if by "we" you mean the Al Dept Conservation located in Montgomery Al then this is a damn misstatement. If you mean you and one of yer friends I may buy it.....

My muck boots ain't near by and this sh!t is getting deep. One of y'all owe me a new pair of socks.

I’m kinda tied up but I do want to verify something I said, because apparently it’s been manipulated or misinterpreted. I have made a statement several times, including publicly, that I will not consume any deer I kill IF CWD is detected within a certain vicinity of where I hunt, unless I have it tested prior to consumption. There is still too much that is not known about transmission to risk that for my family and friends. I did not say I would stop eating deer entirely. I’m not pushing that from a professional or personal view point. I simply provide the facts we have, and share the recommendations the professional health experts tend to agree on. Potentially exposing myself or my children to that risk is not one I’m willing to take, and I am certainly within my rights to share that as an employee of the state. I don’t care for my words being taken out of context, but that’s the world we live in. I wasn’t going to respond to this thread at all, but since I keep being dragged into it I thought I’d clear that up.

Thanks Judge Kavanaugh, but we have another that said you were drinking when you said that and would not remember the incident. He will be along shortly to confirm you are in fact lying and that you should be eliminated from ever talking again.

I’m kinda tied up but I do want to verify something I said, because apparently it’s been manipulated or misinterpreted. I have made a statement several times, including publicly, that I will not consume any deer I kill IF CWD is detected within a certain vicinity of where I hunt, unless I have it tested prior to consumption. There is still too much that is not known about transmission to risk that for my family and friends. I did not say I would stop eating deer entirely. I’m not pushing that from a professional or personal view point. I simply provide the facts we have, and share the recommendations the professional health experts tend to agree on. Potentially exposing myself or my children to that risk is not one I’m willing to take, and I am certainly within my rights to share that as an employee of the state. I don’t care for my words being taken out of context, but that’s the world we live in. I wasn’t going to respond to this thread at all, but since I keep being dragged into it I thought I’d clear that up.

Not everyone can or would have a deer tested from a confirmed area before consuming. Should season be be closed until.all clear??

it will never be clear.....

Alright Jhardy Feinstein if you are referring to me I never said he was drinking or that he wouldn’t remember the incident. As for what was said in Hamilton, Alabama at Backside BBQ at the CWD discussion there were no such disclaimers made with the statement. You said that you and your sons would no longer hunt deer if CWD was found here. I know most of the people in the room when you made that statement as a matter of fact 3 of them have already discussed t with the DCNR.

As for what you just posted on qualifiers I agree with and will follow a similar course of action if it comes here.

As for dragging you into this and not responding I didn’t see a response to the proposed plan and 95/100 captive deering being slaughtered if they are in the zone. Do you wish to respond to that or can we assume the lack of response means it is accurate?

Not trying to take up for Matt, he has already done that but I talked to a couple that were there that didn’t understand it that way but I won’t hide the fact that I was one of the DCNR contacted that did think that’s how it was stated. So, leaves us at a point of different messages were heard/understood by different folks. All that said, we are using this as a learning experience and will make DAMN sure to make more precise statements.

1. Is an opinion, from both your side and theirs. Yes it is legal in the state as to how well accepted and indorsed by DCNR is debatable. I know Chuck himself has personally told Deer farmers that he doesn’t care if every deer on their place dies as they aren’t his concern. I was standing beside the deer farmver at the BJCC when he made the statement.

2. No comment

3. Is like the other post from Honolulu and Matt Brock a nice caveat regarding wild free ranging deer. If you read the response plan as it pertains to Trey it calls for depopulation of captive deer within the 25 mile radius and testing to establish a 95% confidence of catching 1% prevalence.

Unless I am totally missed remembering my statistics classes this does not mean they will kill 95 out of you 100 deer.

What that means is that if a deer farmer is within the 25 mile radius and has 100 deer 95 will be shot and tested regardless of any of the deer showing signs etc simply because they are captive and within the containment zone. Understand Trey or any other farmers outrage when a state agency without proof is going to come on your farm that you worked to build and slaughter your investment for the “greater good”. Regardless of what the public perception is of deer farmers someone has put in some hard work and sacrafice to build that farm. Draw a parallel how would the cattle farmers respond if the state came in and slaughtered $300,000 worth of your cattle without compensation to look for a sick animal because one 49 miles away was found. The state plan includes a nice statement to this end that the state will not compensate the deer farmer for the animals tested regardless of results. You weigh that out and for an opinion on where the DCNR stands on the side of deer farmers.

If I have misinterpreted or misstated anything please show me where.

Alabama CWD SSRP May 2018
be used as the population count. The estimated population will be used to determine the number of samples needed from within the captive facility to have a 95% probability of detecting CWD if prevalence is at least 1% in the population (Appendix 8) or as otherwise recommended by Southeastern Cooperative Wildlife Disease Study (SCWDS). Sampling will be initiated in the CZ and progress outward to the HRZ.

None of us are ever going to say all of this isn’t going to change as we move forward. CWD is a very dynamic topic and will continue to be for years.

Wow, I am floored with the double standards of personal rights here. Seems like just the other day you were making a post about how you were rejoicing in having done what was right for your own business yet those same rights should not extend to a farmer.

What does depopulating ones own personal property have to do with the matter prior to fencing the property? If you toe the line of the deer belong to the public then by extension I should get to hunt them on your property as well? There has to be a balance of private property rights versus state resource rights and obviously it meets some friction where those two intersect. From the high fence perspective I think you are suppose to push all the deer out prior however I think this is difficult. From the high fence perspective the goal is superior genetics so why would you want to keep native deer with inferior genetics?

How many deer farmers do you know? And how many of the ones who you know broke the law have you reported? If they are transporting deer illegally they should be prosecuted plain and simple. I think in the early days of deer farmer there was a motive to do this however the genetics in Alabama are as good as anywhere else in the country so this doesn’t make sense. I know some were busted last year for it and they paid a huge price and should.