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Speaking of Cogongrass
#2811235
05/20/19 10:19 AM
05/20/19 10:19 AM
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Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 1,029 Central AL
Overland
OP
6 point
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OP
6 point
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 1,029
Central AL
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Has anybody had any real world success in eradicating Cogongrass? Had some pines thinned last Spring and looks like Cogongrass came in on the logging equipment or the dozier that put in the firebreaks early this Spring. I have about a 30 x 30 area that it is infected. State of Alabama offers little resources other than information. I have asked the Alabama Forestry Commission and NRCS for assistance. I've spent about 10 hours researching and most sites/literature says that true eradication is not possible. Looks like I will start with an RU/Arsenal combo with multiple applications. Not sure of other steps. The Alabama Forestry Commission has a pretty good field guide: http://www.forestry.alabama.gov/Pages/Fire/Invasive_Species.aspxhttp://www.forestry.alabama.gov/Pages/Informational/Images/Cogongrass_Field_Guide.pdfHoping somebody can tell me something I've missed...
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Re: Speaking of Cogongrass
[Re: Overland]
#2811260
05/20/19 11:04 AM
05/20/19 11:04 AM
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Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 2,383 Andalusia
sanderson
8 point
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8 point
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Eradicated a bunch of it. There’s 0 reason to add gly to the arsenal. All you’re doing is shutting the plant down and preventing up take of arsenal. Use 1.08-1.25 oz of Arsenal per gallon of water in a hand spray application. A second treatment may be needed to following year if you did not get an even coverage. If it is under hardwood or Longleaf use straight gly at 4 oz per gallon of water and treat every time it’s greens up.
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Re: Speaking of Cogongrass
[Re: Overland]
#2811264
05/20/19 11:16 AM
05/20/19 11:16 AM
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Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 6,248 somewhere around 112.
slippinlipjr
I make Calds fer a livin
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I've got a backyard full of it. Been testing different methods. All I have figured out is that it takes years to totally eradicate a patch of it. Spraying then tilling really hasn't helped. Breaking up the rizome mats only makes it harder to get rid of. Just spray what you can see, then spray out 5' past the jap grass you can see. I've noticed Wilcox county of all places has been spraying a lot of it. Baldwin County seems to welcome it. Try to spray it before the seed heads appear.
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Re: Speaking of Cogongrass
[Re: Overland]
#2811276
05/20/19 11:37 AM
05/20/19 11:37 AM
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Joined: May 2009
Posts: 2,748 Hayden, Alabama
HHSyelper
10 point
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10 point
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Just found a couple of spots of it in a river bottom filed of ours, will start with roundup soon.
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Re: Speaking of Cogongrass
[Re: Overland]
#2811328
05/20/19 12:42 PM
05/20/19 12:42 PM
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Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 61 Baldwin County
Inspector
spike
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spike
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Posts: 61
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I've used a mix of Crossbow and 2,4-D. It has knocked it down to dirt first year I sprayed, it tried shooting up small sprouts about a year later so I hit it again. That seemed to have killed it for good. It is not an overnight process for sure though.
Last edited by Inspector; 05/20/19 12:43 PM.
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Re: Speaking of Cogongrass
[Re: Inspector]
#2811455
05/20/19 04:00 PM
05/20/19 04:00 PM
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Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 5,762 Lower AL
k bush
12 point
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12 point
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Posts: 5,762
Lower AL
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I've used a mix of Crossbow and 2,4-D. It has knocked it down to dirt first year I sprayed, it tried shooting up small sprouts about a year later so I hit it again. That seemed to have killed it for good. It is not an overnight process for sure though. ??? On Cogongrass ? Those are broadleaf herbicides.
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Re: Speaking of Cogongrass
[Re: Overland]
#2811470
05/20/19 04:14 PM
05/20/19 04:14 PM
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Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 16,837 Banana Republic
jb20
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
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I sprayed sum today with crossbow remedy and roundup mix I'll be surprised if it lives
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin
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Re: Speaking of Cogongrass
[Re: jb20]
#2811491
05/20/19 04:39 PM
05/20/19 04:39 PM
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Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,708 Opelika ,AL
bwhunter
8 point
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Posts: 1,708
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I sprayed sum today with crossbow remedy and roundup mix I'll be surprised if it lives Crossbow and Remedy are for broadleaf and woody control. You've spent a lot of extra money because the only control out of that mix for grass would be the roundup. Crossbow and remedy are used when trying to preserve grasses.
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Re: Speaking of Cogongrass
[Re: bwhunter]
#2811498
05/20/19 04:45 PM
05/20/19 04:45 PM
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Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 16,837 Banana Republic
jb20
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
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I sprayed sum today with crossbow remedy and roundup mix I'll be surprised if it lives Crossbow and Remedy are for broadleaf and woody control. You've spent a lot of extra money because the only control out of that mix for grass would be the roundup. Crossbow and remedy are used when trying to preserve grasses. Well I got miles of fence rows to spray and there is a mix of hedge and other stuff
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin
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Re: Speaking of Cogongrass
[Re: Overland]
#2811594
05/20/19 06:38 PM
05/20/19 06:38 PM
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Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 2,383 Andalusia
sanderson
8 point
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Hit it with Arsenal and be done. Quit playing with it and kill it. I fully understand if it’s around hardwood or small LL but come on now.
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Re: Speaking of Cogongrass
[Re: Overland]
#2811636
05/20/19 07:34 PM
05/20/19 07:34 PM
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Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 8,757 bessemer, al
hunterturf
14 point
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14 point
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*** I’ve never sprayed a sprig of cogon grass however it was all over a lease I have.
The owner sprays it with arsenal and discs the area a month or 2 later. I’ve never seen it come back where he does this 2-3 times. It came in with a logging crew thinning the timber 4-5 years ago
Give me bout 15 more minutes, I was dreamin about beavers.......... Si Robertson
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Re: Speaking of Cogongrass
[Re: Overland]
#2811646
05/20/19 07:48 PM
05/20/19 07:48 PM
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Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 2,383 Andalusia
sanderson
8 point
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8 point
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Sure did. If you don’t get good even coverage you can have a few sprigs the next year. A few sprigs leftover isn’t a big deal at all. Hell come down and spend the day and i can show you patch after patch that I’ve killed completely.
Again why are you putting RU in the mix?
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Re: Speaking of Cogongrass
[Re: Overland]
#2811653
05/20/19 07:54 PM
05/20/19 07:54 PM
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Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 39,451 Marshall County
FurFlyin
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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Posts: 39,451
Marshall County
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Might be a dumb question, but won't be the first one I've asked today...
Why would covering it with black plastic for a long while not kill it, especially if it gets sunlight on it?
I know that isn't practical in many applications, but seems like a 30x30 sized spot a couple of black tarps would knock it down.
If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
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Re: Speaking of Cogongrass
[Re: FurFlyin]
#2811897
05/21/19 06:30 AM
05/21/19 06:30 AM
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Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 6,248 somewhere around 112.
slippinlipjr
I make Calds fer a livin
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I make Calds fer a livin
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Might be a dumb question, but won't be the first one I've asked today...
Why would covering it with black plastic for a long while not kill it, especially if it gets sunlight on it?
I know that isn't practical in many applications, but seems like a 30x30 sized spot a couple of black tarps would knock it down. Tried that Fur. I hate spraying anything. It will come up through any plastic. The new shoots are sharper than a broadhead.
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Re: Speaking of Cogongrass
[Re: Overland]
#2811935
05/21/19 07:24 AM
05/21/19 07:24 AM
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Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 2,778 Florida
jacannon
10 point
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10 point
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Posts: 2,778
Florida
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I have used black plastic and it works some, but the sun kills the plastic in a few months. I have kept it out of food plots by plowing every year with a disc plow. My buddy in North Escambia Fl. has been using RU at 1 gal. per acre and had some success. We found it on his farm in the mid 70s, 1 patch about 10 feet across. Had no idea what it was. Cows wouldn't eat it. Now it is everywhere. This stuff is the devil.
Grandma said...Always keep a gun close at hand, you just never know when you might run across some varmint that needs killing...
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