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Re: ADHD [Re: bdw32] #2819621
05/31/19 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by bdw32
Idk about losing weight and wiring me up.. pretty much stay around 215 and always been very active.. now I can just stay focused on one task and remember stuff. I don’t my medicine every day tho and could drop it if I needed to.

I feel like all the chemicals used now days are the root to most of society’s problems now days.

Helping me to remember and being able to stay on track is all
It’s done so far which I guess has been good


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Re: ADHD [Re: bigcountry692001] #2819692
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I was ADD before it was diagnosed and like doc said, school was always a struggle. If it did not interest me, I was fishing or hunting while others were learning what was being taught. Was finally tested at 44 and proved what I always knew. Vyvanse helped but had odd urological side effects. Adderall helped tremendously, but after a year or so, there were other side effects and I just stopped it altogether.

The chemical makeup of the brain for each individual is a truly remarkable thing. For know it all Johnny, 100 years ago, most people worked in the fields and life WAS different. They didn't stare at a computer for hours on end and there were not a million distractions. I just write more things down now.

Know your body and understand there are side effects and different meds can be tried to help. There are many positives to being treated and hopefully you will continue to see good results.

Re: ADHD [Re: bill] #2819697
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Originally Posted by bill
Originally Posted by Hayzeus
Adderall is crystal meth.



That isn't an exaggeration, either. People wonder why they lose weight and are wired on their ADD meds. It's just legal meth.

If you don’t need it is. It makes people focus that actually needs it.

Re: ADHD [Re: bill] #2819730
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Originally Posted by bill
Originally Posted by Hayzeus
Adderall is crystal meth.



That isn't an exaggeration, either. People wonder why they lose weight and are wired on their ADD meds. It's just legal meth.

the active ingredient in adderall is Methamphetamine salt chemically the effects are exactly the same as Crystal methamphetamine just different way they synthesize it.

Re: ADHD [Re: bigcountry692001] #2819731
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I went through high school and college not understanding why I could never just sit down and focus at really much of anything school wise as well as was all over the place with conversations etc. I had someone finally get me to go to the doctor about what was going on and was literally a textbook ADHD case. That said, I was prescribed Adderall taken as needed now in grad school and it has literally made a worlds difference in my studying ability. People who don't have ADHD don't know what it's like and cannot comment on the use of medication for the purposes it was designed for. I myself was never one to use anything I wasn't prescribed for, and I personally don't like taking pills. Am I addicted to it? Absolutely not because I just take it to study with and don't use it as a daily thing. Yes it is a methamphetamine salt that is a stimulant and has the side effects of suppressing hunger, so you will lose weight potentially as well as it makes you have a "flat" mood/more focused mood which is another reason why I don't use them all the time. All in all, if you have legitimate ADHD and not misdiagnosed (Drs. misdiagnose it all the time) then you will see a world of a difference using the proper medication. This negative stigma towards mental health and proper medications needs to be put to rest. Wish you the best!


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Re: ADHD [Re: Hayzeus] #2819735
06/01/19 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Hayzeus
Adderall is crystal meth.

Adderall is an amphetamine you moron.
That's a long way from meth. Adderall isn't made with drain cleaner and battery acid.


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Re: ADHD [Re: Gobble4me757] #2819739
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Originally Posted by Gobble4me757
I went through high school and college not understanding why I could never just sit down and focus at really much of anything school wise as well as was all over the place with conversations etc. I had someone finally get me to go to the doctor about what was going on and was literally a textbook ADHD case. That said, I was prescribed Adderall taken as needed now in grad school and it has literally made a worlds difference in my studying ability. People who don't have ADHD don't know what it's like and cannot comment on the use of medication for the purposes it was designed for. I myself was never one to use anything I wasn't prescribed for, and I personally don't like taking pills. Am I addicted to it? Absolutely not because I just take it to study with and don't use it as a daily thing. Yes it is a methamphetamine salt that is a stimulant and has the side effects of suppressing hunger, so you will lose weight potentially as well as it makes you have a "flat" mood/more focused mood which is another reason why I don't use them all the time. All in all, if you have legitimate ADHD and not misdiagnosed (Drs. misdiagnose it all the time) then you will see a world of a difference using the proper medication. This negative stigma towards mental health and proper medications needs to be put to rest. Wish you the best!


Thanks G757. You have hit the nail on the head. Meds to treat ADHD react differently in a neuro-typical brain than they do in a person under the curse of ADHD. Case in point - stimulants provide focus and calming effect for me. My med of choice back when I medicated was Strattera. It is a non-stimulant.


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Re: ADHD [Re: Gobble4me757] #2819746
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Originally Posted by Gobble4me757
I went through high school and college not understanding why I could never just sit down and focus at really much of anything school wise as well as was all over the place with conversations etc. I had someone finally get me to go to the doctor about what was going on and was literally a textbook ADHD case. That said, I was prescribed Adderall taken as needed now in grad school and it has literally made a worlds difference in my studying ability. People who don't have ADHD don't know what it's like and cannot comment on the use of medication for the purposes it was designed for. I myself was never one to use anything I wasn't prescribed for, and I personally don't like taking pills. Am I addicted to it? Absolutely not because I just take it to study with and don't use it as a daily thing. Yes it is a methamphetamine salt that is a stimulant and has the side effects of suppressing hunger, so you will lose weight potentially as well as it makes you have a "flat" mood/more focused mood which is another reason why I don't use them all the time. All in all, if you have legitimate ADHD and not misdiagnosed (Drs. misdiagnose it all the time) then you will see a world of a difference using the proper medication. This negative stigma towards mental health and proper medications needs to be put to rest. Wish you the best!


I was having the same issues with school and work the doc said I’m a textbook case as well. I took the summer term off since I just retired. I’ll start back up in the fall once my kids go back to school and wife goes back on her normal work schedule. I wasn’t sure about taking it while not going to school but the doc told me to go head and take it for at least 30 days so they could change it if need be before school starts back.


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Re: ADHD [Re: Out back] #2819750
06/01/19 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Out back
Originally Posted by Hayzeus
Adderall is crystal meth.

Adderall is an amphetamine you moron.
That's a long way from meth. Adderall isn't made with drain cleaner and battery acid.

And red lye or whatever else those walker county chemist can concoct

Re: ADHD [Re: Out back] #2819751
06/01/19 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Out back
Originally Posted by Hayzeus
Adderall is crystal meth.

Adderall is an amphetamine you moron.
That's a long way from meth. Adderall isn't made with drain cleaner and battery acid.


Meth just has an extra methyl group, that’s it. An extra 3 hydrogens and 1 carbon are all that distinguish basic amphetamine and methamphetamines.

The reason meth is made with all those those chemicals is so that A) the amine on the pseudoephedrine can be reduced to a hydrogen (forming Methamphetamine) and B) the product can be made into a crystalline form.

Pseudoephedrine, amphetamines, and phenylephrine are all 1-2 functional groups, and sometimes just one extra atom away from being meth.

Re: ADHD [Re: JohnnyLoco] #2819756
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Originally Posted by JohnnyLoco
Problem is, people are different and society is way out of whack and fast paced. If this was 1860, it wouldn’t be a concern.

Society wants everyone in a freakin box


This.

Re: ADHD [Re: bigcountry692001] #2819757
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Kinda like those fake butter spreads, just one atom away from being plastic, but not plastic.


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Re: ADHD [Re: bigcountry692001] #2819759
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Not ADHD but my twins are both ADD. One not so bad but one is super sensitive. Before diagnosis, his grades were horrible. Homework was a nightmare. Even just reading a simple chapter book would take forever because of his inability to focus. We started the vyvanse at 10 mg doses. Difference is night and day. He is now an honor student but still has his happy go lucky personality.


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Re: ADHD [Re: bigcountry692001] #2819762
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I started struggling a few years back with remembering medication dosages and EMS protocols. Couldn't get any intensive tasks completed in a timely manner. Memory and concentration issues. Diagnosed and placed on Vyvanse. Literally it was an immediate impact on my performance. People noted the difference. I was back on top of my game. I didn't like the way it made me feel and I didn't like the way it kept me from sleeping as well. I had to take it no later than 4am to be able to get to sleep at a decent time.

I continued to take it while I was assigned to a medical transport. When that assignment was over I was able to come off the medication and only take it as needed. I haven't taken it in a long time. I told my physician I didn't need it any longer after I retired from the fire service. With fewer demands on my memory and attention I'm able to function without it. When working three jobs I just couldn't function as well as I needed without it.

There was no weight loss with it. There were some irritable moods when coming down from it. There are other side effects. If it's not needed to function I'd not take it. Only take it as needed.


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Re: ADHD [Re: bigcountry692001] #2819767
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IMO taking Adderall to study is no different than taking steroids while working out. It's crazy how many college students use the drug.

Re: ADHD [Re: perchjerker] #2819790
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Originally Posted by perchjerker
I'm with you BPI. The whole drugging kids was accepted because then parents and teachers didn't have to parent or discipline. Just drug the kid!

bulldoodoo. I have a son with bad ADD. You need to STFU about shucks you don’t know and take a few more of those narcotics the VA gives you.

Re: ADHD [Re: ford150man] #2819794
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Originally Posted by ford150man
Not ADHD but my twins are both ADD. One not so bad but one is super sensitive. Before diagnosis, his grades were horrible. Homework was a nightmare. Even just reading a simple chapter book would take forever because of his inability to focus. We started the vyvanse at 10 mg doses. Difference is night and day. He is now an honor student but still has his happy go lucky personality.

We’ve had the same experience

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Doelicker you just can't help being an azzhole. PhuckYourself! It's clear you didn't get your azz beat as a loudmouth kid!


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Re: ADHD [Re: bigcountry692001] #2819797
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There are 100% no doubt children out there that need ADD and ADHD medicine. However, those are two of the most over diagnosed disorders out there. The screening criteria and “symptoms” are ridiculously broad.

Re: ADHD [Re: bigcountry692001] #2819799
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This thread could get interesting. I had adhd from early grade school through the end of college but it’s not as bad these days. I used to be on meds for it. On a drive longer than 30 mins, I still can’t pay attention to whomever is talking. My wife will bring something up and I’ll say she never said anything but it’s because I was not focused. Makes me feel bad. My aunt has a 12 year old son with it and it about cripples his learning skills.

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