,597
Elmore county
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Gonna be chaos, drama and arguments all over every hunting club in the entire State.
And conflict with neighbors.
I don't really anticipate it to cause us problems, we've never fed deer on our leases during the season but just about every deer killed had corn in its gut. The same is true on my personal property so someone has been feeding around us. I plan on having club feeders and everyone getting a permit. Nobody has objected to it. We'll put feeders in designated locations and keep feed in them. Time will tell. We've had the same members for several years and have had no problems. You cause problems, you find another place to hunt. Ol Ron don't put up with no foolishness Ol' Ron rules the land with a rod of iron. if you havent had problems in several years you are about to if the club is funding a couple feeders with everyones money get ready for some fussing and fighting when someone decides other members have been hunting a little too much over the corn they helped buy
Last edited by GKelly; 06/09/19 05:55 PM.
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Re: No Baiting Clubs?
[Re: hunterbuck]
#2826808
06/10/19 04:02 PM
06/10/19 04:02 PM
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Posts: 8,377
Gulfcrest
bigt
14 point
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14 point
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Gulfcrest
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Ya'll sure are worrying about something that's really not that big of a deal, its all in your head. If your planting food plots, you might as well bait. If you had bears where you hunt, you'd feel differently. We have bears, therefore we will continue to not feed/bait...but we will plant food plots. Just a thought since i have bears too and they will actually take over any preferred food source even a well fertilized and limed food plot. I wonder if it would be possible to bait a few places on a lease and keep the bears in those general locations to keep them from messing up the food plots and fresh acorns .....
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