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Re: Feeding Protein during turkey season...
[Re: Big Jack]
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02/05/12 06:15 PM
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Question, why would you want to feed pellets in the spring anyhow?? Plenty of natural browse then and a mineral lick, which is much less costly, would provide more minerals and would not be a turkey attractant. Rule of thumb, as soon as bucks cast antlers they need about 18% protein and less carbs while antlers are growing. Soon as they shead velvet, they need less protein, bout 8% but high carbs (high fat) through fall and winter till casting time again. Hard to get that magic 18% from only natural browse. 18% would be if you want max antler growth for the full antler growing season. Good article about this in QDMA mag a couple months ago.
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Re: Feeding Protein during turkey season...
[Re: 2Dogs]
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02/06/12 08:30 AM
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Question, why would you want to feed pellets in the spring anyhow?? Plenty of natural browse then and a mineral lick, which is much less costly, would provide more minerals and would not be a turkey attractant. Rule of thumb, as soon as bucks cast antlers they need about 18% protein and less carbs while antlers are growing. Soon as they shead velvet, they need less protein, bout 8% but high carbs (high fat) through fall and winter till casting time again. Hard to get that magic 18% from only natural browse. 18% would be if you want max antler growth for the full antler growing season. Good article about this in QDMA mag a couple months ago. Notice I said "mineral lick". I keep the trophy rock and other minerals on the ground, year round. Clem, in most if not all of Alabama "green up" comes before or very shortly after "antler shed". I spend a lot of time peeping through greened up bushes at antlered deer while turkey hunting.
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Re: Feeding Protein during turkey season...
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02/06/12 10:09 AM
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Guess we're thread hijackers, but you're not going to get the protein needed for MAX antler growth from a mineral block. Also natural brows will only do so much. First year or two after logging or burn brows is high in protein then starts tapering off. I guess someone will correct me if I'm wrong. Heck, on here you get corrected if you're right! You are exactly correct. In fact, you're not going to get the "Minerals" needed for maximum antler growth from a mineral block. They can't consume enough. Mix a complete "loose" mineral 50/50 with either soybean meal or peanut meal and feed it free choice. The minerals will act as a limiter and they will get all the protein and minerals they need................ The protein aids in digestion and they can eat more available forage also.
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Re: Feeding Protein during turkey season...
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02/06/12 11:09 AM
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Listen.. Spoiler wasnt asking if it is bennificial to feed deer protien in the spring.. I think by now, he knows what is good or not.. I will restart this thread to the top with the initial question. Is it legal to feed protien pellets to deer in a trough style system during turkey season? If it is not legal, what is the minnimmum distance that you can legally turkey hunt with feed on the ground?
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Re: Feeding Protein during turkey season...
[Re: bamagun12]
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02/06/12 11:29 AM
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Listen.. Spoiler wasnt asking if it is bennificial to feed deer protien in the spring.. I think by now, he knows what is good or not.. I will restart this thread to the top with the initial question. Is it legal to feed protien pellets to deer in a trough style system during turkey season? If it is not legal, what is the minnimmum distance that you can legally turkey hunt with feed on the ground? No. It is not legal. There is no minimum distance. Don't give a Game Warden reason to believe your using the bait as an aid in harvesting a turkey and you'll be fine.
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Re: Feeding Protein during turkey season...
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02/06/12 04:04 PM
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So your telling me there is no minimum distance to hunt when there is bait on your property?
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Re: Feeding Protein during turkey season...
[Re: 04 Spoiler]
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02/06/12 06:50 PM
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One more time.....
it's bait if yer too close to it....
the law/regs don't mention any minimum distance....
If yer sitting 50 yards away yer illegal
if you are 1/2 mile away yer ok
GW has to be able to show you knew it was there or should of known it was there....
I can't give you a minimum distance but a little common sense will go a long way here.....talk to your local GW and get his opinion.
troy
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Re: Feeding Protein during turkey season...
[Re: 04 Spoiler]
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02/07/12 04:58 PM
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Thanks Troy.. I think I may have been assuming that since the "florida state law" is 100 yards for bait when turkey hunting then there "must" be a logical number the alabama folks have came up with.. I guess this ole state is a little behind on the times.. Sorry for the confusion..
Thanks again
Chris
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Re: Feeding Protein during turkey season...
[Re: HOWTON21]
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02/08/12 08:36 AM
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Listen.. Spoiler wasnt asking if it is bennificial to feed deer protien in the spring.. I think by now, he knows what is good or not.. I will restart this thread to the top with the initial question. Is it legal to feed protien pellets to deer in a trough style system during turkey season? If it is not legal, what is the minnimmum distance that you can legally turkey hunt with feed on the ground? No. It is not legal. There is no minimum distance. Don't give a Game Warden reason to believe your using the bait as an aid in harvesting a turkey and you'll be fine. And that's what we're gonna do Caleb... Are you going up to your place this weekend ? Wanna try to get up with you before turkey season if possible and maybe go look at yall's place...
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Re: Feeding Protein during turkey season...
[Re: 04 Spoiler]
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02/08/12 09:30 AM
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Listen.. Spoiler wasnt asking if it is bennificial to feed deer protien in the spring.. I think by now, he knows what is good or not.. I will restart this thread to the top with the initial question. Is it legal to feed protien pellets to deer in a trough style system during turkey season? If it is not legal, what is the minnimmum distance that you can legally turkey hunt with feed on the ground? No. It is not legal. There is no minimum distance. Don't give a Game Warden reason to believe your using the bait as an aid in harvesting a turkey and you'll be fine. And that's what we're gonna do Caleb... Are you going up to your place this weekend ? Wanna try to get up with you before turkey season if possible and maybe go look at yall's place... Won't be there this weekend. I'll be there on the 18th doing a little turkey scouting and near about every weekend after until the end of April.
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