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Best fall food plot................. #2550389
08/12/18 05:51 PM
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for deer and turkey in sandy loamy soils? I hunt where 75% of our fields are this type soil. We have a few that are clay mix but looking for a good seed mix that will grow well.


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Re: Best fall food plot................. [Re: Bamaturkeykilla] #2550408
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Tuscaloosa Co.
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Re: Best fall food plot................. [Re: Bamaturkeykilla] #2550419
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Corn you planted in may.

Re: Best fall food plot................. [Re: jwalker77] #2550424
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Originally Posted by jwalker77
Corn you planted in may.


Corn will be gone by December. I need something to make it to spring for the turkeys besides crimson clover. They gonna get corn regardless if it's planted or not.


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Re: Best fall food plot................. [Re: Bamaturkeykilla] #2550425
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Crickets.


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Re: Best fall food plot................. [Re: Bamaturkeykilla] #2550442
08/12/18 06:23 PM
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Wheat/oats/clover.

Re: Best fall food plot................. [Re: SouthBamaSlayer] #2550449
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Originally Posted by SouthBamaSlayer
Wheat/oats/clover.


We have done that and have two plots that don't hardly do sheeeit regardless of the fertilizer or ammonia nitrate we throw out. Some do ok with that but two of em totally tank every year.


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Re: Best fall food plot................. [Re: Bamaturkeykilla] #2550453
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Originally Posted by Bamaturkeykilla
Originally Posted by SouthBamaSlayer
Wheat/oats/clover.


We have done that and have two plots that don't hardly do sheeeit regardless of the fertilizer or ammonia nitrate we throw out. Some do ok with that but two of em totally tank every year.

Then nothing is gonna grow well until you get your soil right.

Re: Best fall food plot................. [Re: SouthBamaSlayer] #2550467
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Originally Posted by SouthBamaSlayer
Originally Posted by Bamaturkeykilla
Originally Posted by SouthBamaSlayer
Wheat/oats/clover.


We have done that and have two plots that don't hardly do sheeeit regardless of the fertilizer or ammonia nitrate we throw out. Some do ok with that but two of em totally tank every year.

Then nothing is gonna grow well until you get your soil right.


We put out lime back in May on all our plots. Doubled up on these two bad ones. They should be coming into their own come December cuz we went exactly by the guidelines the soil samples set out for us.


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Re: Best fall food plot................. [Re: Bamaturkeykilla] #2550472
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Then I refer to my previous recommendation.

Re: Best fall food plot................. [Re: SouthBamaSlayer] #2550478
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Originally Posted by SouthBamaSlayer
Then I refer to my previous recommendation.


It will go out as scheduled whether it makes or not cuz we keep it in our budget. Maybe I should have specified more. Will broadleafs such as rape, chicory, radishes, and or winter peas work into this or anything else I could put into it. We are open to any seed mix as long as it will grow in this soil. Money for planting isn't an issue. We can cover that side of it. We don't wanna buy anything extra for these two if they won't grow in this type soil. Even if we can afford it we don't wanna throw our money away if we can't get any production out of it.


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Re: Best fall food plot................. [Re: Bamaturkeykilla] #2550490
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Oats,clover,triticale


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Re: Best fall food plot................. [Re: ridgestalker] #2550494
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Originally Posted by ridgestalker
Oats,clover,triticale


That combo is hard to beat.



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Re: Best fall food plot................. [Re: 2Dogs] #2550500
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Re: Best fall food plot................. [Re: ridgestalker] #2550503
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Originally Posted by ridgestalker
Oats,clover,triticale


I assume you mean crimson clover? We have been doing that just not the triticale.


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Re: Best fall food plot................. [Re: Bamaturkeykilla] #2550525
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Triticale is a mixed version of rye/wheat. Produces tonnage.

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Re: Best fall food plot................. [Re: Bamaturkeykilla] #2550548
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I've had good luck mixing rape in with my fall plots....it grows well in the sandy soil and the deer seem to prefer it after it's had a good frost on it.

Re: Best fall food plot................. [Re: Bamaturkeykilla] #2550621
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I buy a mix with triticale,oats,wheat,winter peas and a radish that does well on my sandy loam. I add more Buck Forage oats to it and top with Apache Arrowleaf clover, a red clover and last year Berseem clover.

Re: Best fall food plot................. [Re: Bamaturkeykilla] #2552093
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Some research on aces.edu publications would be beneficial. For sandy soil like Macon county AL, I've had success with cereal rye, rye grass (maybe not as palatable for deer), arrowleaf clover (which will carry you beyond the crimson production), white clover (ladino, which is perennial). Whatever you do, you will have to fertilize and lime more frequently in sandy soil due to nutrient leeching (not necessarily the same amount with other soils, just more frequently).

Re: Best fall food plot................. [Re: Bamaturkeykilla] #2552146
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repeat after me Buck Forage Oats.. next

didn't read for turkey..

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