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Re: 7MM-08 Bullet
[Re: fladeerhntr]
#2577960
09/12/18 10:08 PM
09/12/18 10:08 PM
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Posts: 18,057 North AL
AU338MAG
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Accubonds will reliably expand at velocities down to at least 2000 FPS. Good bullet choice for this gun.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
Molon Labe
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Re: 7MM-08 Bullet
[Re: Hangfire]
#2587631
09/22/18 10:20 PM
09/22/18 10:20 PM
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Posts: 1,826 Sneads, Florida
fladeerhntr
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The 120 ballistic tip really does well also. The 7-08 is such a great caliber you can’t go wrong. Try loading those accubonds and see if they group for you. Since you have them already and like them. Nice rifle you picked up too. Thanks I bought it from a member on here and really like it so far which worked out good because I got a new rifle and now I can put a face with the name when I see them on here. With those ballistic tips how do they do at close ranges? Just wondering because where I hunt I generally can't see over 100 yards so most of the time the shots are kinda close and have heard a lot of horror stories about ballistic tips at close range.
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Re: 7MM-08 Bullet
[Re: fladeerhntr]
#2588747
09/24/18 11:21 AM
09/24/18 11:21 AM
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Goatkiller
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A 140 Sierra will blow about a golf ball size or slightly bigger exit hole through a 200+ lb whitetail. Generally shred, break bones or whatever is in between.
I have loaded and shot deer with many more expensively touted bullets myself for 7mm-08.... but I'm not really sure there is any need to shoot a more expensive, faster, bonded or anything else kinda bullet. 140 Sierras will flat out grease even the biggest buck around these parts.
For things that shoot south of 3,000 fps you just don't need a bonded bullet on an Alabama Whitetail. Most are what 150lbs? If you are trying to shoot a 120 grain you might need bonded because you are knocking on 3,000 but I'm not sure why you would be shooting a 120 grain to begin with the ballistics are essentially the same as a 140 out of a 7mm-08 at 2800. Makes no sense. You probably won't make those load data numbers anyway if you don't have a 26" barrel so it's a moot point. Recoil is the only case for shooting a 120 grain.
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Re: 7MM-08 Bullet
[Re: R_H_Clark]
#2589030
09/24/18 04:37 PM
09/24/18 04:37 PM
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Posts: 18,057 North AL
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You will get pass through with just about any bullet in the 7-08. Only reason to shoot bonded or mono is if you might need to put a bullet through one lengthwise. I might disagree with that statement to some extent. I have shot a few dozen deer with 139-140 bullets in 7mm and it is the only bullet which has shown some tendency to only make one hole. Most of these deer were shot with a 7X57 at about 2950 FPS MV at ranges under 100 yards. The Hornady139 he SP always killed good but I probably recovered about half a dozen of these bullets under the skin on the off side. Switched to a 140 partition and always had 2 holes. I've used 140 Accubonds in a 7mm RM and have recovered 3 of those out of about 10 shot with that rifle. All were DRT. Two holes don't kill deer, massive internal damage kills them. If you ALWAYS want a pass through with massive internal damage, use a partition.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
Molon Labe
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Re: 7MM-08 Bullet
[Re: Goatkiller]
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09/24/18 06:26 PM
09/24/18 06:26 PM
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Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 14,590 Tuscaloosa Co.
N2TRKYS
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A 140 Sierra will blow about a golf ball size or slightly bigger exit hole through a 200+ lb whitetail. Generally shred, break bones or whatever is in between.
I have loaded and shot deer with many more expensively touted bullets myself for 7mm-08.... but I'm not really sure there is any need to shoot a more expensive, faster, bonded or anything else kinda bullet. 140 Sierras will flat out grease even the biggest buck around these parts.
For things that shoot south of 3,000 fps you just don't need a bonded bullet on an Alabama Whitetail. Most are what 150lbs? If you are trying to shoot a 120 grain you might need bonded because you are knocking on 3,000 but I'm not sure why you would be shooting a 120 grain to begin with the ballistics are essentially the same as a 140 out of a 7mm-08 at 2800. Makes no sense. You probably won't make those load data numbers anyway if you don't have a 26" barrel so it's a moot point. Recoil is the only case for shooting a 120 grain. I lucked out. I’m getting 3000fps with my 120 grain NBTs and 2870fps with 140 grain Partitions out of a 20” tube. I’m curious to see how the 120 NBT does on whitetails this year. I hope to shoot an elk next year with the 140 Partitions.
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Re: 7MM-08 Bullet
[Re: fladeerhntr]
#2589616
09/25/18 09:12 AM
09/25/18 09:12 AM
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Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 9,166 B'ham
Goatkiller
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14 point
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I have thought about trying the game king after talking to a friend that shoots them in his 30-06 and he really likes them. With the game king do you get a consistent pass through? That is one thing that I really liked about the Accubond in my 7 mag is I always got a pass through and everything I shot with it but 1 was DRT. My only concern with it in the 7mm-08 is it not expanding at the lower velocity's and getting a pencil sized entry and exit wound. That's why I shoot the Sierra bullets a lot of times... they are not as well constructed but our 150lb deer are just not that well constructed either. I would get a pencil hole with bonded bullets if I didn't shoot through the front shoulders or get some rib bone, etc.. Just wasn't getting the damage with a double lung. I don't want to step down and go to something like a 120 Barnes simply because I am a heavy for caliber bullet guy. The thought process being you are relying less on the bullet construction itself and more on energy and weight. Bullets like Sierra, Core-lokt and similar have been getting it done for 50+ years. When we start hand loading we tend to want to get fancy, especially with the bullets because of the choices these days,.... but the fact of the matter is the old school stuff just plain gets it done. And to me with less fuss or question as to whether it is going to work as prescribed. Unless there is some kind of bermuda triangle stuff going on I always get a pass through on a broadside shot with the 140 Sierras. The last deer I kilt with 7-08 was maybe 2 years ago. Deer was 200lbs dressed out so it was a big'un.... and it punched a very nice hole through it double lung shot. I shot a deer last season with 7-mag 160 Sierra. I think I poured about 1/2 the deer out of the hole it left behind. Broke both front legs. Nice exit with a piece of bone sticking out. DRT. Shot it in the road so I could just pick it up on the way out and that's where it was when I drove back to the camp house. I would venture to guess most internet experts would tell you that Sierra would have blown up on the hide due to the velocity or some other similar wildly inaccurate story about how their uncle took a shot in 1982 with that bullet and it literally bounced off a jackrabbit. Give it a shot. Kill a doe or two and decide for yourself. Does taste great.
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Re: 7MM-08 Bullet
[Re: AU338MAG]
#2589939
09/25/18 03:03 PM
09/25/18 03:03 PM
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Posts: 8,670 NW Alabama
R_H_Clark
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You will get pass through with just about any bullet in the 7-08. Only reason to shoot bonded or mono is if you might need to put a bullet through one lengthwise. I might disagree with that statement to some extent. I have shot a few dozen deer with 139-140 bullets in 7mm and it is the only bullet which has shown some tendency to only make one hole. Most of these deer were shot with a 7X57 at about 2950 FPS MV at ranges under 100 yards. The Hornady139 he SP always killed good but I probably recovered about half a dozen of these bullets under the skin on the off side. Switched to a 140 partition and always had 2 holes. I've used 140 Accubonds in a 7mm RM and have recovered 3 of those out of about 10 shot with that rifle. All were DRT. Two holes don't kill deer, massive internal damage kills them. If you ALWAYS want a pass through with massive internal damage, use a partition. Partitions are good. a mono or most bonded work just as well for pass through. I wouldn't completly disagree with you. I likely should have said mostly get pass through. I don't think lungs and ribs will stop any of them,but you might get into a shoulder that would. With the standard bullets,I see no reason to push them and I think they perform a lot better from about 2400- 2700
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Re: 7MM-08 Bullet
[Re: R_H_Clark]
#2589958
09/25/18 03:21 PM
09/25/18 03:21 PM
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Posts: 18,057 North AL
AU338MAG
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
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You will get pass through with just about any bullet in the 7-08. Only reason to shoot bonded or mono is if you might need to put a bullet through one lengthwise. I might disagree with that statement to some extent. I have shot a few dozen deer with 139-140 bullets in 7mm and it is the only bullet which has shown some tendency to only make one hole. Most of these deer were shot with a 7X57 at about 2950 FPS MV at ranges under 100 yards. The Hornady139 he SP always killed good but I probably recovered about half a dozen of these bullets under the skin on the off side. Switched to a 140 partition and always had 2 holes. I've used 140 Accubonds in a 7mm RM and have recovered 3 of those out of about 10 shot with that rifle. All were DRT. Two holes don't kill deer, massive internal damage kills them. If you ALWAYS want a pass through with massive internal damage, use a partition. Partitions are good. a mono or most bonded work just as well for pass through. I wouldn't completly disagree with you. I likely should have said mostly get pass through. I don't think lungs and ribs will stop any of them,but you might get into a shoulder that would. With the standard bullets,I see no reason to push them and I think they perform a lot better from about 2400- 2700 Its just an oddity that I have experienced with that particular caliber/weight of bullet. No problems, because all of the deer died and right quickly. I haven't recovered but just a couple other bullets in the other calibers that I have used. YMMV.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
Molon Labe
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Re: 7MM-08 Bullet
[Re: Goatkiller]
#2590572
09/26/18 07:26 AM
09/26/18 07:26 AM
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Posts: 9,587
BPI
14 point
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A 140 Sierra will blow about a golf ball size or slightly bigger exit hole through a 200+ lb whitetail. Generally shred, break bones or whatever is in between.
I have loaded and shot deer with many more expensively touted bullets myself for 7mm-08.... but I'm not really sure there is any need to shoot a more expensive, faster, bonded or anything else kinda bullet. 140 Sierras will flat out grease even the biggest buck around these parts.
For things that shoot south of 3,000 fps you just don't need a bonded bullet on an Alabama Whitetail. Most are what 150lbs? If you are trying to shoot a 120 grain you might need bonded because you are knocking on 3,000 but I'm not sure why you would be shooting a 120 grain to begin with the ballistics are essentially the same as a 140 out of a 7mm-08 at 2800. Makes no sense. You probably won't make those load data numbers anyway if you don't have a 26" barrel so it's a moot point. Recoil is the only case for shooting a 120 grain.
A 140 sierra game king is my go to in a 7mm anything. That's a wonderful bullet.
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Re: 7MM-08 Bullet
[Re: fladeerhntr]
#2592021
09/27/18 01:11 PM
09/27/18 01:11 PM
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Posts: 4,620 Alabama
Rmart30
10 point
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Posts: 4,620
Alabama
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I like pass thrus. The 120ttsx has done very well for me with good expansion.
Ethical behavior is doing the right thing when no one else is watching - even when doing the wrong thing is legal. Aldo Leopold .. (except when it comes to trailer tags)
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