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Pained me to spray clover
#2576835
09/11/18 05:16 PM
09/11/18 05:16 PM
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muzziehead
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Last year I planted the WMS Mississippi blend and really had not been down to club much this summer to check the plots. After bushhogging them to prep for spraying and planting I was surprised to find a nice patch of clover in every plot where we planted the WMS blend. Years ago we planted 3 plots in Whitetail Imperial clover and they did great and the deer grazed them all summer but come fall they just quit hitting them, despite our efforts to attract them. I hated to spray all that clover, especially when I think back about how hard we worked to establish those original 3 plots years ago.
What do you do with plots on your place if you have a decent stand of clover? I dont have a drill planter so that is not an option. I tried to reconfigure some of the plots so I could keep some of the clover on each plot, at least a 15' wide strip around the edge.
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Re: Pained me to spray clover
[Re: muzziehead]
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09/12/18 06:58 AM
09/12/18 06:58 AM
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I agree with others.....just broadcast more seed before a rain and mow over it.
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Re: Pained me to spray clover
[Re: muzziehead]
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09/12/18 07:49 AM
09/12/18 07:49 AM
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Actually, on established perennial clover plots, you can spray gly at a reduced rate, about 1 1/4 quart per acre and get a good kill, without hurting the clover. With my sprayer, it takes 20 gallons to cover an acre driving about 6 mph. I use 2ozs/gallon and always get a good kill, but the clover survives, as long as its not stressed. This time of the year is not the optimum time for trying this. May spraying really cleans up a clover plot nicely.
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Re: Pained me to spray clover
[Re: blumsden]
#2577798
09/12/18 07:26 PM
09/12/18 07:26 PM
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Actually, on established perennial clover plots, you can spray gly at a reduced rate, about 1 1/4 quart per acre and get a good kill, without hurting the clover. With my sprayer, it takes 20 gallons to cover an acre driving about 6 mph. I use 2ozs/gallon and always get a good kill, but the clover survives, as long as its not stressed. This time of the year is not the optimum time for trying this. May spraying really cleans up a clover plot nicely. 1 1/4 qt per acre is not very reduced.
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Re: Pained me to spray clover
[Re: muzziehead]
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09/12/18 07:53 PM
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Clover is hard to kill. I've sprayed it with gly then disked it and it came back as thick as ever.
Last edited by 2Dogs; 09/13/18 05:49 AM.
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Re: Pained me to spray clover
[Re: blumsden]
#2578138
09/13/18 08:56 AM
09/13/18 08:56 AM
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2 qts/acre is the recommended gly rate. Recommended for what? I sprayed 1 QT per on mine 3 weeks ago, had Crab grass, Johnson Grass and several others. There's more plant life on the moon than in my plots. If memory serves , the paper with the jug just calls for a pint per using 41% for Crabgrass .
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Re: Pained me to spray clover
[Re: muzziehead]
#2578195
09/13/18 10:10 AM
09/13/18 10:10 AM
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Last year I planted the WMS Mississippi blend and really had not been down to club much this summer to check the plots. After bushhogging them to prep for spraying and planting I was surprised to find a nice patch of clover in every plot where we planted the WMS blend. Years ago we planted 3 plots in Whitetail Imperial clover and they did great and the deer grazed them all summer but come fall they just quit hitting them, despite our efforts to attract them. I hated to spray all that clover, especially when I think back about how hard we worked to establish those original 3 plots years ago.
What do you do with plots on your place if you have a decent stand of clover? I dont have a drill planter so that is not an option. I tried to reconfigure some of the plots so I could keep some of the clover on each plot, at least a 15' wide strip around the edge. dont kill it, if you have clover still I would just broadcast my seed into and then mow it. theres no point in planting it if youre just going to try and kill it to plant. or you could spray it will 24db and clethodium and everything except the clover will die
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Re: Pained me to spray clover
[Re: blumsden]
#2578356
09/13/18 01:30 PM
09/13/18 01:30 PM
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A Farmer friend said folks who use small 4 wheeler , tractor , backpack and hand sprayers tend to mix it way too hot and put out way too much. He suggested to me for plots a 2% mix and get out 1 Qt per acre . He said that is actually a little stouter than what they would spray. His numbers have always worked fine for me. Blum, I've seen on those huntin' forums guys talking bout mixing it at 4 and 5 % , but never mentioning how much to get out per acre. At 4% they better have a fast tractor or they are waaaay hot.
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Re: Pained me to spray clover
[Re: muzziehead]
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09/20/18 04:44 PM
09/20/18 04:44 PM
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Well, I checked the plots today and whatever weeds were present are all dead but the clover seemed to withstand the assault. We are starting to disc next week and plan to plant next weekend if it doesnt get to wet. I guess if the clover returns, so be it. But this year I have decided to stick with BFO, wheat and triticale and topdress some WMS brassica blend. Here is a pic typical of all our plots. Most are 1 -1 1/2 acres. I left about 1/4 acre of clover in the high grass which I will mow before opening day.
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Re: Pained me to spray clover
[Re: RiverWood]
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09/20/18 05:31 PM
09/20/18 05:31 PM
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Looks like you could get by simply top sowing just ahead of a rain. That’s a good looking field to disc I have never had much luck with top sowing BFO. Now wheat is not so much of a problem. We plant a lot of BFO and I am willing to turn under that clover to ensure we have good standing plots of oats. I am pretty sure that most of that clover will come back even after it has been disc.
"Don't cling to Mistake, just because you spent a lot of time making it."
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