A conversation with Skullworks got me to searching online for some Damascus knife blanks just to play around with since I still don't have my forge set-up to make another knife. So anyway, just searching around on the innerwebz and I came across this little jewel for dirt cheap, like Chinese pocket knife dirt cheap. The reviews were really good, but I thought, "No way they can be producing a knife for this cheap and: 1. It be real Damascus 2. Be even remotely decently put together. But yet hear it is...
Now before you say, "Hey Irish, you dumbass, it's just etched." Um... no it ain't I have thoroughly inspected it with a jewelers loupe. I did a couple of swipes on my Crock sticks and it's shaving.
And I will say, it's no Skullworks knife either, his knives are hand crafted and having made my own knife, I can assure you they are worth every penny of what he is selling them for, plus you are getting a knife that is made by a local craftsman.
The main reason I bought this knife was to have a beater knife and to just see if it was for real. I am fully aware that it is probably made by Muslim slave children and that's why it is so inexpensive, but nonetheless I am kind of astonished at the craftsmanship that it has at such a low price point. The steel is supposed to be AN-9013, but I haven't conducted any kind of hardness test on it yet.
The decorative jinking on the spine is a nice artistic touch and having done it before on my knife, it is not an easy task. The pictures really don't do it justice.
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Re: Damascus from Pakistan...
[Re: Irishguy]
#2711133 01/19/1911:49 AM01/19/1911:49 AM
I’ve always wanted to get one to see how well they perform. The biggest questions are always “How do you know if they used the steels they say?” and “How well does the edge hold up?” I’m looking forward to you testing so I can see how well it holds an edge!
"I'm not near as critical about how big they are as I once was. Smiles are more important now! We will grow more deer." Jimmy G.
Re: Damascus from Pakistan...
[Re: Irishguy]
#2711173 01/19/1912:45 PM01/19/1912:45 PM
There are a lot of really nice quality dental instruments that come out of Pakistan for super cheap. We bought a bunch to take on mission trips years ago.
Re: Damascus from Pakistan...
[Re: Irishguy]
#2711176 01/19/1912:50 PM01/19/1912:50 PM
I’ve always wanted to get one to see how well they perform. The biggest questions are always “How do you know if they used the steels they say?” and “How well does the edge hold up?” I’m looking forward to you testing so I can see how well it holds an edge!
Those were my questions as well, which is the reason i was willing to chunk $40 away to find out...
I'm going to have to do a slight bit of work on the handle. It would be fine if I was left handed, but there needs to be a little more material taken off the index finger groove. i think one of the reviewers on Amazon pretty much said the same thing.
So far so good otherwise.
Re: Damascus from Pakistan...
[Re: jb20]
#2711188 01/19/1901:08 PM01/19/1901:08 PM
I wouldn’t trust that steel being what they say it is for anything. For what they sell for you can barely get straight bar stock. I suspect you bought some different contrasting pot metal . Looks decent, though. Let us know how it works out.
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Re: Damascus from Pakistan...
[Re: Irishguy]
#2711222 01/19/1901:39 PM01/19/1901:39 PM
What I want is a Roselli UHC hunter blade. HRC 64-66 and not brittle.
The Damascus is good to look at but I would think these are better quality blades on this page for just as cheap. That Roselli blade is only $75. https://www.ragweedforge.com/BladeCatalog.html
Re: Damascus from Pakistan...
[Re: R_H_Clark]
#2711230 01/19/1901:46 PM01/19/1901:46 PM
What I want is a Roselli UHC hunter blade. HRC 64-66 and not brittle.
The Damascus is good to look at but I would think these are better quality blades on this page for just as cheap. That Roselli blade is only $75. https://www.ragweedforge.com/BladeCatalog.html
Those Scandinavia blades are wicked sharp!
"I'm not near as critical about how big they are as I once was. Smiles are more important now! We will grow more deer." Jimmy G.
Re: Damascus from Pakistan...
[Re: Skullworks]
#2711240 01/19/1902:07 PM01/19/1902:07 PM
What I want is a Roselli UHC hunter blade. HRC 64-66 and not brittle.
The Damascus is good to look at but I would think these are better quality blades on this page for just as cheap. That Roselli blade is only $75. https://www.ragweedforge.com/BladeCatalog.html
Those Scandinavia blades are wicked sharp!
I'll tell you for sure that a $10 Mora Carbon steel blade will really shame a lot of expensive customs as far as ease of sharpening, and level of sharpness easily attained. I could use nothing else the rest of my life and be very happy with my knife.
Re: Damascus from Pakistan...
[Re: R_H_Clark]
#2711259 01/19/1902:47 PM01/19/1902:47 PM
What I want is a Roselli UHC hunter blade. HRC 64-66 and not brittle.
The Damascus is good to look at but I would think these are better quality blades on this page for just as cheap. That Roselli blade is only $75. https://www.ragweedforge.com/BladeCatalog.html
Those Scandinavia blades are wicked sharp!
I'll tell you for sure that a $10 Mora Carbon steel blade will really shame a lot of expensive customs as far as ease of sharpening, and level of sharpness easily attained. I could use nothing else the rest of my life and be very happy with my knife.
I have used the blades and nothing is as sharp as they are out of the box. I also have some fallkniven knives. Very nice!
"I'm not near as critical about how big they are as I once was. Smiles are more important now! We will grow more deer." Jimmy G.
Re: Damascus from Pakistan...
[Re: Irishguy]
#2711270 01/19/1902:56 PM01/19/1902:56 PM
That's real cool Skullworks. I don't make many knives at all anymore but that's why I started doing hidden tangs. The best blades I could find back then were the Scandinavian style. I have a couple Helle laminated blades here and a couple others that get used a lot.
I'm going to get one of those Roselli UHC blades just because the composition and hardness intrigue me. It's being said that Roselli has rediscovered the famed Wootz steel,which is why I remembered that blade, this being a thread about Damascus.
Re: Damascus from Pakistan...
[Re: R_H_Clark]
#2711284 01/19/1903:06 PM01/19/1903:06 PM
What I want is a Roselli UHC hunter blade. HRC 64-66 and not brittle.
The Damascus is good to look at but I would think these are better quality blades on this page for just as cheap. That Roselli blade is only $75. https://www.ragweedforge.com/BladeCatalog.html
"I'm sorry the store is currently closed due to some health issues. I'll update and/or reopen when I can."
I like those blades, however almost all of them that I like are "Out of Stock." and then there's the above message...
Re: Damascus from Pakistan...
[Re: R_H_Clark]
#2711287 01/19/1903:07 PM01/19/1903:07 PM
What I want is a Roselli UHC hunter blade. HRC 64-66 and not brittle.
The Damascus is good to look at but I would think these are better quality blades on this page for just as cheap. That Roselli blade is only $75. https://www.ragweedforge.com/BladeCatalog.html
Those Scandinavia blades are wicked sharp!
I'll tell you for sure that a $10 Mora Carbon steel blade will really shame a lot of expensive customs as far as ease of sharpening, and level of sharpness easily attained. I could use nothing else the rest of my life and be very happy with my knife.
I have a Morakniv that rides in my Jeep. It's always there. Best cheap knife you can buy.
Re: Damascus from Pakistan...
[Re: Irishguy]
#2711303 01/19/1903:24 PM01/19/1903:24 PM
What I want is a Roselli UHC hunter blade. HRC 64-66 and not brittle.
The Damascus is good to look at but I would think these are better quality blades on this page for just as cheap. That Roselli blade is only $75. https://www.ragweedforge.com/BladeCatalog.html
"I'm sorry the store is currently closed due to some health issues. I'll update and/or reopen when I can."
I like those blades, however almost all of them that I like are "Out of Stock." and then there's the above message...
There's lost of sources. That was just the first place I grabbed.
We'll see about this Pakistani blade....mine will be here Monday....
I wasn't encouraging anyone to actually buy one.
I know...when you want to talk about another level of blade and steel, let's talk about Japanese swords...I;ve been studying them for decades...I am a blade fanatic too, and hope this is a decent Damascus, if not, no problem!
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Re: Damascus from Pakistan...
[Re: Irishguy]
#2711693 01/19/1909:11 PM01/19/1909:11 PM
I don’t know how good the steel is on them but Woodcraft has knife kits with a blade and you get some scrap wood from them and shape the scales. The sheaths are weak. Woodcraft
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Re: Damascus from Pakistan...
[Re: Irishguy]
#2711713 01/19/1909:28 PM01/19/1909:28 PM
We'll see about this Pakistani blade....mine will be here Monday....
I wasn't encouraging anyone to actually buy one.
I think it's pretty cool! Like the knife,was just as you said. The sheath is kinda junky and I think the belt loop will break eventually or the knife would fall out given half a chance, but I'm happy!
"For the Truth the Turkey is in Comparison a much more respectable Bird, and withal a true original Native of America" ~Benjamin Franklin
Seems very reasonable given he forges his own blades.
I started watching this guy last week or so. He does swords too.
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Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
Re: Damascus from Pakistan...
[Re: Irishguy]
#2715466 01/23/1901:23 PM01/23/1901:23 PM
While people are talking knives, can someone explain to me why Falkniven brand knives are so crazy expensive ? I know they are really well made, from really good steel,... but good grief. Am I missing something ?
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Re: Damascus from Pakistan...
[Re: BPI]
#2715468 01/23/1901:25 PM01/23/1901:25 PM
While people are talking knives, can someone explain to me why Falkniven brand knives are so crazy expensive ? I know they are really well made, from really good steel,... but good grief. Am I missing something ?
Speaking of good blades fro the money.. Essee brands are hard to beat.
Re: Damascus from Pakistan...
[Re: BPI]
#2715474 01/23/1901:36 PM01/23/1901:36 PM
While people are talking knives, can someone explain to me why Falkniven brand knives are so crazy expensive ? I know they are really well made, from really good steel,... but good grief. Am I missing something ?
People will pay it. Same as Randall Knives or any of the other high end makes.
"I'm not near as critical about how big they are as I once was. Smiles are more important now! We will grow more deer." Jimmy G.
Re: Damascus from Pakistan...
[Re: Skullworks]
#2715491 01/23/1901:48 PM01/23/1901:48 PM
While people are talking knives, can someone explain to me why Falkniven brand knives are so crazy expensive ? I know they are really well made, from really good steel,... but good grief. Am I missing something ?
People will pay it. Same as Randall Knives or any of the other high end makes.
I've got a big belt grinder (not a sander the real deal) a bunch of different contact wheels and a surface grinder setup to also run on the belts... if anyone is feeling lucky you can ruin a lot of blanks, which you'll have to cut out and bring with you - real quick. Takes a good eye for it which I don't have.... but you can make a blade no problem.
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Re: Damascus from Pakistan...
[Re: BPI]
#2715637 01/23/1904:24 PM01/23/1904:24 PM
While people are talking knives, can someone explain to me why Falkniven brand knives are so crazy expensive ? I know they are really well made, from really good steel,... but good grief. Am I missing something ?
A lot of their knives are laminated steel with a hard center and softer sides. It gives you a thin center that's easier to sharpen because it's thinner and the sandwich steel is softer. The sandwich steel protects the harder center which would likely be brittle if it weren't as thin as it is. At least that's the theory. It may just be a cheaper way to make something good. Whatever it is,it costs a bit more.
I don't own the Fallkniven but have bought and made knives using Helle's laminated steel,and I do like it better than plain carbon steel. A laminated blade use to cost me about $40 compared to $10 for one in carbon steel.
Re: Damascus from Pakistan...
[Re: Goatkiller]
#2715762 01/23/1906:50 PM01/23/1906:50 PM
I've got a big belt grinder (not a sander the real deal) a bunch of different contact wheels and a surface grinder setup to also run on the belts... if anyone is feeling lucky you can ruin a lot of blanks, which you'll have to cut out and bring with you - real quick. Takes a good eye for it which I don't have.... but you can make a blade no problem.
Have you seen the jigs you can use to help grind the bevel? I am part gathering to start my 2x72 grinder and a jig will be on the list to make.
Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
Re: Damascus from Pakistan...
[Re: Irishguy]
#2716290 01/24/1909:24 AM01/24/1909:24 AM
Which blade is which? Pakistani Damascus, Skullworks Damascus, Made in UK mass produced Damascus
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Re: Damascus from Pakistan...
[Re: jmudler]
#2716310 01/24/1909:42 AM01/24/1909:42 AM
I've got a big belt grinder (not a sander the real deal) a bunch of different contact wheels and a surface grinder setup to also run on the belts... if anyone is feeling lucky you can ruin a lot of blanks, which you'll have to cut out and bring with you - real quick. Takes a good eye for it which I don't have.... but you can make a blade no problem.
Have you seen the jigs you can use to help grind the bevel? I am part gathering to start my 2x72 grinder and a jig will be on the list to make.
I know what you are referring to and have never tried to use one myself. I have always assumed they worked better for repeated patterns. I'll PM you I've got some info you might be interested in.
No government employees were harmed in the making of this mess.
Re: Damascus from Pakistan...
[Re: BCLC]
#2717360 01/25/1908:28 AM01/25/1908:28 AM
Which blade is which? Pakistani Damascus, Skullworks Damascus, Made in UK mass produced Damascus
Awesome knives there. All are great but the one in the center speaks to me.
That's the Pakistani blade. It looks great but I leave it on the shelf for looks. The U.K. blade (wider profile-micarta handle) is decent and handles nicely BUT the skullworks blade is a cut above the rest....from the quality of the Damascus used to the fit and finish and the overall balance of the knife. Top notch work per usual Clarence, thank you!
We’re not dead. We just smell that way. Dayum. - AC870
Yessir! I’m always gonna shoot what makes me happy and I want everyone else to do the same! If you shoot one be proud of it and don’t worry what anyone else thinks. - SJ22
Re: Damascus from Pakistan...
[Re: R_H_Clark]
#2721626 01/29/1910:45 AM01/29/1910:45 AM
While people are talking knives, can someone explain to me why Falkniven brand knives are so crazy expensive ? I know they are really well made, from really good steel,... but good grief. Am I missing something ?
A lot of their knives are laminated steel with a hard center and softer sides. It gives you a thin center that's easier to sharpen because it's thinner and the sandwich steel is softer. The sandwich steel protects the harder center which would likely be brittle if it weren't as thin as it is. At least that's the theory. It may just be a cheaper way to make something good. Whatever it is,it costs a bit more.
I don't own the Fallkniven but have bought and made knives using Helle's laminated steel,and I do like it better than plain carbon steel. A laminated blade use to cost me about $40 compared to $10 for one in carbon steel.
Laminate or San Mai ( I believe ) are more expensive, but I wasn't aware that Falkniven's were laminate. I will check that out. Even so, my goodness those things are high for a non-custom, semi-mass produced knife.