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Re: Kavanaugh derailment from the left [Re: abolt300] #2582295
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Originally Posted by abolt300
I think that Herman Cain would've been an excellent president. He definitely would've had my vote. For those that dont remember, he was not defeated by a republican challenger in the primaries. He too was derailed behind the scenes by the Democraps (because they dang sure couldnt afford to let the Republicans run a black candidate). The Dems would've lost 50% of the black vote and that would've sentenced them to losing every election from here forward until such time as they could import enough additional latino votes across our southern border. Not running Herman Cain was the single biggest mistake that the Republican party ever made IMO. He would have single handedly killed the democratic party.


I don't think he'd have gotten nearly as much of the black vote as some think..........from what I can tell (and this is purely anecdotal) most black democrats trust a black Republican even less than a white one.


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Abolt if I remember correctly, Cain withdrew due to his wife not wanting to put up with the attacks the Dems were using. I think it was an un-named female type attack too. Does anyone remember the details?


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I'm curious what it pays to be a "out the woodwork" female to slander a political figure these days. You would think the Republicans would start looking at some bank account history of these women

Re: Kavanaugh derailment from the left [Re: perchjerker] #2582300
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Originally Posted by perchjerker
Abolt if I remember correctly, Cain withdrew due to his wife not wanting to put up with the attacks the Dems were using. I think it was an un-named female type attack too. Does anyone remember the details?


straight from Wikipedia, so obviously TIFWIW...

Sexual misconduct accusations[edit]


In October 2011, Politico reported that two female employees had complained about inappropriate behavior by Cain during his tenure at the National Restaurant Association. The women reportedly accepted financial settlements from the association which barred them from discussing their allegations further.[46] Cain's campaign initially refused comment,[47] but subsequently acknowledged that the accusations had been made.[48] Cain strongly denied any impropriety, stating: "I have never sexually harassed anyone and those accusations are totally false." He initially denied being aware of any financial settlement with the accusers, but later accepted that some form of payment had been made by the Restaurant Association.[49] He described the allegations as a "witch hunt".[50][51]
The Cain campaign hired attorney L. Lin Wood to head a team responding to the allegations. Wood warned that any other women coming forward with allegations would face intense scrutiny and might also be subject to legal action, but said he did not intend to scare anyone away from doing so.[52]
On November 3, 2011, it was reported that a third woman had stated that Cain had commented on her attractiveness and invited her up to his corporate apartment.[53]

Karen Kraushaar[edit]
On November 8, 2011, one of the first two women to accuse Cain was identified as Karen Kraushaar, currently employed at the US Treasury Department. According to Cain, one of the specific allegations was making a gesture indicating his wife's height by holding his palm flat, which one of the accusers found objectionable.[54][55] Joel Bennett, the lawyer representing Kraushaar, called Cain's version of events "goofy", stating that his "client would never have filed a complaint of sexual harassment on the basis that she was the same height as his wife. It is ridiculous." Bennett would not describe the complaint, but said he might in the future.[56][57][58][59] In an interview with Greta van Susteren, Cain further said that the allegations had been investigated and found baseless. Two days later Cain recalled the incident, claiming not to know what or how much may have been paid. One of the women had been paid a year's salary and the other a lesser amount.[60]

Sharon Bialek[edit]
According to The New York Times and Bloomberg News, at a November 7, 2011, press conference, a fourth woman, registered Republican Sharon Bialek, made allegations of a sexual assault in Cain's car in the summer of 1997. At the time, Bialek had recently lost her job at the National Restaurant Association where she had been a subordinate of Cain's, and she was asking him for assistance in either getting her job back or finding a new job. She alleged that, following a dinner meeting to discuss her job search, Cain reached under the skirt of her suit for her genitals and pushed her head toward his crotch. When she questioned his behavior, Bialek said that Cain replied, "You want a job, right?"[61] Bialek has sought legal assistance from lawyer Gloria Allred.[61] At the press conference, Allred showed what she said were two affidavits from people testifying that Bialek had told them of the incident at the time. The affidavits were not released to the press.[62] Cain's campaign team promptly denied the accusations, claiming them to be "completely false", and repeating that he "never harassed anyone".[63]
At a press conference on November 8, 2011, Cain said of Bialek, "I don't even know who this lady is."[64] But at the November 7, 2011, press conference, Bialek said that she had a recent encounter with Cain, on October 1, 2011, at a Tea Party event, and that Cain had said he remembered her, and they talked. Amy Jacobson, a Chicago radio talk show host, corroborated Bialek's story about the October 1 meeting to the Chicago Sun-Times: "She talked to him for a few minutes, which made me kind of mad because I wanted to talk to him". Jacobson said that Cain appeared "stone-faced" after smiling at first.[65] On November 14, 2011, Bialek's former boyfriend, Dr. Victor Zuckerman, a registered Republican, held a press conference in which he corroborated Bialek's version of what happened in 1997: "When she returned [from Chicago], she was upset. She said something had happened and that Mr. Cain had touched her in an inappropriate manner." Zuckerman also said that when he first learned of the allegations on October 30, he called Bialek to ask if she was involved. She said "no" but was livid about Cain's denials.[66]

Ginger White[edit]
On November 28, 2011, Cain announced that a fifth woman, Ginger White, 46,[67] would be claiming to have had a thirteen-year affair with him and that the allegation was not true. An interview with White was aired an hour later on Fox 5 in Atlanta. In the interview, White said the affair lasted 13 years and ended right before Cain announced his presidential campaign.[68] On November 30, 2011, Cain denounced allegations of sexual harassment and adultery as "character assassination" during an event in Dayton, Ohio.[69]
On November 25, 2013, Cain decided to write the details of his defense,[70] specifically referring to the timeline of Ginger White's actions. He said of his reason for doing so then, "Until now, I have never offered the facts that expose these accusations as lies, although I have been in possession of them ... It is now time to do so, not only because the false accusations have received renewed attention with the publication of a book that discusses them, but more importantly because I refuse to live my life, pursue my radio and professional career or do anything else that God has left for me to do in this world with a dark cloud attached to my reputation that is not consistent with the truth."

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3toe she is a Dem activist and while I thought the same as you, I'd bet it has been hidden and laundered.


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Re: Kavanaugh derailment from the left [Re: GomerPyle] #2582304
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Originally Posted by GomerPyle
Originally Posted by bama1971


in my humble opinion, our party not putting up a better candidate is what got Doug Jones elected. Literally anyone else would have won in a landslide.


You're wasting your breath. There are some folks who refuse to hold the PARTY responsible and, instead, put 100% of the blame on people who don't look at Roy Moore like an innocent Sunday School teacher who has never done any wrong.


He lost because of an 11th hour "sexual misconduct" smear job paid for with over $50 million of smear job TV and radio ads.

And sorry ass conservatives and Republicans not voting.

He only lost by 20,000 votes.

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Re: Kavanaugh derailment from the left [Re: perchjerker] #2582307
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Originally Posted by perchjerker
Abolt if I remember correctly, Cain withdrew due to his wife not wanting to put up with the attacks the Dems were using. I think it was an un-named female type attack too. Does anyone remember the details?


If I remember right, he was a big restauranteur and there were a couple women come forward claiming he propositioned them at trade shows and then someone else claimed to have had a long time affair with him that he said was just a friendship. It got really ugly and Cain bowed out rather than put his family through it as it was getting uglier by the day.

Bama posted a much more complete description above that I did not see while replying. That said, after reading Bama71's post, the fact that Gloria Allred (attention whore and huge liberal democrat attorney that surprisingly enough was also involved with the Trump accusers, anyone seeing a pattern here) was involved with one of the women, tells me all that I need to know and that with 99% probability there is no merit to the claims. Once again, all of this just completely disappeared never to be heard of again at the exact same time that he announced he was dropping out of the race.

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Re: Kavanaugh derailment from the left [Re: abolt300] #2582312
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Originally Posted by abolt300
Originally Posted by perchjerker
Abolt if I remember correctly, Cain withdrew due to his wife not wanting to put up with the attacks the Dems were using. I think it was an un-named female type attack too. Does anyone remember the details?


If I remember right, he was a big restauranteur and there were a couple women come forward claiming he propositioned them at trade shows and then someone else claimed to have had a long time affair with him that he said was just a friendship. It got really ugly and Cain bowed out rather than put his family through it as it was getting uglier by the day.


https://www.businessinsider.com/una...in-sexual-harassment-accusations-2011-11

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Originally Posted by WmHunter
Originally Posted by GomerPyle
Originally Posted by bama1971


in my humble opinion, our party not putting up a better candidate is what got Doug Jones elected. Literally anyone else would have won in a landslide.


You're wasting your breath. There are some folks who refuse to hold the PARTY responsible and, instead, put 100% of the blame on people who don't look at Roy Moore like an innocent Sunday School teacher who has never done any wrong.


He lost because of an 11th hour "sexual misconduct" smear job paid for with over $50 million of smear job TV and radio ads.

And sorry ass conservatives and Republicans not voting.

He only lost by 20,000 votes.


Not to mention he was fire from elected office 2 times because he failed to carry out the duties he was sworn to uphold all because he held his "convictions" (which by the way was I will tell you how you will act and you will obey and prance around holier than thou)' The Republican party should have said no thanks to him, but they were too dumb to realize everybody didn't buy what he was selling.


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made up crap by some losers.

Re: Kavanaugh derailment from the left [Re: bama1971] #2582434
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Originally Posted by bama1971
Originally Posted by WmHunter
Originally Posted by bama1971
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Hell it worked for them in Alabama they might as well keep trying this tactic if conservatives are dumb enough to let it work.....


at least Kavanaugh doesn't seem to be an ass hat like Roy Moore.


That's the shitty attitude that led to and allowed atheist Marxist Globalist liberals to CONQUER and SUBJUGATE the
State of Alabama and defeat Roy Moore and install Doug Jones as U.S. Senator over the land, people and territory of the sovereign
State of Alabama.


in my humble opinion, our party not putting up a better candidate is what got Doug Jones elected. Literally anyone else would have won in a landslide.


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The dims are pulling on every string they can, what a buncha dumbarses! How many of them sumbiches have ever told the truth. Talk about corruption, hell they hired this woman they know exactly what’s goin on.

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Some morons here can't grasp the idea that putting a lib in office could prevent a Conservative member of the Supreme Court.


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Let's not re-litigate the Judge Moore-Doug Jones debacle.

Let us hope and pray that the Rs in the Senate stand firm and move the process forward
for a committee vote then full Senate vote without delay.


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I don't why they don't just push him through. The news keeps saying the Dems will use that in the mid terms. Who gives a chit, they're gonna do what they're gonna do REGARDLESS. Any intelligent person knows it all BS. The unintelligent is gonna vote D anyways.


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and coincidentally this ends up in the Dem's hands just before the confirmation... skip the police, or anyone else who could investigate but CAN"T derail vote.... just sayin...


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This is happening for two reasons. His support for the second and their fear they won't be able to keep killing babies.


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Flake is gonna fuber the whole thing to spite Trump because he in not running again because he would loose his seat anyway.


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Originally Posted by top cat
Flake is gonna fuber the whole thing to spite Trump because he in not running again because he would loose his seat anyway.


Yep , and because hes an obnoxious POS who needs a boot up his arse.

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Noteworthy is that the internet has been scrubbed of all the social media postings of this false accuser of Kavanaugh.

She is clearly an agent of the Left who was a willing participant in this LONG PLANNED character assassination.

And the conspirators made sure that the internet was scrubbed of all her Far Left social media postings before Feinstein and Katz struck the
country after the confirmation hearings. Now Feinstein is trying to turn it all around on Trump by today accusing Trump of "not investigating the matter."

We do know that the 11th hour accuser is a registered Democrat, a vocal pro abortion feminist, is part of the #Metoo movement, is a proponent of the "global warming" bs, is for
open borders and against the enforcement of the laws against illegal immigration, has written anti-Trump letters, donates to Democrat candidates and the DNC, and never made a public allegation against Kavanaugh until this past Sunday - 35 years after the alleged incident.


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