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60 acres of Ag vs. 60 acres of pines #2672374
12/14/18 08:45 AM
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Looking at a piece of property that's roughly 120 acres of which 60 is currently in Ag fields. The rest of it is mostly hardwood/pine natural regrowth, more on the hardwood side. In talking with the listing agent, I was asking about the Ag fields and how I would be using it for hunting primarily and not sure if I would want to keep it that way. There is a farmer that has been leasing it forever that does the standard rotation on the fields. It is still a very huntable piece of property with the fields there. So my question is, would you keep it in Ag fields and let the farmer keep farming on it or would you carve out some plots and have pines planted over the 60 acres?

Re: 60 acres of Ag vs. 60 acres of pines [Re: hallb] #2672378
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I'd let the guy keep farming it. Collect rent. Win win for wildlife,you and him


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Re: 60 acres of Ag vs. 60 acres of pines [Re: hallb] #2672391
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When he plant soybeans you'll kill bigger deer and see more deer in anytime and the good part is you'll have 60 Acres of soybeans that you got paid for when he plants cotton you'll be SOL Id designate a couple Lanes on the edges of the fields to plant for the deer for those years but let him keep farming it

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Re: 60 acres of Ag vs. 60 acres of pines [Re: 257wbymag] #2672398
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Originally Posted by 257wbymag
I'd let the guy keep farming it. Collect rent. Win win for wildlife,you and him

This ^^^ 60 acres of pines is still a good amount of timber and I wouldn't mess up a good ag feild thats paying


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Re: 60 acres of Ag vs. 60 acres of pines [Re: GKelly] #2672399
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Originally Posted by GKelly
When he plant soybeans you'll kill bigger deer and see more deer in anytime and the good part is you'll have 60 Acres of soybeans that you got paid for when he plants cotton you'll be SOL Id designate a couple Lanes on the edges of the fields to plant for the deer for those years but let him keep farming it


Yeah, there's corn there still standing this year which he took the insurance on b/c it was too wet I guess. Apparently did peanuts last year, next year is cotton I believe. The cotton years I'm not a fan of in terms of deer attraction. I would have a couple of lanes on the edges regardless, but for a lot of the fields, the edges are also the property lines.

Re: 60 acres of Ag vs. 60 acres of pines [Re: hallb] #2672403
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I love how folks think cotton is bad for deer. Deer eat the piss out of cotton. Have him mow lanes in the stalks after he picks but get up high. Deer love using standing cotton stalks for cover. Sounds like you found a jam up place really.


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Re: 60 acres of Ag vs. 60 acres of pines [Re: 257wbymag] #2672416
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Originally Posted by 257wbymag
I love how folks think cotton is bad for deer. Deer eat the piss out of cotton. Have him mow lanes in the stalks after he picks but get up high. Deer love using standing cotton stalks for cover. Sounds like you found a jam up place really.


And plant a cover crop in it.

Re: 60 acres of Ag vs. 60 acres of pines [Re: hallb] #2672419
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Deer are attracted to a cotton field almost the whole time the crop is growing. Deer come to a corn field when the plants are young and tender and again when the ears begin to droop. Cotton is actually a better deer attractant than corn to keep them on your place. Peanuts are better than cotton and soybeans are the best of the four mentioned IMHO.

Re: 60 acres of Ag vs. 60 acres of pines [Re: 257wbymag] #2672432
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Originally Posted by 257wbymag
I'd let the guy keep farming it. Collect rent. Win win for wildlife,you and him


100%

Also remember that Ag land converted to woods will never go back to Ag

Re: 60 acres of Ag vs. 60 acres of pines [Re: hallb] #2672433
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I knew the deer would eat the cotton when it was young and green and growing, but didn't know they would eat it once it started drying out and blooming or whatever it's called that cotton does smile

Re: 60 acres of Ag vs. 60 acres of pines [Re: hallb] #2672435
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Deer love cotton.

Re: 60 acres of Ag vs. 60 acres of pines [Re: hallb] #2672438
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Tell him you want it enrolled in the CSP and or EQUIP program too. That's where your cover crop/plots will com from!


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Re: 60 acres of Ag vs. 60 acres of pines [Re: hallb] #2672439
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I see you guys post all the time that deer love cotton....why in the hell don’t I ever see these mythical creatures in it?


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Re: 60 acres of Ag vs. 60 acres of pines [Re: hallb] #2672441
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Leave the ag alone. May be better off turning the other 60 into ag also


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Re: 60 acres of Ag vs. 60 acres of pines [Re: 257wbymag] #2672443
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Originally Posted by 257wbymag
I'd let the guy keep farming it. Collect rent. Win win for wildlife,you and him


This.

Re: 60 acres of Ag vs. 60 acres of pines [Re: hallb] #2672449
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If it’s in something you want like corn or beans you could also buy a couple acres from the farmer that he could leave standing for you. If you want green fields cut them out of the 60 acres of regen.

Re: 60 acres of Ag vs. 60 acres of pines [Re: hallb] #2672451
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Originally Posted by hallb
Looking at a piece of property that's roughly 120 acres of which 60 is currently in Ag fields. The rest of it is mostly hardwood/pine natural regrowth, more on the hardwood side. In talking with the listing agent, I was asking about the Ag fields and how I would be using it for hunting primarily and not sure if I would want to keep it that way. There is a farmer that has been leasing it forever that does the standard rotation on the fields. It is still a very huntable piece of property with the fields there. So my question is, would you keep it in Ag fields and let the farmer keep farming on it or would you carve out some plots and have pines planted over the 60 acres?

I would let him farm it for free, and ask him, in return to plant you a few acres of corn and soybeans just for the deer.


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Re: 60 acres of Ag vs. 60 acres of pines [Re: hallb] #2672453
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No sense in buying the standing crop just negotiate on the rent. Which is buying in a sense of the word. Plenty ways to get creative here


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Re: 60 acres of Ag vs. 60 acres of pines [Re: Remington270] #2672459
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Originally Posted by Remington270

Also remember that Ag land converted to woods will never go back to Ag


Not necessarily true. There is a local farmer here that is buying up land left and right in planted pines, clear cutting it, and converting it back to farm land.


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Re: 60 acres of Ag vs. 60 acres of pines [Re: hallb] #2672465
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Can be done. But it's not cheap. He'll be into that ground for $2k in just cleaning cost. That's before lime and fert and gonna be years before it's up to par on yield. Today's Ag economy doesn't bode well to be doing a lot of that but that can change I hope


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