32 million buyout! Hahahahahahahaha!! Y'all are stuck with him for a generation.
Jimmy Sexton ought to be in jail for getting them to agree to a $32M buyout, expecially with the terms of it. It is almost criminal!
That man must have incriminating pictures of a BUNCH of folks.
Its not Jimmy Sexton that should be in jail, he did exactly what he is paid to do. The one who should be fired and jailed is the AU president. He is the one that brokered the deal and the university will have to pay for him being involved with something he has no business negotiating. Leave athletic decisions to the people you pay to make those decisions. Although Jacobs was on his way out, wait for the new AD to handle it. If Gus had bolted for Arky, its just part of the business. It would have saved AU a ton of money, frustration and support it he had.
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32 million buyout! Hahahahahahahaha!! Y'all are stuck with him for a generation.
Jimmy Sexton ought to be in jail for getting them to agree to a $32M buyout, expecially with the terms of it. It is almost criminal!
That man must have incriminating pictures of a BUNCH of folks.
Its not Jimmy Sexton that should be in jail, he did exactly what he is paid to do. The one who should be fired and jailed is the AU president. He is the one that brokered the deal and the university will have to pay for him being involved with something he has no business negotiating. Leave athletic decisions to the people you pay to make those decisions. Although Jacobs was on his way out, wait for the new AD to handle it. If Gus had bolted for Arky, its just part of the business. It would have saved AU a ton of money, frustration and support it he had.
I was being facetious. Jimmy Sexton is basically the "Nick Saban of Sports Agents".
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This is my guess on how things go. Auburn keeps Malzahn this year and puts him on an extremely hot seat for next year. Gus improves his record next year with an 8 or 9 win season. Auburn faithful falls into the "he's got things going in the right direction" trap and gives him a third year in which he goes 6-6.
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It’s not just the 32 million for Gus. Well mainly it is. But correct me if I’m wrong. You also have all the assistant coaches contracts, etc to deal with. Now you are well over 32m to get rid of the entire staff.
I have a feeling Auburn will be looking for a new DC next year. Kevin Steele see's the writing on the wall and will be proactive shopping around for another gig. Why anyone would think Auburn would be better next year? Stidham, can't wait to get the hell outta there, they have no running backs, the defensive front is losing several guys.
Auburn pays out 16 million and then another 16 million over the next 4 years to Gus to get him to leave. Probably more than that including the staff. Then pretty much the same family of people (Minus Jay Jacobs) gets to pick someone else and sign them to probably an equally lucrative contract for several years. Is that right?
What if this next guy turns out to be a 7-5 or 8-4 per year guy too?
I think the problem for Auburn, and almost every established, aspiring college football program in the nation for that matter, is the benchmark that Nick Saban has set. That benchmark for a program is playing for the National Championship every year. That benchmark for aspiring coaches is 10 million a year. Every established school thinks they should be on the same level as Alabama and is looking for a Nick Saban type coach to get them there, and every coach (And their agent) who thinks they're as good as Nick Saban is thinking that they deserve Nick Saban money.
People need to grasp reality and understand that Alabama has caught lightening in a bottle with the combination of the tradition, name recognition and resources of a college like Alabama, a college leadership group and boosters and alumni that were willing to turn the reins of a multi-million dollar program basically over to one man and one man with the football knowledge, recruiting, talent evaluation, vision and incredible work ethic of a guy like Nick Saban.
The rest of college football needs to understand that this kind of thing only happens to a major college football program once in a lifetime. Well... Actually for Alabama it has happened twice in my lifetime with Paul Bryant and Nick Saban but that's beside the point. Auburn has had Shug Jordan and Pat Dye and quite frankly that about the best it's ever going to get at Auburn and the Auburn family needs to face those facts and quit throwing money up a wild hogs ass. Auburn needs to be Auburn and realize that they are never going to be Alabama. Sure beat Alabama every few years, roll Toomer's Corner, play for the SEC Championship and or maybe the National Championship once and a while and be happy with that.
Good stuff Irish.
I'll add that even Alabama had trouble trying to be "Alabama" after Bear Bryant. Trying to recreate that dominance, "Always in the National Championship contention", SEC leading team was hard to duplicate. Under Bryant Alabama was year in and year out a powerhouse, even in down years. After Bryant left...Years of mediocrity, then successes, then mediocrity again....some really good coaches and some really bad coaches. The 30 year span from Bear's last Championship to Saban's first Championship @ Alabama (1979-2009) included only 1 Nat'l Championship in 1992 by Gene Stallings along with 2 co-SEC championships (shared) by Bryant & Curry and 2 outright SEC championships (Stallings & Dubose) in that same 30 year span. 30 years of sub-par performance by "Alabama" standards. Which proves Irish's point. 1 Nat'l title and 4 SEC championships, rabid fan base, still relevant even after 30 years of ups and downs---puts Alabama on a different level than the vast majority of other programs. I'm an Ole Miss fan as y'all know. If we would have had 1 Nat'l Title and 4 SEC championships from 1979-2009 I'd be happy about it---most programs would be. I'd love to recreate at Ole Miss what Johnny Vaught was able to do back in the day: Nat'l titles and SEC championships and able to go head to head with the big dogs and win regularly. Again, that proves Irish's point again. If it were not for Bear Bryant, Alabama would not be what they are today. Nick Saban stepped into a perfect situation: $ and tradition and passion at Alabama matched with his personal coaching and recruiting and passion to excel.
I'm not a big fan of the really prideful, brazen, obnoxious, mean/hateful Bertha-better-than-you Alabama fans that think they had something to do with the successes in football. I'm not a fan of any team's fans that act like that. All teams have them too. But what can't be argued about is the football tradition past and present that Alabama has. Other schools can become as storied in tradition but it will take major success over 50+ years and hiring/replacing multiple championship winning coaches to match that success.
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Y'all are missing the point.Sure,nobody would pass on the chance at a 10-win season coach,but this goes way deeper than that.Auburn fans are fed-up with the embarrassment that is Gus Malzahn.It's not all about wins and losses.The man is a quirky nut,that doesn't come anywhere close to even resembling anyone's idea of a major-college football coach.He doesn't look the part,act the part,or even speak the part.I've always dismissed the high-school offense comparison,because any variation of offensive ideology is hard to categorize when parts of it are utilized at every level.But the man fits the high-school coach mold to a "t".They say a team will take on it's head coach's persona,and I believe there's some truth to that.So many times we've looked soft and clueless,and you look over to the sideline,only to see Gus,looking like he couldn't figure out how to fight his way out of a wet paper bag.He just doesn't fit the mold.And it's one thing to employ your "typical" college football coach while weathering some tough seasons,but when you look like you were thinking "out of the box" when you made your last hire,and it all turns south,the whole fanbase tends to look like quirky nuts...
I honestly believe Tuberville was the best coach Auburn has had in a while, and he kind of fit the program. It's a shame he got run off or whatever happened. I think he could have had long term success down there.