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Re: Why did Gus accept a lower buyout? [Re: Remington270] #2665054
12/06/18 11:06 PM
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Gus probably ain’t as bad as we all make him out to be.
It ain’t easy when your 2 biggest rivals are juggernauts hitting on all cylinders.
Who you gonna hire if you fire Gus? How much time you going to give him to beat Bama and Georgia?


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Re: Why did Gus accept a lower buyout? [Re: charlie] #2665062
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Originally Posted by charlie
It's also possible they found a way around the buyout but it may not be simple and may involve lawsuits. A new deal may simplify it and could benefit both sides without lawyers making millions off the court battle. At least that's one of the rumors.


Truth

Re: Why did Gus accept a lower buyout? [Re: Remington270] #2665071
12/06/18 11:13 PM
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Yall constantly talk about what an idiot gus is then scratch your heads when he does something stupid. Hes an idiot, thats why he did it. Im really beginning to wonder about yall.

Re: Why did Gus accept a lower buyout? [Re: Remington270] #2665076
12/06/18 11:16 PM
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He's a fuuckig moron


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Re: Why did Gus accept a lower buyout? [Re: Remington270] #2665079
12/06/18 11:19 PM
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They had some dirt on Gus. Best for both sides to agree upon a new deal. He's gone after next year.

Re: Why did Gus accept a lower buyout? [Re: JDR4Bama] #2665166
12/07/18 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by AC870
Gus probably ain’t as bad as we all make him out to be.
It ain’t easy when your 2 biggest rivals are juggernauts hitting on all cylinders.
Who you gonna hire if you fire Gus? How much time you going to give him to beat Bama and Georgia?


Originally Posted by JDR4Bama
They had some dirt on Gus. Best for both sides to agree upon a new deal. He's gone after next year.


I think there it truth to both of these comments.

The problem with Auburn is Auburn. Not a particular head coach. Alabama had the same problem before Saban arrived. Auburn ain't going to get better until there is some kind of wholesale change.

As far as the second comment, I think this is highly likely and I have made almost the same comment when this rumor first came to light. The only reason that someone would give up a bunch of money and take a crappier deal is that the Auburn trustees, must have something to hang over his head. Nothing else is logical. And they're using this to get out of the full contract and keep Gus around until (in their mind) can find someone better. The problem is they aren't going to find someone better, because they can't keep their fingers out of the pie while the baker is trying to bake it.

Re: Why did Gus accept a lower buyout? [Re: Irishguy] #2665257
12/07/18 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Irishguy
Originally Posted by AC870
Gus probably ain’t as bad as we all make him out to be.
It ain’t easy when your 2 biggest rivals are juggernauts hitting on all cylinders.
Who you gonna hire if you fire Gus? How much time you going to give him to beat Bama and Georgia?


Originally Posted by JDR4Bama
They had some dirt on Gus. Best for both sides to agree upon a new deal. He's gone after next year.


I think there it truth to both of these comments.

The problem with Auburn is Auburn. Not a particular head coach. Alabama had the same problem before Saban arrived. Auburn ain't going to get better until there is some kind of wholesale change.

As far as the second comment, I think this is highly likely and I have made almost the same comment when this rumor first came to light. The only reason that someone would give up a bunch of money and take a crappier deal is that the Auburn trustees, must have something to hang over his head. Nothing else is logical. And they're using this to get out of the full contract and keep Gus around until (in their mind) can find someone better. The problem is they aren't going to find someone better, because they can't keep their fingers out of the pie while the baker is trying to bake it.


Good assessment....IMO AU doesn't need to follow a bad decision (Gus' contract) with another bad decision (Firing him without a better replacement)....it makes no sense to incur the significant buy-out cost without a homerun hire.....you are spot on about Bama being in the same position as AU prior to Saban's arrival......Bama finally got tired of being a middle of the pack team and eliminated the meddling.....Mal Moore had enough influence with the power brokers to make it happen

Re: Why did Gus accept a lower buyout? [Re: Remington270] #2665278
12/07/18 08:50 AM
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there are 2 sides to a buyout.

I believe it was written in there that if another team hired him in the 7 year period they owed Auburn like $6,000,000.

he wants to be a football coach, he knows Arkansas State or whoever will hire him cant come up with that.

Re: Why did Gus accept a lower buyout? [Re: Remington270] #2665318
12/07/18 09:13 AM
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There was a bunch of rumors around about Gus leaving/being fired/traded, but I never saw an official announcement that any of them were true. I think they want to get rid of him, but nobody is going to cut a 32 million check at auburn. Looks like they are going to be stuck with him at least one more year, meanwhile recruiting goes to hell. Maybe Kirby will hire him to draw up fake punts.

Re: Why did Gus accept a lower buyout? [Re: Remington270] #2665465
12/07/18 11:23 AM
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Hope Gus stays there forever 😁. Roll Tide!

Re: Why did Gus accept a lower buyout? [Re: Remington270] #2665594
12/07/18 02:09 PM
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I believe the “dirt on Gus” involves pictures of him and animals- male animals.


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Re: Why did Gus accept a lower buyout? [Re: Bud Meadows] #2665629
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Originally Posted by Bud Meadows
I believe the “dirt on Gus” involves pictures of him and animals- male animals.


Dang Bud, your dislike for Gus must be similar to 257's.

Re: Why did Gus accept a lower buyout? [Re: Remington270] #2666205
12/08/18 10:24 AM
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I don’t have a dislike for Gus- I just can’t believe the Trustees and former AD Jacobs gave him that obscene contract with a $32,000,000 buyout. The Trustees should all be fired for malpractice. Gus’ agent is a genius


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Re: Why did Gus accept a lower buyout? [Re: Remington270] #2666429
12/08/18 03:20 PM
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What Bud Meadows said. Don't hate Gus, he is smarter than Auburn.

Re: Why did Gus accept a lower buyout? [Re: Sasquatch Lives] #2668293
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Originally Posted by Sasquatch Lives
What Bud Meadows said. Don't hate Gus, his agent is smarter than Auburn.
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FIFY


"Cull" is just another four letter word...
Re: Why did Gus accept a lower buyout? [Re: Remington270] #2670812
12/12/18 08:11 PM
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If they promoted Kevin Steele to HC, wouldn't that be a step up?


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Re: Why did Gus accept a lower buyout? [Re: BamaGrad85] #2670924
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Originally Posted by BamaGrad85
If they promoted Kevin Steele to HC, wouldn't that be a step up?



Steele will be interim after the 4th or 5th game next year. We'll know then if he is better.

Re: Why did Gus accept a lower buyout? [Re: Bud Meadows] #2671106
12/13/18 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Bud Meadows
I don’t have a dislike for Gus- I just can’t believe the Trustees and former AD Jacobs gave him that obscene contract with a $32,000,000 buyout. The Trustees should all be fired for malpractice. Gus’ agent is a genius



Auburn has always been notorious for that. They will hand out a contract extension for a win over a rival in a hot minute and then it comes back to bite them in the ass. It happened with Tater Tot, Ears, Chiz Whiz, and now the Gus Bus. I don't know why they keep doing it but they do. Those guys get excited over November wins like no other and ignore the body of work which is an 8-4 average. They completely overlooked that the previous 3 season before he was 23-16 and 11-13 in the conference.

I don't say this to slam Auburn but some of their decision makers are suspect to say the least. I'm just still shocked that the Gus Bus survived the three season stretch after his initial year.


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Re: Why did Gus accept a lower buyout? [Re: BamaGrad85] #2671119
12/13/18 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by BamaGrad85
If they promoted Kevin Steele to HC, wouldn't that be a step up?


9-36 as HC

Re: Why did Gus accept a lower buyout? [Re: Remington270] #2671605
12/13/18 03:12 PM
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There has yet to be any confirmation that his contract has been re-nogotiated

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