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Best Muzzleloaders #2802432
05/07/19 09:09 PM
05/07/19 09:09 PM
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Northeast Florida
BamaGrad85 Offline OP
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Wanting to spend less than $500 on a muzzleloader. What's out there for a beginner? Scope or iron sights? What scope do you prefer?


I came, I saw, so I killed them all......Vern
Re: Best Muzzleloaders [Re: BamaGrad85] #2802458
05/07/19 09:27 PM
05/07/19 09:27 PM
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Posts: 591
Birmingham, AL
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Used Remington 700ML .50cal, .45cal Barnes X bullet with sabot, 2 pellets pyrodex, 1" groups at 100yds. Make sure you get the tools as well.

Re: Best Muzzleloaders [Re: BamaGrad85] #2802608
05/08/19 07:14 AM
05/08/19 07:14 AM
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Calera, Al
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Calera, Al
Tc encore pro hunter


Originally Posted By: Wiley Coyote
Well, the way I see it is there's just too many assholes
On a good day there's a bunch of assholes in here. On a bad day there's too many assholes in here.
Re: Best Muzzleloaders [Re: BamaGrad85] #2802667
05/08/19 08:29 AM
05/08/19 08:29 AM
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Another vote for the TC Encore Pro Hunter. Just a standard 3-9x40 scope is all you need. Nothing fancy.

Re: Best Muzzleloaders [Re: BamaGrad85] #2802706
05/08/19 09:08 AM
05/08/19 09:08 AM
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Collierville, TN, Shelby
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Collierville, TN, Shelby
CVA Accura - Bergara barrels are better than any anything Thompson sells.

Re: Best Muzzleloaders [Re: BamaGrad85] #2802788
05/08/19 11:08 AM
05/08/19 11:08 AM
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Well you're obviously interested in a modern/inline rifle since you also asked about a scope. In which case, I'd agree with @square about the CVA Accura. It's a great rifle.

But if I had $500 to drop on a muzzleloader, I'd mosey over to the classified ad section of https://www.muzzleloadingforum.com and get something more "traditional". There are usually a number of guys selling Lyman GPRs, older CVAs, and similar rifles at great prices. It's also a great resource for TRADITIONAL muzzleloading. They'll run you out of there if you even mention an inline or any type of modern projectile.

Re: Best Muzzleloaders [Re: BamaGrad85] #2802806
05/08/19 11:31 AM
05/08/19 11:31 AM
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Columbia, SC
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I have a Traditions Pursuit that I got for around 350 with a stock 3x9 scope and it’s a fun shooting/easy to clean muzzleloader. If you’re just getting into it, I’d look for one with a removable breech plug. Makes life a lot easier after you shoot. I’m looking to graduate to the traditional stuff eventually but at the current moment, what I have can and will get the job done.

Re: Best Muzzleloaders [Re: BamaGrad85] #2802818
05/08/19 11:49 AM
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HSV AL
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TC in the classifieds.

Click me

Save $275 for corn and feeders rofl

Last edited by jmudler; 05/08/19 11:51 AM.

Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
Re: Best Muzzleloaders [Re: square] #2802916
05/08/19 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by square
CVA Accura - Bergara barrels are better than any anything Thompson sells.


Bold statement.

I was pretty happy with MOA @200 over 209 powder with a Pro Hunter. Should I sell it and get a CVA? Maybe I should go back to shooting round balls while I'm at it.

I would buy a CVA though. Nothing wrong with them.


Re: Best Muzzleloaders [Re: Goatkiller] #2802950
05/08/19 02:56 PM
05/08/19 02:56 PM
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Posts: 290
Collierville, TN, Shelby
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I just had a bad experience with a T/C. and the quality controls on their extra barrels which caused problems with the ML barrel when I tried to correct the issues with the extra barrel. The big issue was their customer service attitude that nothing was wrong. My CVA has performed flawlessly from day one. Years of experience with CVA from the cheapest models up to the Accura have been nothing but positive. Dependable and very accurate.

Re: Best Muzzleloaders [Re: BamaGrad85] #2802979
05/08/19 03:43 PM
05/08/19 03:43 PM
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Anniston, AL
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Anniston, AL
I had a CVA Accura, and it was nice, no complaints. I sold that gun, and now have a CVA Optima with the thumbhole stock. I'm 101% satisfied.
You can buy an Optima AND a darn nice scope for somewhat less than $500.


We were on the edge of Eternia, when the power of Greyskull began to take hold.
Re: Best Muzzleloaders [Re: BamaGrad85] #2803146
05/08/19 08:22 PM
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Hollywood, Alabama; Jackson Co...
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I am kind of fond of my Knight Ultra light. I have holes touching at 150. Only weights 6 pounds before scope.


All you need to know is. Dead deer don't grow!
Re: Best Muzzleloaders [Re: Bustinbeards] #2803663
05/09/19 02:58 PM
05/09/19 02:58 PM
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In a Van, down by the River
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Originally Posted by Bustinbeards
Tc encore pro hunter



Yep!


Life is a journey. Make sure and bring plenty of Beer.
Re: Best Muzzleloaders [Re: BamaGrad85] #2803667
05/09/19 03:07 PM
05/09/19 03:07 PM
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Thomasville, AL
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I have a CVA Accura V2 LR that paid only slightly more than your budget price for that I love. It is a fine shooting gun that has been the demise of several fine bucks the past couple of years. And, based on the number of people who have borrowed it to take on mid-West hunts, I must not be the only one that thinks so!

Re: Best Muzzleloaders [Re: BamaGrad85] #2803677
05/09/19 03:13 PM
05/09/19 03:13 PM
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Clay co
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Love my encore and all I have to do is swap barrels to go from a muzzleloader to a center fire rifle

Re: Best Muzzleloaders [Re: BamaGrad85] #2803704
05/09/19 03:41 PM
05/09/19 03:41 PM
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Athens, GA
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CVA with Bergara barrel is the way I would go.


Micah 6:8
Re: Best Muzzleloaders [Re: BamaGrad85] #2804011
05/09/19 08:11 PM
05/09/19 08:11 PM
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Limestone County
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I have owned Knight, Thompson and CVA. My current muzzleloader is a CVA Apex with a Begera barrel and Thompson Omega. I sold my CVA Optima to my son, both CVAs shoot better than I can. The Thompson Omega is a good shooter also, but I'd probably give a slight edge to the Apex. The quick release breech plug is really nice, something my Omega and old Knight didn't have. I really believe the muzzleloader market is much like the center fire market, there are some really accurate guns for not a lot of money. I definitely recommend getting something that shoots blackhorn 209 powder, it is a game changer when it comes to barrel fouling. For a all-in budget of $500 you can come up with a good combo.

Re: Best Muzzleloaders [Re: Cousneddy] #2804067
05/09/19 08:53 PM
05/09/19 08:53 PM
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Northeast Florida
BamaGrad85 Offline OP
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Originally Posted by Cousneddy
I have owned Knight, Thompson and CVA. My current muzzleloader is a CVA Apex with a Begera barrel and Thompson Omega. I sold my CVA Optima to my son, both CVAs shoot better than I can. The Thompson Omega is a good shooter also, but I'd probably give a slight edge to the Apex. The quick release breech plug is really nice, something my Omega and old Knight didn't have. I really believe the muzzleloader market is much like the center fire market, there are some really accurate guns for not a lot of money. I definitely recommend getting something that shoots blackhorn 209 powder, it is a game changer when it comes to barrel fouling. For a all-in budget of $500 you can come up with a good combo.


It would actually be for gun only. I have an old Nikon 3x9x40 prostaff I can put on it. I hear and have read that TC Impact is a good starter muzzle loader. Does anyone have one? What are your thoughts?


I came, I saw, so I killed them all......Vern
Re: Best Muzzleloaders [Re: BamaGrad85] #2804382
05/10/19 09:40 AM
05/10/19 09:40 AM
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Birmingham, AL
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Oh yeah, I forgot to suggest these guys:

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Re: Best Muzzleloaders [Re: BamaGrad85] #2805268
05/11/19 04:16 PM
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I've had many, including an Encore. I currently have a TC Omega that I will never part with

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