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Re: Additional fees for Lifetime License Holders
[Re: joeml18]
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05/21/19 01:06 PM
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Hey guys, I have never heard of the reef permit and just looked at the list of available licenses and don't see it listed. I purchased my saltwater license the other day and I just want to make sure I am not missing something. Scroll down toward the bottom. It's a new fee. https://www.outdooralabama.com/node/2604
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Re: Additional fees for Lifetime License Holders
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05/21/19 01:08 PM
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Thanks OlTimer/Clem, I'll have to check that out.
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Re: Additional fees for Lifetime License Holders
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05/22/19 04:55 AM
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If when you bought the lifetime salt water license it covered species that are now being carved out for an additional license that’s a big can of BS. No wonder some are bothered by this.
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Re: Additional fees for Lifetime License Holders
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05/22/19 10:01 AM
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It's the same with hunting. When I got my license, it covered every legal means of hunting in the state. That way I never had to buy another license. But now they are saying well under this method you have to buy another one. To me its a breach of contract, along with who is to say they don't start adding other licenses for shotgun, riflle, muzzleloader, bow, etc... Again its stated, it covered all hunting.
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Re: Additional fees for Lifetime License Holders
[Re: HHSyelper]
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05/22/19 10:06 AM
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It's the same with hunting. When I got my license, it covered every legal means of hunting in the state. That way I never had to buy another license. But now they are saying well under this method you have to buy another one. To me its a breach of contract, along with who is to say they don't start adding other licenses for shotgun, riflle, muzzleloader, bow, etc... Again its stated, it covered all hunting. Website actually says all hunting "privileges", which is what they're calling they baiting permit.
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Re: Additional fees for Lifetime License Holders
[Re: OlTimer]
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05/22/19 10:14 AM
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Just wait.
More will come in the future. This is only the beginning.
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Re: Additional fees for Lifetime License Holders
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05/22/19 01:40 PM
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It's the same with hunting. When I got my license, it covered every legal means of hunting in the state. That way I never had to buy another license. But now they are saying well under this method you have to buy another one. To me its a breach of contract, along with who is to say they don't start adding other licenses for shotgun, riflle, muzzleloader, bow, etc... Again its stated, it covered all hunting. But, how can they get more money unless they do it this way??? This way they can also get the "over 65, under 16" group plus the landowner group. Don't you support wildlife conservation in this state? What about the GW's starving children??? Have you no heart? (This is sarcasm for those of you who are sarcastically challenged).
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Re: Additional fees for Lifetime License Holders
[Re: Clem]
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05/25/19 05:56 PM
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Just wait.
More will come in the future. This is only the beginning.
Cause we keep paying. Thats why trucks and fuel cost what they do.
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Re: Additional fees for Lifetime License Holders
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05/27/19 02:06 PM
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It's the same with hunting. When I got my license, it covered every legal means of hunting in the state. That way I never had to buy another license. But now they are saying well under this method you have to buy another one. To me its a breach of contract, along with who is to say they don't start adding other licenses for shotgun, riflle, muzzleloader, bow, etc... Again its stated, it covered all hunting. Here in Florida they nickel & dime for all methods of hunting. Permit for bowhunting, permit for muzzleloaders, permit for crossbows, on & on it goes. Where it's stops no one knows....
I came, I saw, so I killed them all......Vern
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Re: Additional fees for Lifetime License Holders
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05/27/19 02:27 PM
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It's the same with hunting. When I got my license, it covered every legal means of hunting in the state. That way I never had to buy another license. But now they are saying well under this method you have to buy another one. To me its a breach of contract, along with who is to say they don't start adding other licenses for shotgun, riflle, muzzleloader, bow, etc... Again its stated, it covered all hunting. Here in Florida they nickel & dime for all methods of hunting. Permit for bowhunting, permit for muzzleloaders, permit for crossbows, on & on it goes. Where it's stops no one knows.... I forgot that Florida had the weapon-specific permit fees, too. So that's Mississippi, Tennessee, Florida and Louisiana with weapon-specific permits. Arkansas has a flat fee, best I can tell. Kentucky, North Carolina, South Carolina and Georgia - you have to buy a hunting license and a separate Big Game license and/or privilge permit. Kentucky requires additional individual permits for deer, turkey and elk. Alabama needed to be progressive with GameCheck to catch up with everyone else. We needed to be progressive with buck limits to catch up with everyone else. We've now added a feeder permit to generate revenue. It's only a matter of time before we have more.
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"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: Additional fees for Lifetime License Holders
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05/29/19 10:02 PM
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My parents bought me a lifetime hunting license for my birthday in 1985 when they first came out. It is a contract. I will never spend another dime due to principle alone. I also bought 3 PACT funds for my kids. The state used treasury letter head to promote the sale of the PACT. Shitforbrains Kay Ivey was the treasurer at that time and misrepresented the fund as a state backed fund. She also believed in buy high sell low on stock and bankrupted the fund in 2008 when the market tanked and screwed everyone. What a dumbass. The PACT owners had to take the state to court to make them pay which is shameful. We still never got full value of the PACT. Of all the things we have to be ashamed of in this state, the most shameful is how we manage our resources. The DCNR is a joke! We are light years behind other states in managing our wildlife and it shows.
Once again, I love this state and it is my home. Never ever ever give this state your money for a long term basis on consent. They will SCREW you!
Hunting brings out the worst in people.
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Re: Additional fees for Lifetime License Holders
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05/30/19 07:59 PM
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Gonna get blasted but here goes. I never got a lifetime but I do understand the heartburn with the baiting fees. Been fishing in the gulf for 30+ years the reef fish permit is a total crock of BS. My problem with some of the posters never wanting to buy a lifetime for their kids is what I don't understand, From a strictly $$$'s perspective it is still the best bang for your bucks even if you include the add ons. Unless the state changes, which is possible not buying a lifetime is to my $$ advantage today, due to my age. So isn't the $$$'s really what it is about. 19yo lifetime $1200(hunt, fresh/salt) bought separate $3000 w/o any increases over the next 46 years.
Last edited by capehorn24; 05/30/19 08:01 PM.
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Re: Additional fees for Lifetime License Holders
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05/31/19 06:24 AM
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Glad I don’t waste my money in Alabama anymore.
Leases are outrageous and so is the DNR leadership.
Just wait until CWD is found. The circus and its leader Chucky will lead some great entertainment.
BTR Scorer in NW Alabama
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Re: Additional fees for Lifetime License Holders
[Re: AlabamaSwamper]
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05/31/19 08:19 AM
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Glad I don’t waste my money in Alabama anymore.
Leases are outrageous and so is the DNR leadership.
Just wait until CWD is found. The circus and its leader Chucky will lead some great entertainment.
How is what TWRA is doing with its southwestern counties and the counties around them that are "possible" counties any different from what Mississippi has done or Alabama could do? They found 100+ positives in three counties and then killed the chit out of deer there for testing along with testing hunters' deer. I'm sure they did more testing in the outlying counties as well. They now have instituted special regulations including a 3-day season in August, an "earn a buck" program for hunters who kill antlerless deer and can get an extra buck above the state limit, and even a "replacement buck" situation in which hunters who submit their buck for testing get a "replacement" tag if that first buck tests positive. Mississippi pretty much did the same in regard to its positives - ramped up testing, instituted specific regulations, etc. I haven't seen the 2019 regs to see if MDFWP has changed any seasons or limits, though, like TWRA did.
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"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: Additional fees for Lifetime License Holders
[Re: Clem]
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05/31/19 08:58 AM
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I haven't seen the 2019 regs to see if MDFWP has changed any seasons or limits, though, like TWRA did.
Mississippi took away antler restrictions for 1 buck, making that "any buck". Still a 3 buck limit.
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Re: Additional fees for Lifetime License Holders
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05/31/19 01:01 PM
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It is oddly suspect that they had NEVER found a case and then suddenly found 100+ positives in such a short time period.
But, whatever! Hog, I think that part of the state is like a little blip or hole in the ground so maybe it wasn't on their radar as a great hunting area. Not sure. But I agree, to not have any and then go from "Hey, we have a few" to "Damn, we have more than 30?" to "Oh, sh*t we've got how many???" is crazy.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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