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Re: Ag vs. Pelletized Lime
[Re: Lockjaw]
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05/21/21 01:47 PM
05/21/21 01:47 PM
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ronfromramer
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I hauled 24 tons of Ag lime out to my club last fall, using a 2 ton dump trailer. One of the things I learned is a ton of ag lime isn't very much. I need to soil test this summer and see where I am. It was to damp to run through my 3 pt spreader too.
There is a bag lime called pro-cal that is about $15 a bag. 4 bags are enough to raise the PH on an acre 1 full point from what I have been told. However, the effects don't last as long as ag lime. So its an every year kind of deal.
I have started moving away from disking and getting on a rotation of planting cereal grains and brassica's in the fall, and beans and pea's in the spring. In the fall, I just broadcast into the standing beans, in the spring, I broadcast into the standing cereal grains, and then go over it with a flail mower. The flail mower drops the "mulch" out the back on top of the seed and it has a big roller back there which acts like a cultipacker. So far it looks like it works pretty well. Hoping if I can get the dirt PH in the good range, that I don't have to lime as much. I'd love to see that explained in chemical terms. Every magic bullet I've ever seen advertised or stated was pure bull doo doo. Calcium is calcium and you can't exceed 100%. Even if it is pure, you can't turn 200 lbs into a ton that's 65-90%. CCE. That's alchemy, lets just turn straw into gold, then we've really got something
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Re: Ag vs. Pelletized Lime
[Re: Joe4majors]
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05/21/21 08:41 PM
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Posts: 21,765 Awbarn, AL
CNC
Dances With Weeds
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Dances With Weeds
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Awbarn, AL
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A plant tissue test would give you a better idea of what is really going on......That tells you what is actually making it into the plant....Research shows that a plant's uptake of nutrients is heavily tied to the microbial activity in the soil.....Plants dont actually suck up nutrients like drinking from a straw.....The are fed the nutrients by soil microbes in a symbiotic exchange......So what may be in the soil may not be the same as what actually makes it into the plant. In the future there will be much more focus on promoting soil life for the sake of the microbes role in mining nutrients and feeding plants.
Last edited by CNC; 05/21/21 08:42 PM.
We dont rent pigs
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Re: Ag vs. Pelletized Lime
[Re: Shotts]
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05/25/21 01:18 PM
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Posts: 7,081 Free State of Winston
FreeStateHunter
They Call Me Gator 🐊
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They Call Me Gator 🐊
Joined: Mar 2020
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Free State of Winston
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I put out 12 ton (3 buggies at 4 ton each) from the Hamilton Co-op two weeks ago, going to pull a soil test this fall and see how much it helped. Pretty good deal from them buy the lime and they let you use their pull behind buggy, 4 tons is a a lot with a 1500 truck but it worked out ok I was able to get to most of my plots without hooking it to the tractor. I don't figure you'll see much of a difference. Usually takes about 90 days for lime to take hold right?
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Re: Ag vs. Pelletized Lime
[Re: FreeStateHunter]
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05/25/21 03:47 PM
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Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 22,168 blount county alabama
jwalker77
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Pumpkin
Joined: Dec 2015
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I put out 12 ton (3 buggies at 4 ton each) from the Hamilton Co-op two weeks ago, going to pull a soil test this fall and see how much it helped. Pretty good deal from them buy the lime and they let you use their pull behind buggy, 4 tons is a a lot with a 1500 truck but it worked out ok I was able to get to most of my plots without hooking it to the tractor. I don't figure you'll see much of a difference. Usually takes about 90 days for lime to take hold right? Pelletized lime works immediately id you incorporate it into the soil.
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Re: Ag vs. Pelletized Lime
[Re: ronfromramer]
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06/09/21 11:47 AM
06/09/21 11:47 AM
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Lockjaw
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I hauled 24 tons of Ag lime out to my club last fall, using a 2 ton dump trailer. One of the things I learned is a ton of ag lime isn't very much. I need to soil test this summer and see where I am. It was to damp to run through my 3 pt spreader too.
There is a bag lime called pro-cal that is about $15 a bag. 4 bags are enough to raise the PH on an acre 1 full point from what I have been told. However, the effects don't last as long as ag lime. So its an every year kind of deal.
I have started moving away from disking and getting on a rotation of planting cereal grains and brassica's in the fall, and beans and pea's in the spring. In the fall, I just broadcast into the standing beans, in the spring, I broadcast into the standing cereal grains, and then go over it with a flail mower. The flail mower drops the "mulch" out the back on top of the seed and it has a big roller back there which acts like a cultipacker. So far it looks like it works pretty well. Hoping if I can get the dirt PH in the good range, that I don't have to lime as much. I'd love to see that explained in chemical terms. Every magic bullet I've ever seen advertised or stated was pure bull doo doo. Calcium is calcium and you can't exceed 100%. Even if it is pure, you can't turn 200 lbs into a ton that's 65-90%. CCE. That's alchemy, lets just turn straw into gold, then we've really got something It's called Cal-pro Chelated Calcium if you want to look at it. All I know is that's what the place I get it from told me about it. They said alot of their hunting clubs are using it. I have tried the spray lime too. Wasn't impressed with it at all. My soil tests from last summer said I needed between 2 and 2.5 tons of ag lime per acre. My extension agent friend said he wouldn't put more than about 1.5 tons on at a time. My PH was from 4.6 to 5.2. And one of the lowest fields was one I sprayed lime on. Go figure. I did put out 1600 pounds of pelletized lime on a greenfield a couple weeks ago. It took about 45 minutes with a 3pt spreader. But its just sitting on the surface. I don't plan to disk the field, so we shall see how that does. I think my coop will put out lime with their spreader truck for $30/ton. They can't get that into all my spots though. I want one of those nicer drop spreaders, but that is $$$$.
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Re: Ag vs. Pelletized Lime
[Re: Ridge Life]
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06/09/21 08:31 PM
06/09/21 08:31 PM
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Posts: 5,745 Lower AL
k bush
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Y’all need any litter.... Do you deliver to SW AL ?
"Cull" is just another four letter word...
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