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Re: Rifle advice
[Re: BradB]
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08/17/18 09:26 PM
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Since elk are on the menu, I would suggest either a 30-06 or 300 win mag. If he isn't an experienced shooter, stay away from the magnum. A Ruger American is a good rifle at a good price.
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Re: Rifle advice
[Re: BradB]
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08/17/18 10:30 PM
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Check out eurooptic they had sum tikkas on clearance but won't last long I think I bought the last 30-06 but saw a 300 today if not the ruger American and Mossberg patriot would be my next 2
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin
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Re: Rifle advice
[Re: BradB]
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08/17/18 10:51 PM
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Everything previously mentioned would be a great budget rifle. The Model 7 and the Howa are gonna be a little more than the American. I love a Model 7, but honestly all your gaining there is a gun that is shorter and lighter than the Ruger American. It will not shoot any better.
Personally since he's gonna be shooting at elk I like the ability to shoot 180's from the 30-06 or the .308. The 30-06 would still have a little more horsepower than the 308 though.
The Ruger American 30-06 will have a 22 inch barrel and honestly isn't that heavy. I hunted with one for about 3 years and other than wishing I had a shorter barrel when sitting in a very tight shooting house, I never wished I had a different gun.
Last edited by gundoc; 08/17/18 10:52 PM.
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Re: Rifle advice
[Re: BradB]
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08/18/18 05:23 AM
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If the budget is $500 or less, Ruger American. Calibers that would work well out there are .30-06, .270, 7mm-08, .308
If she can go low $600, Tikka T3. Now you can add 7mm mag, .300 Win mag, and .25-06 to the possibles.
If she can stretch to $725, the Kimber 84L/84M Hunter is the finest new rifle currently available without going over $1200, and opens up the possibility of the .280 Ackley. Very near 7mm Rem Mag performance with .308 level recoil. I can point her (or anyone else) to a couple of dealers on Gunbroker who will sell for this price
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Re: Rifle advice
[Re: BradB]
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08/18/18 07:21 AM
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Since it's Utah I'm saying 30-06 and 165s for mulies and 180 Partitions for elk. Rifle brand Isn't as important as good scope&sling
Only hits count.
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Re: Rifle advice
[Re: BradB]
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08/18/18 01:31 PM
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Budget mountain rifle? I'd say savage also. For a little bit more, maybe a Tikka.
I assume weight will be a consideration, but maybe not.
30-06 is a good choice. 300 WM and 300WSM are also strong considerations.
It's a great gesture but I'm not sure I'd want my OL buying me a rifle.
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Re: Rifle advice
[Re: BradB]
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08/18/18 06:00 PM
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We can do gear calculations if you want. There are over 2,000 steps per mile, I’ve learned in the world’s most harsh conditions that footwear, ammo, and water is what will drag you down the most. So for every extra pound of gear thats one ton of non essential weight moved per mile. You wanna know how many calories that is per day, water intake, or MRE’s to eat?
I’ll drag any rifle up ALMOST any mountain without trouble, its who I am.
Don’t get me wrong, girly men need light rifles. I choose the Ruger 77 Guide because there is NOTHING that can put it out of commission.
The OP never specified anything other than price and his intentions with the last two words of his post.
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Re: Rifle advice
[Re: AU7MM08]
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08/18/18 06:14 PM
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I'd say so if he's killed men with a knife..
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin
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Re: Rifle advice
[Re: JohnnyLoco]
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08/18/18 07:16 PM
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You watching too many movies or it's that dang rainbow 6 loco.... Dang nitro that's a biggun.... ...Chuck Norris aint got Sit on you...
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Re: Rifle advice
[Re: BradB]
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08/18/18 09:57 PM
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I like the Ruger American too but I’d take .308 over 30-06. Might just be me. I shot 06s for years and years. But I’m a short action man now. I’ve had 7-08, .308, .243 and now 6.5 Creedmoor. The .308 might just be the best of all of em. But I ain’t let the air out of nothing yet with the Creedmoor.
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Re: Rifle advice
[Re: BradB]
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08/18/18 10:15 PM
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I love my X-bolt they don't get much love and I don't know why. Super accurate, light, low recoil and feels good. Tons of options.
I think the A-bolt was so popular that people just don't like new stuff sometimes.
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Re: Rifle advice
[Re: BCLC]
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08/19/18 09:22 AM
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All these rifles would work but they're all so blasé and boring. This fella obviously needs a FWT Model 70 in 7x57 with a 6x42 Meopta mounted in a set of Talley LW's loaded with 175gr Nosler Partitions or 160gr Barnes TSX OR maybe that's just what I'd want my ol' lady to buy me Only if you roll your own ammo. I've had a ruger m77 7X57 since '84 and shoot 150 partitions in it. My brother got a M70 featherweight super grade a couple years ago and I'm loading 139 gr Hornady SP for him. Always been a fan of the 275 Rigby.
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Re: Rifle advice
[Re: AU338MAG]
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08/19/18 11:11 AM
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Only if you roll your own ammo. I've had a ruger m77 7X57 since '84 and shoot 150 partitions in it. My brother got a M70 featherweight super grade a couple years ago and I'm loading 139 gr Hornady SP for him.
Always been a fan of the 275 Rigby.
One of the very few rifles I truly regretted selling was a stainless M77 RSI in 7x57 that was barrel stamped .275 Rigby Sounds like your brother has a really nice rifle. A supergrade 7x57 is real high on my rifle bucket list.
We’re not dead. We just smell that way. Dayum. - AC870
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Re: Rifle advice
[Re: JohnnyLoco]
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08/19/18 09:19 PM
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We can do gear calculations if you want. There are over 2,000 steps per mile, I’ve learned in the world’s most harsh conditions that footwear, ammo, and water is what will drag you down the most. So for every extra pound of gear thats one ton of non essential weight moved per mile. You wanna know how many calories that is per day, water intake, or MRE’s to eat?
I’ll drag any rifle up ALMOST any mountain without trouble, its who I am.
Don’t get me wrong, girly men need light rifles. I choose the Ruger 77 Guide because there is NOTHING that can put it out of commission.
The OP never specified anything other than price and his intentions with the last two words of his post.
I'm howling.
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Re: Rifle advice
[Re: JohnnyLoco]
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08/20/18 07:43 AM
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I’ve never seen where weight or mountains was a factor. I tote a Ruger Guide gun on altitude trips but my shoes only weigh 1 lb. So you wear shoes ? pffftttt. . I go bare foot. Saves that extra pound for when I carry my 45 -70 at 10,000 feet. But that's just me. But I also don't carry bullets and beat the Dahl sheep with my butt stock after sneaking up on them. To the o.p. in all seriousness if your gonna be hiking and climbing every pound will count. Lot's of options there just go light as you can without sacrificing accuracy.
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Re: Rifle advice
[Re: BradB]
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08/20/18 08:14 AM
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For $500 a new Weatherby Vanguard would be my pick. Under that price - Ruger American. Over that price the options are pretty endless you can get a very nice used rifle for $600 that anyone would be proud to own. Not some beat up piece.
If i were to pick a caliber on a new rifle for this dynamic duo of game animals it would be the 7 Mag. Without a doubt. This has got 7 Mag written all over it.
CDNN has a couple Ruger M77's sub $500 that would work. They have a .280 and 30-06. I would probably go for the .270 with Green Hogue stock. $449 you'll be in that under $500 with shipping and transfer fee. I can't remember what CDNN charges to ship.
If those calibers work... For the money you can't beat a M77 Ruger at those prices.
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Re: Rifle advice
[Re: UncleHuck]
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08/20/18 08:18 AM
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7mm-08 is the modern version of the 7x57, and it's a lot easier to find good ammo
Some of us are not interested in the modern version...
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
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Re: Rifle advice
[Re: BradB]
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08/20/18 04:15 PM
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If it were me id go with either a 7mm or 300. If he had the coin I am selling my 300 sender, with the break it kicks about like a 223.
Only accurate rifles are interesting.
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Re: Rifle advice
[Re: AU338MAG]
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08/20/18 06:25 PM
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7mm-08 is the modern version of the 7x57, and it's a lot easier to find good ammo
Some of us are not interested in the modern version...
We’re not dead. We just smell that way. Dayum. - AC870
Yessir! I’m always gonna shoot what makes me happy and I want everyone else to do the same! If you shoot one be proud of it and don’t worry what anyone else thinks. - SJ22
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