Thought I would share this presentation. Perhaps you might want to share this with some of your respective state's biologists.

https://texasdeerassociation.com/wp...R ... UT-CWD.pdf

BOTTOM LINE ON CWD PREVENTION AND CONTROL EFFORTS (DR. DEER, James Kroll)

A review of the literature based on actual data (not predictive models) clearly shows that that
any past combination of quarantines, containment zones, surveillance zones, depopulation,
elective harvest, increased harvest limits, supplemental feeding bans, baiting bans, bans
on the importation of live cervid species, bans on the importation, of carcasses, bans on
the importation of trophies, and bans on urine based lures, HAVE NOT been effective in
preventing, controlling, or eradicating CWD in any State. These programs have cost in
excess of $100,000,000 of public funding and the killing of thousands of deer without any
measurable positive results.

I looked forward to reading this, but the breeders association's website says this now on that link:

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If you have another link to this and can post, that would be cool. Would love to read it.

Not sure if this is the same link the OP is referring to but I believe it is.

https://texasdeerassociation.com/wp...RRENT-SCIENTIFIC-KNOWLEDGE-ABOUT-CWD.pdf

Thanks, Grimlock.

Just based on the statement from Dr. Kroll, it would seem that it is just a matter of when, not if, CWD is confirmed in AL. I am in the dark on the subject, but obviously need to do some research. Any threat to humans, livestock, or other animals? Once it reaches here, will it be safe to consume venison?

I agree that none of the methods, bans, etc, have made any dent in the spread or containment of CWD....the crap moves in the trailer behind the truck, not in a bottle of deer pee.

The article he linked even included transport of live cervids as an ineffective method.

I don't see how one can deduce that banning interstate transportation of deer as ineffective. The problem isn't the deer you know about, it's the ones you dont.

this^^^^, the only effective method of prevention is stopping truck transport of live cervids...PERIOD. The bastards didn't walk here from Colorado........

AMEN👍

Actually the only way to prevent it from spreading is to stop the transfer of anything into the state. I guess just high fence the whole state. But then there are the birds so eventually some cwd prions are gonna make it's way here and deer will come into contact with it.

If people actually obeyed the bans it would slow the spread of CWD, but they don’t.

If there's any proven research showing birds can transmit the prions I'd like to see it. It's one of the questions I have about possible transfer.

I don't know if they can or can't. I know it gets in the ground and can't be killed so common sense tells me anything that comes in contact with infected dirt has the potential to pick it up and spread it. My research and understanding of CWD is limited so if I am wrong let me know.

Just more propaganda from the captive industry. Both sides have it though. There is middle ground to be had. The middle ground does NOT include continued movement of cervids from any area near a hot zone. Just plain stupid and not worth the risk.

Sounds plausible, Powpow65. One question I've had for a long time, and no one has any definitive, proven, research-confirmed answers is whether avian or canine scavengers can somehow transmit the prions.

Birds and wolves or coyotes don't discriminate when they're eating muscle or brain or spinal cord or whatever. Could they ingest something, not get sick and move the prions elsewhere? Could get ingest something and then go die, and transmit the prions to that spot? Crows and ravens fly a long ways. Magpies out west scavenge. Have no idea if they can get and transmit it, but I think it's probably worth looking into. Maybe someone is.

If saliva can transmit the prions to plants and the plants retain them, which I belive has been confirmed, then urine probably can. How could you stop that? Feeding and urine bans won't stop that, not with all the urine already spread around for decades.

Lot of questions and not a whole lot of confirmed, research-proven answers. Quite an interesting mystery.

It will be a mystery for a while. Lots of fine minds researching it though.

Although I plan to read the linked report, I certainly have my box of Morton's handy instead of a grain since it comes from the breeder's association.

Nighthunter, if saliva can transmit to plants and urine is being banned as a "it may" deal, is the semen used and sold for breeding tested or can it be tested?

Who, without googling, can tell me what a prion is?

My understanding it there is no way to test it, at least yet. Semen sales is a head scratcher, kinda, but you know the obvious reason it hasn’t been put on the banned list with urine in any state. At least that Im aware of.

There is research going on with a live test using rectal tissue but it doesn’t pop as a positive in early onset. This test is somewhat promising but as an industry (wildlife as a whole, breeders included) we are still a long way off from where we need to be.

Like I said, I honestly believe there is middle ground where agencies and the captive industry can settle.