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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: CNC] #2588000
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What are yall spraying with? 41% GLY from TSC or Round up? I don't know if the 41% Gly is as strong as the roundup. It's cheaper but I think its a little weaker. I put 2.5 gallons in my 40 gallon sprayer and use the boom. It works but just seems to take a while.


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Originally Posted by jaredhunts
What are yall spraying with? 41% GLY from TSC or Round up? I don't know if the 41% Gly is as strong as the roundup. It's cheaper but I think its a little weaker. I put 2.5 gallons in my 40 gallon sprayer and use the boom. It works but just seems to take a while.


Way, way overkill on the rate.

41% of the same ingredient in the same size container is going to be the same, regardless of brand.

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Originally Posted by Cynical
Originally Posted by jaredhunts
What are yall spraying with? 41% GLY from TSC or Round up? I don't know if the 41% Gly is as strong as the roundup. It's cheaper but I think its a little weaker. I put 2.5 gallons in my 40 gallon sprayer and use the boom. It works but just seems to take a while.


Way, way overkill on the rate.

41% of the same ingredient in the same size container is going to be the same, regardless of brand.


Yep. That’s a nuclear bomb concentration.

Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: Remington270] #2588336
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Originally Posted by Remington270
Originally Posted by Cynical
Originally Posted by jaredhunts
What are yall spraying with? 41% GLY from TSC or Round up? I don't know if the 41% Gly is as strong as the roundup. It's cheaper but I think its a little weaker. I put 2.5 gallons in my 40 gallon sprayer and use the boom. It works but just seems to take a while.


Way, way overkill on the rate.

41% of the same ingredient in the same size container is going to be the same, regardless of brand.


Yep. That’s a nuclear bomb concentration.

What ratio do y'all use?


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2 oz of gly per gallon of water.


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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: Turkey_neck] #2588374
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2 oz of gly per gallon of water.

I do like it strong.


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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: jaredhunts] #2588517
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Originally Posted by jaredhunts
What are yall spraying with? 41% GLY from TSC or Round up? I don't know if the 41% Gly is as strong as the roundup. It's cheaper but I think its a little weaker. I put 2.5 gallons in my 40 gallon sprayer and use the boom. It works but just seems to take a while.

Holy cow dude. That's 4X the recommended rate.

You don't see any effect until 7-10 days after spraying.


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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: Cynical] #2588519
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Originally Posted by Cynical
Originally Posted by jaredhunts
What are yall spraying with? 41% GLY from TSC or Round up? I don't know if the 41% Gly is as strong as the roundup. It's cheaper but I think its a little weaker. I put 2.5 gallons in my 40 gallon sprayer and use the boom. It works but just seems to take a while.


Way, way overkill on the rate.

41% of the same ingredient in the same size container is going to be the same, regardless of brand.



There’s actually lots of differences between the cheap generic brands you buy for $39/jug at discount stores versus brand name product Roundup Pro Concentrate, Weathermax, Accord XRT, etc. % concentrate can be misleading as # of salt per gallon of product (active ingredients) vary from 3#/gal in the cheap stuff, up to 6#/gal for the premium brand. So if you apply 2 Oz/gal of a 41% 3# product it is equivalent to 1oz/gal of the premium product. The premium products are blended at facilities that (in general) know what they are doing. I bet your grandmother makes cornbread better than I do. Glyphosate products are the same. Cheap products can separate in solution and don’t mix as well. Also name brand products contain a full surfactant package that would have to be added to the cheaper product

Nearly all herbicide professionals (farmers, row contractors, etc) use name brand products for a reason. The time and cost of respraying costs more than using name brand products. I use both cheap (Cornerstone S) and premium (Roundup Pro Concentrate and Accord XRT) by the tote - 265 gallons each. Both products serve same purpose but don’t be fooled by price and % concentrate alone. Read the labels and then do the math

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I been using the cheap stuff for over 20 years with no problem. Takes 7-10 days to see any effect. I sprayed 2 weeks ago and planted Saturday. We're supposed to get rain this week and by the time it sprouts the cooler weather should be here.

Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: CNC] #2588539
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Somebody needs to tell my weeds they shouldn’t be dying like they are since I’m using store brand.

Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: RiverWood] #2588542
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Originally Posted by RiverWood

Originally Posted by Cynical
Originally Posted by jaredhunts
What are yall spraying with? 41% GLY from TSC or Round up? I don't know if the 41% Gly is as strong as the roundup. It's cheaper but I think its a little weaker. I put 2.5 gallons in my 40 gallon sprayer and use the boom. It works but just seems to take a while.


Way, way overkill on the rate.

41% of the same ingredient in the same size container is going to be the same, regardless of brand.



There’s actually lots of differences between the cheap generic brands you buy for $39/jug at discount stores versus brand name product Roundup Pro Concentrate, Weathermax, Accord XRT, etc. % concentrate can be misleading as # of salt per gallon of product (active ingredients) vary from 3#/gal in the cheap stuff, up to 6#/gal for the premium brand. So if you apply 2 Oz/gal of a 41% 3# product it is equivalent to 1oz/gal of the premium product. The premium products are blended at facilities that (in general) know what they are doing. I bet your grandmother makes cornbread better than I do. Glyphosate products are the same. Cheap products can separate in solution and don’t mix as well. Also name brand products contain a full surfactant package that would have to be added to the cheaper product

Nearly all herbicide professionals (farmers, row contractors, etc) use name brand products for a reason. The time and cost of respraying costs more than using name brand products. I use both cheap (Cornerstone S) and premium (Roundup Pro Concentrate and Accord XRT) by the tote - 265 gallons each. Both products serve same purpose but don’t be fooled by price and % concentrate alone. Read the labels and then do the math



Scruggs sells a 2.5 gallon for $29 here and it works just fine. They sell thousands of gallons of it to farmers by the tote for even cheaper.

Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: CNC] #2588546
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But y'all don't get it. Like riverwood is trying to say on large scale farming when your living depends on it its pennies per acre difference. Better farmers pay a bit more for crop safety and performance guarantee and lower use rates. We see up here 40-48 oz of generic is needed to perform like 30-32 oz of powermax does. Don't sound like much but do the math spraying 5500 acres 4-6 times a crop year


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Originally Posted by 257wbymag
But y'all don't get it. Like riverwood is trying to say on large scale farming when your living depends on it its pennies per acre difference. Better farmers pay a bit more for crop safety and performance guarantee and lower use rates. We see up here 40-48 oz of generic is needed to perform like 30-32 oz of powermax does. Don't sound like much but do the math spraying 5500 acres 4-6 times a crop year


Isn’t powermax a higher % glyphosate?

Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: CNC] #2588552
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49% of 5.5# salt

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Compared to 41% 3# salt for cheapest generics. Both do same things but very different product

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Saying all gly products are same is like saying that a 1/2” ratchet from Harbor Freight is same as 1/2” off the Snap On truck. Both do the same job but the one from HF is much cheaper

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Makes sense.

Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: CNC] #2588620
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River, I completely agree, but I also don't belive someone who uses hand tools every now and then needs snap on tools. I have a set of cheap tools that I use often that my kids bought me about 25 years ago and they still work just fine.

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Agree. Point I’m trying share is that sometimes paying $52/jug is actually a better value than the $29 jug and it’s cheaper to do it to spray once

Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: CNC] #2588694
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Good discussion guys. My comment above was half tongue in cheek. Pretty big difference between a professional farmer and someone like myself with hardly any budget and a deer hobby. I'm not going to turn down Tractor Supply glyphosate...especially when they mark it down 50%.

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