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Re: God was watching over u?
[Re: jb20]
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06/07/19 06:43 AM
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I realize that this may get locked but I want to express my feelings in a short statement to shed a different light that u may not of thought of. When something bad happens and someone survives don't say God was on your side. I've known countless people that were God fearing Christians and lived there life like it that have lost husbands, wives and children. Was God on there side? YES he was and is. I just feel bad for the people that have lost kids and immediate family that hears this comment in other situations. Whatever God's plan is will happen it doesn't mean he wasn't on your side. Rant over My interpretation of your title "God was watching over U" is different than your opening line of "God was on your side" Two different statements and meanings to me. I've seen miracles and things which happen to people and it can only be to their survival of "God was watching over them" as anyone else in the same situation would normally have been dead, mangled, mashed flat, broken up, or blown away in tiny bits to all corners of this earth- in our interpretation of survival rates in that given situation. Not giving God the credit for their safety and still being here, in those above situations, to me would be denying the Lord. I'll give credit to my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ every chance I may. However, to say "God was on your side" seems to be poor verbiage. God is on all of our sides, and loves us all. He may not be pleased with our choices, but He is waiting open armed to embrace us coming back to Him, when we do make those bad decisions and choices. Just my thoughts. God Bless, David B.
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Re: God was watching over u?
[Re: jb20]
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06/07/19 06:50 AM
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Why would you assume this topic would be locked? I realize that, occasionally, the political and religious threads get very heated and sometimes they get shut down. But aldeer certainly isn't Google or YouTube.
My opinions and comments are my own. They do not reflect the position or political opinions of Aldeer or any of the Aldeer administration.
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Re: God was watching over u?
[Re: jb20]
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06/07/19 06:51 AM
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Too often we post, say or believe things that sound good or look good on a bumper sticker or tee shirt but do not align at all with Biblical scripture. It's part of what is called a theology grab bag. "You're not supposed to judge, God expects you to meet Him halfway, the Bible says don't drink alcohol", etc.. Of course, a lot of people who say they are are Christians rarely open up a Bible, anyway.
"The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him." -G. K. Chesterton
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Re: God was watching over u?
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06/07/19 07:09 AM
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I realize that this may get locked but I want to express my feelings in a short statement to shed a different light that u may not of thought of. When something bad happens and someone survives don't say God was on your side. I've known countless people that were God fearing Christians and lived there life like it that have lost husbands, wives and children. Was God on there side? YES he was and is. I just feel bad for the people that have lost kids and immediate family that hears this comment in other situations. Whatever God's plan is will happen it doesn't mean he wasn't on your side. Rant over My interpretation of your title "God was watching over U" is different than your opening line of "God was on your side" Two different statements and meanings to me. I've seen miracles and things which happen to people and it can only be to their survival of "God was watching over them" as anyone else in the same situation would normally have been dead, mangled, mashed flat, broken up, or blown away in tiny bits to all corners of this earth- in our interpretation of survival rates in that given situation. Not giving God the credit for their safety and still being here, in those above situations, to me would be denying the Lord. I'll give credit to my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ every chance I may. However, to say "God was on your side" seems to be poor verbiage. God is on all of our sides, and loves us all. He may not be pleased with our choices, but He is waiting open armed to embrace us coming back to Him, when we do make those bad decisions and choices. Just my thoughts. God Bless, David B. Agree and maybe it was poor verbiage. My point was God is watching over everyone. Ex. A tornado rips thru town and u have a family that loses someone then u have a family that didnt lose anyone next door. Both families are present and u say to the family that didnt lose someone God was watching over yall...that just seems distasteful to me for the family that just lost somebody, like ok so God wasn't watching over us?
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin
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Re: God was watching over u?
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06/07/19 07:11 AM
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Why would you assume this topic would be locked? I realize that, occasionally, the political and religious threads get very heated and sometimes they get shut down. But aldeer certainly isn't Google or YouTube. Because I know how quick threads get derailed here on the subject of religion
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin
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Re: God was watching over u?
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06/07/19 07:39 AM
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I think we endure things, because we have no choice but to endure them. I don't try to understand God's thinking behind why we have to endure things, I just try to understand my own thinking behind it. Either I made a bad decision and I need to do better next time, or someone around me made a bad decision and needs to do better next time, or it's some random situation that happened and I need to show my character in how I deal with it.
A few years ago when my oldest son died at only 30 years old from liver failure, I had to go to that hospital everyday and watch him die and there wasn't a damn thing I could do about it. It was bad. Did I lean on God for understanding? Yes I did. However I had no choice in the matter as to whether or not I had to endure it. I just did what needed to be done.
We as humans are put here to love other people and to endure both the good and the bad of life. We have free will and choices to make in how we live our lives and treat other people, but sometimes we are placed in situations that for all practical purposes are beyond our control and how we deal with those situations defines our character. Mr. Irish, I'm very sorry for the loss of your son.
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Re: God was watching over u?
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06/07/19 07:48 AM
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One thing not mentioned is that gave us free will. All too often we make poor decisions that cause us and others to suffer. If God controlled everything we would be nothing more than puppets.
Thomas Jefferson. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Life is too short to only hunt and fish on weekends!
If being a dumbass was fatal some of you would be on your death bed!
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Re: God was watching over u?
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06/07/19 08:01 AM
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I think we endure things, because we have no choice but to endure them. I don't try to understand God's thinking behind why we have to endure things, I just try to understand my own thinking behind it. Either I made a bad decision and I need to do better next time, or someone around me made a bad decision and needs to do better next time, or it's some random situation that happened and I need to show my character in how I deal with it.
A few years ago when my oldest son died at only 30 years old from liver failure, I had to go to that hospital everyday and watch him die and there wasn't a damn thing I could do about it. It was bad. Did I lean on God for understanding? Yes I did. However I had no choice in the matter as to whether or not I had to endure it. I just did what needed to be done.
We as humans are put here to love other people and to endure both the good and the bad of life. We have free will and choices to make in how we live our lives and treat other people, but sometimes we are placed in situations that for all practical purposes are beyond our control and how we deal with those situations defines our character. Sorry for your loss man. The wisdom your posting here can only be gained by going through what you did. Thanks you for the post.
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Re: God was watching over u?
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06/07/19 08:28 AM
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Too often we post, say or believe things that sound good or look good on a bumper sticker or tee shirt but do not align at all with Biblical scripture. It's part of what is called a theology grab bag. "You're not supposed to judge, God expects you to meet Him halfway, the Bible says don't drink alcohol", etc.. Of course, a lot of people who say they are are Christians rarely open up a Bible, anyway.
Very sad but also very true.
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Re: God was watching over u?
[Re: jb20]
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06/07/19 08:39 AM
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He has me burdened right now but I'm trying.
LUCK:::; When presistence, dedication, perspiration and preparation meet up with opportunity!!! - - - - - - - -A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have. Thomas Jeferson - - - - - - - -
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Re: God was watching over u?
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06/07/19 12:51 PM
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One thing not mentioned is that gave us free will. All too often we make poor decisions that cause us and others to suffer. If God controlled everything we would be nothing more than puppets. Exactly, we are of free will. Also a very common misconception. "All men are equal" I think not. All men are CREATED equal, all men are NOT equal. Which leads me back to free will...
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Re: God was watching over u?
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06/07/19 07:12 PM
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Agree and maybe it was poor verbiage. My point was God is watching over everyone. Ex. A tornado rips thru town and u have a family that loses someone then u have a family that didnt lose anyone next door. Both families are present and u say to the family that didnt lose someone God was watching over yall...that just seems distasteful to me for the family that just lost somebody, like ok so God wasn't watching over us?
If both families are present, then yes, that would be a bad a statement and a slap in the face to the family who lost the loved one. Words are helpful and may build others up, but they can be be hurtful and tear others down. God Bless, David B.
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Re: God was watching over u?
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06/07/19 07:20 PM
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God doesn't put more on our shoulders than we can handle. Can you give me a scripture that backs that up? I can give you one that refutes it.
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Re: God was watching over u?
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06/07/19 10:22 PM
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We are all going to die. None of us know when or how. None of us are owed a good long life. If I fall out of a tree next week and die, it was my time. Will my wife and kids be sad, yes. Were they cheated out of something because I died at 42, I dont think so. If I hadnt given my life to the Lord 11yrs ago I would already be dead. The Lord gave me several more years. We humans get all twisted up about death because we have a very poor understanding of time and an even poorer understanding of a place without time. Take time out of the equasion and suddenly death is not such a big deal. Maybe not to those facing death who have assurance of Salvation in Christ Jesus, but for those we leave behind, particularly when it is sudden, it can be quite a big deal. The sudden loss of a spouse, son, daughter, etc. can be a very traumatic, and lonely experience, even when we know our beloved are in a better place. God Bless, David B.
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Re: God was watching over u?
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06/07/19 10:32 PM
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. We are all going to die. None of us know when or how. None of us are owed a good long life. If I fall out of a tree next week and die, it was my time. Will my wife and kids be sad, yes. Were they cheated out of something because I died at 42, I dont think so. If I hadnt given my life to the Lord 11yrs ago I would already be dead. The Lord gave me several more years. We humans get all twisted up about death because we have a very poor understanding of time and an even poorer understanding of a place without time. Take time out of the equasion and suddenly death is not such a big deal. Maybe not to those facing death who have assurance of Salvation in Christ Jesus, but for those we leave behind, particularly when it is sudden, it can be quite a big deal. The sudden loss of a spouse, son, daughter, etc. can be a very traumatic, and lonely experience, even when we know our beloved are in a better place. God Bless, David B. Death should be a happy situation if you truly believe. If a person won the powerball, most family would be happy as shucks. Meeting our maker that everyone says they live for?...........gloom??? Really?
Nathan Carl Goff 19 Sept 2016 - 14 Jan 2017.
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Re: God was watching over u?
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. We are all going to die. None of us know when or how. None of us are owed a good long life. If I fall out of a tree next week and die, it was my time. Will my wife and kids be sad, yes. Were they cheated out of something because I died at 42, I dont think so. If I hadnt given my life to the Lord 11yrs ago I would already be dead. The Lord gave me several more years. We humans get all twisted up about death because we have a very poor understanding of time and an even poorer understanding of a place without time. Take time out of the equasion and suddenly death is not such a big deal. Maybe not to those facing death who have assurance of Salvation in Christ Jesus, but for those we leave behind, particularly when it is sudden, it can be quite a big deal. The sudden loss of a spouse, son, daughter, etc. can be a very traumatic, and lonely experience, even when we know our beloved are in a better place. God Bless, David B. Death should be a happy situation if you truly believe. If a person won the powerball, most family would be happy as shucks. Meeting our maker that everyone says they live for?...........gloom??? Really? Dan, the best way I can explain it is a couple of weeks ago I was out of town away from my 14 year old daughter for 10 days. I missed her terribly. If I lose a loved one that I know has Christ, I'm happy that they are with our Saviour and are experiencing a new life that I can't fathom but I still will miss them and our time here on earth.
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