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Re: New to Binos [Re: ALFisher] #2630029
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Originally Posted by ALFisher
I'm looking for some also. I can't justify spending what a pair of Swarovskis cost. Is there something mid-range - $500 or so that is good?


Vortex Viper HD 10x42's are $500 and excellent

Re: New to Binos [Re: Goatkiller] #2630033
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Originally Posted by Goatkiller
Nikon Monarch 7 in the $500 range.

Google Bird Watching Internet Sites and read up on their recommendations for mid priced binoculars. That is your best source of information. When it comes to optics deer hunters are about your worst source of information because we tend to gravitate towards what is in a sporting goods store not a camera store. So you are going to get a bunch of the standard 30% Vortex is awesome and another 30% Leupold recommendations. On the high end you are going to hear Swaro. On the birding sites you are going to also hear Swaro but there are a LOT of good binoculars that cost less and you'll get to read all about them.


I agree with this. Birders are absolutely particular with their optics. A lot can be gleaned from them.

Re: New to Binos [Re: gcr0003] #2630041
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While the birding crowd might prefer to sip their Starbucks coffee as they gaze upon an early morning Ivory-Billed Peckerwood in their $500 Arcteryx Jacket. That ain't much different than the Kuiu crowd.

However....They know their glass. That is for sure.


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Re: New to Binos [Re: gcr0003] #2630042
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You can’t go wrong with the Vortex Diamondbacks in a 10x42!! Wait til they’re on sale around the holidays and you can get a pair for around $150. I’ve done it 3 times (for myself and for gifts)

Re: New to Binos [Re: gcr0003] #2630163
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Nikon had a pair that were 180 marked down to 150 at Cabela’s so I went to get those but somehow walked out with the vortex crossfires. I am very satisfied. Couldn’t tell much difference so I went to no fault warranty that vortex offers

Re: New to Binos [Re: gcr0003] #2630227
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id rather have 8x42 IMO I prefer a wider field of view to the little bit of extra magnification ive had a pIr of $200 leupolds for over 5 years I cant complain about them I could never justify spending $2-3k on binoculars we aint glassing elk at 2000 yards we just need to be able to spot movement at the clearcut edge 150 yards away

Re: New to Binos [Re: ikillbux] #2630285
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Originally Posted by ikillbux
Every time this topic comes up I always think the same thing....Y'all some fancy, wealthy sonofaguns! grin laugh

Feels like Thurston Howell, III is up in here recommending binos.


Every single time! Seems like half these folks got gear piled up that cost as much as my house.


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Re: New to Binos [Re: gcr0003] #2630339
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Originally Posted by gcr0003
Nikon had a pair that were 180 marked down to 150 at Cabela’s so I went to get those but somehow walked out with the vortex crossfires. I am very satisfied. Couldn’t tell much difference so I went to no fault warranty that vortex offers

I got the Vortex Crossfires from Midway about 6 months ago for $149 delivered. Fogproof, unconditional warranty, a lot of bang for the money.


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Re: New to Binos [Re: gcr0003] #2630597
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So very simply...buy the best you can afford. There are some good ones including vortex and Nikon that are reasonable in price that function well.

Anyone who says that Swarovski or Leica are not better than the rest either don’t own a pair or just can’t afford it. There is a huge difference.

One warning is that Zeis Terra has major QC problems so it is a crap shoot on whether or not you get a good one.


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Re: New to Binos [Re: Goatkiller] #2630817
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Originally Posted by Goatkiller

While the birding crowd might prefer to sip their Starbucks coffee as they gaze upon an early morning Ivory-Billed Peckerwood in their $500 Arcteryx Jacket. That ain't much different than the Kuiu crowd.

However....They know their glass. That is for sure.

I wear Kuiu, also Sitka and First Lite. Im norhing like a birder... Having quality gear that serves its purpose is just smart...

Re: New to Binos [Re: quailmanman] #2630823
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Originally Posted by quailmanman
Originally Posted by ikillbux
Every time this topic comes up I always think the same thing....Y'all some fancy, wealthy sonofaguns! grin laugh

Feels like Thurston Howell, III is up in here recommending binos.


Every single time! Seems like half these folks got gear piled up that cost as much as my house.

Its got nothing to do with being rich. I have a side job that supports my outdoor habit. I have Swaros, as well as top of the line gear. I don't blow my money on anything but hunting stuff lol. My hunting buddies pretty much the same. It Only makes sense to buy top notch. I've wasted so much money over the years, i refuse to do it anymore. Save up and get the best. That way ya don't have 4 other pair of binos in a closet like i do.

Re: New to Binos [Re: ikillbux] #2630833
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Originally Posted by ikillbux
I'm just puttin' it out there. In Alabama, deer hunting, there is zero justifiable difference between an EQUALLY SIZED pair of $1,000 binos and $250 binos. There is, however, a justifiable difference between the $250 and the $75 pair. If you can't see every deer you'll ever try to look at with some 10x42 Nikon ProStaffs (or equivalent Vortex), your problem isn't the binos, and/or you've found that 1 / 1bazillion circumstance. Like I said, after that, you're just having a goober-shakin contest.


Very dumb post there.


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Re: New to Binos [Re: 257wbymag] #2630850
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Originally Posted by 257wbymag
Originally Posted by ikillbux
I'm just puttin' it out there. In Alabama, deer hunting, there is zero justifiable difference between an EQUALLY SIZED pair of $1,000 binos and $250 binos. There is, however, a justifiable difference between the $250 and the $75 pair. If you can't see every deer you'll ever try to look at with some 10x42 Nikon ProStaffs (or equivalent Vortex), your problem isn't the binos, and/or you've found that 1 / 1bazillion circumstance. Like I said, after that, you're just having a goober-shakin contest.


Very dumb post there.

Whatever, my Swaros will find a deer at 200yds, Dawn/dusk when the $250 pair of nikons still see dark... In Alaska and here again in Oregon, we laid out multiple pair of binos and compared on more than one occasion. The big 3 wins every time. Swaros, Leica, Zeiss.
When I had a guy look at a bear in a thicket and point it out, I looked through my Nikons, nothing. Called BS and took his binos. Big ass brown bear staring right at us... There's a difference. His glass by the way were SLCs

Re: New to Binos [Re: gcr0003] #2630855
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No doubt. My SLC 10x50's are my go to's. People who say different like iklillbux just don't know the difference.


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Re: New to Binos [Re: 257wbymag] #2630865
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I got 10x42 SLC. We have compared to 10x42ELs multiple times and really can't tell a $500 difference. The field flatteners or whatever are recognizable on the outer edges but, that's all.

Re: New to Binos [Re: gcr0003] #2630871
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I'm ready to try out these Leica 10x42 geovid rangefinding binos this season too.


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Re: New to Binos [Re: gcr0003] #2630924
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If you aint looking thru $2500 binos, shooting a $4000 rifle/scope combo, wearing $1200 in sitka gear, driving a $20,000 SxS to your shooting house and paying $12,000 to hunt high fence with a guide you aint hunting might as well just stay home you're wasting your time.

Re: New to Binos [Re: gcr0003] #2630933
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Lots of unhelpful posts here....once again, lots of functional Binos in the$500 range. Nothing wrong with that. But please don’t try to argue that they are like what Kodiak06 calls the big 3. My boys use my old Pentax, Nikon, and Leopoldo Binos. When they make their own money they can decide whether to upgrade. I agree that I would rather have one set of $2000 binos than a closet full of midrange binos. That goes for rangefinders and scopes too.
Buy the best you can afford and don’t look back.


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Re: New to Binos [Re: Big Bore] #2630936
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Originally Posted by Big Bore
Lots of unhelpful posts here....once again, lots of functional Binos in the$500 range. Nothing wrong with that. But please don’t try to argue that they are like what Kodiak06 calls the big 3. My boys use my old Pentax, Nikon, and Leopoldo Binos. When they make their own money they can decide whether to upgrade. I agree that I would rather have one set of $2000 binos than a closet full of midrange binos. That goes for rangefinders and scopes too.
Buy the best you can afford and don’t look back.

True... One thing people should know is you can look at optics planet and other stores alike and purchase demos. My SLCs are demos, not a scratch on them when i purchased them. They also have demos from other manufacturers. It's honestly the easiest way to upgrade.

Re: New to Binos [Re: GKelly] #2630937
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Originally Posted by GKelly
If you aint looking thru $2500 binos, shooting a $4000 rifle/scope combo, wearing $1200 in sitka gear, driving a $20,000 SxS to your shooting house and paying $12,000 to hunt high fence with a guide you aint hunting might as well just stay home you're wasting your time.

No one's said that. The Only thing said is comparing mid priced glass to top of the line glass and saying there's no difference is incorrect.

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