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Re: CWD Found in Alabama / Tennessee line [Re: Chad T] #2731558
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Over 180 cases confirmed in three counties so far.


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Re: CWD Found in Alabama / Tennessee line [Re: Ant67] #2732955
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Originally Posted by Ant67
Anybody heard about the sick buck on Chapman mountain in Huntsville?


I'd like to hear more about this.


I firmly believe that a double gallows should be constructed on the East Lawn of The White House. Politicians who willfully and shamelessly violate their oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America should be swiftly tried and, upon conviction, publicly hanged at sunup the day after conviction. If multiple convicts are to be hanged they can choose with whom to share the gallows or names shall be drawn from the hangman's hat to be hanged 2 at a time.




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Re: CWD Found in Alabama / Tennessee line [Re: Chad T] #2733143
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This is some bad stuff
It’s coming thanks for the great information


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Re: CWD Found in Alabama / Tennessee line [Re: Chad T] #2733197
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I'm hoping that it don't cross from McNairy County into Hardin. Maybe that wide river to cross will help keep that from happening. Our lease is in Hardin County and I'll still hunt but I doubt that I'll eat any venison from there if we end up with it.


I firmly believe that a double gallows should be constructed on the East Lawn of The White House. Politicians who willfully and shamelessly violate their oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America should be swiftly tried and, upon conviction, publicly hanged at sunup the day after conviction. If multiple convicts are to be hanged they can choose with whom to share the gallows or names shall be drawn from the hangman's hat to be hanged 2 at a time.




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Re: CWD Found in Alabama / Tennessee line [Re: Chad T] #2733403
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Right there with you Wiley. We hunt mostly in Wayne Co, some in Lawrence Co TN. Scary to think about it only being a couple counties west.

Re: CWD Found in Alabama / Tennessee line [Re: Chad T] #2733542
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At a legislative hearing in Minnesota on Thursday:

“Michael Osterholm, director for the U’s Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy who sat on a panel of experts tracking the emergence of mad cow disease, or BSE, decades ago, told lawmakers this:

“It is my best professional judgment based on my public health experience and the risk of BSE transmission to humans in the 1980s and 1990s and my extensive review and evaluation of laboratory research studies … that it is probable that human cases of CWD associated with the consumption of contaminated meat will be documented in the years ahead. It is possible that number of human cases will be substantial and will not be isolated events.”

The Article


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Re: CWD Found in Alabama / Tennessee line [Re: Chad T] #2733605
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I have always believed that what Osterholm is saying will be proven to be true.


I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....

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Re: CWD Found in Alabama / Tennessee line [Re: BhamFred] #2733606
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Originally Posted by BhamFred
I have always believed that what Osterholm is saying will be proven to be true.


You going to keep eating deer?

Re: CWD Found in Alabama / Tennessee line [Re: Chad T] #2733636
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hell no.


I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....

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Re: CWD Found in Alabama / Tennessee line [Re: Chad T] #2733642
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Does this mean outback and James have MMD(MAD MAN DISEASE)??????? slap I really don't think James got it from deer meat since he can't kill any. rofl


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Re: CWD Found in Alabama / Tennessee line [Re: Chad T] #2733650
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Wow, yall got me thinking it is not worth it to eat deer meat now, and that is mainly what we eat.

I hunt for food...I dont buy meat. I eat deer meat instead of beef , wild boar for pork, wild turkey for poultry, and wild fish we have caught.

I will give up deer hunting I think if the problem is as bad as it is being portrayed on here.

Re: CWD Found in Alabama / Tennessee line [Re: BhamFred] #2733651
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Originally Posted by BhamFred
I have always believed that what Osterholm is saying will be proven to be true.


Same here.

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Re: CWD Found in Alabama / Tennessee line [Re: Chad T] #2733701
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I'll continue to eat venison from central and south Alabama till CWD is found closer to me, but then I will quit. Cwd won't kill me (I'm 68) but I won't feed it to my children/grandchildren.


I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....

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Re: CWD Found in Alabama / Tennessee line [Re: ] #2734881
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Originally Posted by outdoorobsession
Wow, yall got me thinking it is not worth it to eat deer meat now, and that is mainly what we eat.

I hunt for food...I dont buy meat. I eat deer meat instead of beef , wild boar for pork, wild turkey for poultry, and wild fish we have caught.

I will give up deer hunting I think if the problem is as bad as it is being portrayed on here.


So you're saying you eat poultry like 3 times a year? I'm not sure if I'm impressed or sad for you.

Re: CWD Found in Alabama / Tennessee line [Re: leroycnbucks] #2735137
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Originally Posted by leroycnbucks
I saw that on Keith Warrens show last night Donald. Pretty interesting and very well may be the answer one day.


Yep, it's interesting but I'll quit deer hunting if I have to shoot a "free-range in the big pen" (a little play on words from that "great white hunter") buck bred in a pen and turned loose behind a fence. Give me a 120" free range in the woods over a 180" pen raised eating a pile of Walmart deer corn.

Keith Warren..... I don't know the man but I could not support that industry like he does and feel good about myself. May ruffle some feathers but killing a 180"+ buck that's been bred and raised by humans isn't hunting. IMO.

Back to CWD... I'd support cutting his testicles off if a deer farmer gets caught transporting deer across state lines.

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Re: CWD Found in Alabama / Tennessee line [Re: Thefofive] #2740125
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Originally Posted by Thefofive
Originally Posted by leroycnbucks
I saw that on Keith Warrens show last night Donald. Pretty interesting and very well may be the answer one day.


Yep, it's interesting but I'll quit deer hunting if I have to shoot a "free-range in the big pen" (a little play on words from that "great white hunter") buck bred in a pen and turned loose behind a fence. Give me a 120" free range in the woods over a 180" pen raised eating a pile of Walmart deer corn.

Keith Warren..... I don't know the man but I could not support that industry like he does and feel good about myself. May ruffle some feathers but killing a 180"+ buck that's been bred and raised by humans isn't hunting. IMO.

Back to CWD... I'd support cutting his testicles off if a deer farmer gets caught transporting deer across state lines.

I don't think any is asking you to go hunt in a high fence This is America You have the right to hunt on either side of the fence . Question for you ? Have you ever fished in a pond or a lake ? Tell me the difference ?? They raise the fish to a certain size and put the fish in the pond or lake for a sportsman to enjoy Maybe you have, maybe you have not. Point is every hunter or fisherman enjoys their hunt or fishing trip with out being judged by someone else by the way they hunt . You started somewhere didn't you

Re: CWD Found in Alabama / Tennessee line [Re: Chad T] #2740361
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I don’t think anyone is arguing that a man doesn’t have the right to shoot deer in a pen, hvfs118. However, if you look at all the various definition of “hunting” in the major dictionaries, shooting a deer in a high fence operation fits more closely to farming than hunting. I would argue that it’s not a hunt by accepted definitions. A high fence shooter where deer have been raised and stocked presents the shooter with the opportunity to harvest the crop. It’s something different than hunting and the sporting nature of hunting, more of a simulated hunt than a true sporting endeavor. Albeit you can argue that modern advances have taken some of the sport out of hunting. Nevertheless, there’s an important difference between the two.

The definition of fishing is inclusive for stocked ponds and wild ponds alike. I guess at the end of the day fish kinda make the final decision in the matter unlike your standard high fence operation. That’s an important distinction as well. Still I would ageree that dropping a 10 lb bass in a pond and catching it out is not the same, though I am unaware of this happening anywhere.


You seem to be taking issue with the free speech rights of a couple of posters above to call out high fence operations. Thats’s where you get the mud on their face. You have a right to shoot deer in a pen. They have a right to call it pathetic and distinguish as different from their manner of hunting. . What does it really matter if you are ok with it. If, on the other hand, you want to be broadly accepted by the hunting circles then go kill that 150 inch buck on public land instead of the pen.

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Re: CWD Found in Alabama / Tennessee line [Re: Chad T] #2740409
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Looks like a fellow from LSU has discovered the cure to CWD. Turns out it’s a bacterial infection and the prions are a side effect not the cause of the desease. Now we can find something else to argue about I guess.

https://www.facebook.com/261852623934229/posts/2010704925715648/

I’m just passing this along. Sure seems legit and promising but I guess these days who knows.

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This is not new research, study was from 8 years ago and no one has been able to replicate his research.

I would gladly eat some crow if that’s the cure. Maybe he really is Will Smith sitting in a basement discovering the cure to the zombie apocalypse on his own but I doubt it. But I would differ to the bulk of all the respected scientists in the world, no one has bit on this theory. In fact the only scientific articles I can find on this theory are published by, you guessed it, the same guy, frank bastian.

They made that announcement look awfully like a state sanctioned piece when it wasn’t . They even had the podium which is why I even looked it up. Turns out that was a presentation put forward by The United Sportsmen of Pennsylvania, (who paid for the research) and one state senator, wRepresentative David Maloney (R-Berks) who held a half-hour press conference at the capital on their own accord. Y’all make your own opinions on that. Also funny that he comes claiming the this discovery at the exact same time every major news media on the country starting reporting on possible health concerns, even the opposing duo of CNN and FOX. It’s like Deer and Deer hunting magazine running their recent article of a “recent study” showing no human health risks based on data from 17 years ago.


Boiled down they claim that a bacteria causes prions as a byproduct and this is why people thought it was caused by prions. . The major flaw is that how is it that you can isolate the prions and then the prions cause more cwd, even in the absence of said bacteria. How can you heat these prions to absurd levels and they still cause CWD in absence of bacteria. If these bacteria are everywhere then why is CWD spreading across the county in prevalence.

This reminds of the press conference given in Great Britain where the official said BSE was not a health concern and had his daughter eat a steak on tv. Later a friend of the daughter died of BSE, aka mad cow.

















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Re: CWD Found in Alabama / Tennessee line [Re: Cynical] #2740523
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Originally Posted by Cynical
Originally Posted by outdoorobsession
Wow, yall got me thinking it is not worth it to eat deer meat now, and that is mainly what we eat.

I hunt for food...I dont buy meat. I eat deer meat instead of beef , wild boar for pork, wild turkey for poultry, and wild fish we have caught.

I will give up deer hunting I think if the problem is as bad as it is being portrayed on here.


So you're saying you eat poultry like 3 times a year? I'm not sure if I'm impressed or sad for you.


Im a turkey killer buddy. So, More then 3 times a year.

You must have a hard time with them I guess.

There has been years where I shot 15 in different states...2 breasts each..thats 30 turkey breasts in individual zip lock baggies , me and my wife living alone. One big old gobbler breast is enough for both of us with a little left over.

Dont be sad for me...Ill be all right. smile

Thanks for your concern though. The real concern is what will I eat if I cant eat deer meat. Thats what worries us. I put in 2 a year usually. I might have to actually buy beef. My wife said to me..Oh wow...this is going to cost us more isnt it? I told her....what? you see what I spend deer hunting. Heck no..it will save us a fortune! slap

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