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Contact the DCNR #2549855
08/11/18 06:57 PM
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Past Ol’ man Finley’s plac...
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I’m not trying to go “49er” on y’all but I am pissed off that the CAB voted to take turkey hunting days away from us for no biological reason. In case you missed it the CAB voted to move the turkey opener to the 3rd Saturday in March from now on. Fred Harders, the assistant director of Wildlife and Freshwater Fisheries had this to say about the change....

“It’s a day that just about everybody has off,” Harders said. “If it comes in on a Thursday and you’re in a hunting club where you’re the only person who can get off on Thursday, it gives you a big advantage over everybody else.”

So...... NO biological reason for making the change. Just taking days away so Fred and his buddies can hunt opening day. Anyway, I’m going to send these clowns an email every day until I get a response back from them. Here is Fred’s contact info:

Fred Harders, Assistant Director
(334) 242-3465
dcnr.wffdirector@dcnr.alabama.gov

Last edited by Southwood7; 08/11/18 07:00 PM.


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Re: Contact the DCNR [Re: Southwood7] #2549874
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I voiced my opinions on the subject after that meeting adjourned. They seemed confused when I shot holes in their “logic.” I spoke to several and even the ones on the board that are “looking out for us” didn’t have a problem with it changing.

By all means flood them with calls and emails. I told them that they would get some serious pushback from it, but they acted like I didn’t know what I was talking about.


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Re: Contact the DCNR [Re: Southwood7] #2549877
08/11/18 07:36 PM
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I wish Aunt Bea would kick Chuckies sorry arse out and be done with it. I think hes the root of most all of the BS coming out of the CAB and DCNR

Re: Contact the DCNR [Re: Southwood7] #2549879
08/11/18 07:39 PM
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That little ainsworth fucker gonna be gov next. Then weee all screwed


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Re: Contact the DCNR [Re: Southwood7] #2550054
08/12/18 07:52 AM
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Harders said. “If it comes in on a Thursday and you’re in a hunting club where you’re the only person who can get off on Thursday, it gives you a big advantage over everybody else.”


Fred Harders, Assistant Director
(334) 242-3465
dcnr.wffdirector@dcnr.alabama.gov[/quote]

Thats exactly right! That's the reward shift workers get for working weekends when everyone else is off! And the reason the die hards save vacation every year!

They aren't worried about making the majority happy just the chosen few that pull the strings!


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Re: Contact the DCNR [Re: North40R] #2550067
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Originally Posted by North40R


Harders said. “If it comes in on a Thursday and you’re in a hunting club where you’re the only person who can get off on Thursday, it gives you a big advantage over everybody else.”


Fred Harders, Assistant Director
(334) 242-3465
dcnr.wffdirector@dcnr.alabama.gov


Thats exactly right! That's the reward shift workers get for working weekends when everyone else is off! And the reason the die hards save vacation every year!

They aren't worried about making the majority happy just the chosen few that pull the strings![/quote]



You get it, life is full of choices , blow all your vacation days in Gulf Shores cry or save some for killin' stuff. It ain't hard.

CAB has the " everybody gets a trophy" mentality .



"Why do you ask"?

Always vote the slowest path to socialism.







Re: Contact the DCNR [Re: Southwood7] #2550114
08/12/18 10:01 AM
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March 2020, it looks like the 3rd Saturday would be March 21st?? We lose 6 days of a 45 day season! That really sucks. 13% fewer days to hunt in 2020.

Re: Contact the DCNR [Re: bwhunter] #2550179
08/12/18 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by bwhunter
March 2020, it looks like the 3rd Saturday would be March 21st?? We lose 6 days of a 45 day season! That really sucks. 13% fewer days to hunt in 2020.



But the good news is that the limit will be down to 2 by then so you won't need those days anyway.

smile


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Re: Contact the DCNR [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #2550212
08/12/18 02:09 PM
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chris.blankenship@dcnr.alabama.gov

dcnr.wffdirector@dcnr.alabama.gov

dcnr.wffdirector@dcnr.alabama.gov

Blankenship, Sykes and Harders all got an email from me. Y’all send them them a quick note instead of us just bitching amongst ourselves.

Re: Contact the DCNR [Re: Southwood7] #2550230
08/12/18 02:38 PM
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Just curious, what are y’all saying in these emails? I probably should refrain from saying what I want to say.

Re: Contact the DCNR [Re: Southwood7] #2550319
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A major turkey study is underway in the south east as many of y'all know. ....And it's pointing heavily towards laters season openers. Prescribed burning practices are in question. Turkey fertility/breeding cycle is in question. Of course predation is a major issue. I think this is the tip of the iceberg........ but I hope I'm incorrect.

Re: Contact the DCNR [Re: Southwood7] #2550343
08/12/18 05:24 PM
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Y'all should be more pissed off that a person sitting on the Advisory Board who brought up this turkey stuff and voted on all other proposals resigned her board seat just a couple of weeks after this May meeting because she was moving to Georgia.

Y'all really believe at the time of the Board meeting that she didn't know she was going to resign and move just weeks later? Or that anyone else at DCNR or involved with the Board didn't know?

The Board has had meetings and votes in the past with a member absent for whatever reason. Her sitting in the meeting, making proposals and voting on issues but then resigning just weeks later reeks of BS.


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Re: Contact the DCNR [Re: Clem] #2550482
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Originally Posted by Clem

Y'all should be more pissed off that a person sitting on the Advisory Board who brought up this turkey stuff and voted on all other proposals resigned her board seat just a couple of weeks after this May meeting because she was moving to Georgia.

Y'all really believe at the time of the Board meeting that she didn't know she was going to resign and move just weeks later? Or that anyone else at DCNR or involved with the Board didn't know?

The Board has had meetings and votes in the past with a member absent for whatever reason. Her sitting in the meeting, making proposals and voting on issues but then resigning just weeks later reeks of BS.





Bingo.

Re: Contact the DCNR [Re: Clem] #2550483
08/12/18 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Clem

Y'all should be more pissed off that a person sitting on the Advisory Board who brought up this turkey stuff and voted on all other proposals resigned her board seat just a couple of weeks after this May meeting because she was moving to Georgia.

Y'all really believe at the time of the Board meeting that she didn't know she was going to resign and move just weeks later? Or that anyone else at DCNR or involved with the Board didn't know?

The Board has had meetings and votes in the past with a member absent for whatever reason. Her sitting in the meeting, making proposals and voting on issues but then resigning just weeks later reeks of BS.





She resigned her city council seat within days of the CAB debacle . She knew dang well she was leaving Alabama. Far as I know she was the only CAB member ever from Jackson County, what a disappointment. Chuck gonna have to look long and hard to replace a puppet like her.

Last edited by 2Dogs; 08/12/18 07:18 PM.


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Re: Contact the DCNR [Re: Gobl4me] #2550489
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Originally Posted by Gobl4me
A major turkey study is underway in the south east as many of y'all know. ....And it's pointing heavily towards laters season openers. Prescribed burning practices are in question. Turkey fertility/breeding cycle is in question. Of course predation is a major issue. I think this is the tip of the iceberg........ but I hope I'm incorrect.


I was in a club in Lee County back in the early to mid 2000's and me and another member killed turkeys that had receivers on their legs. We drove to the Barbour County management area cuz that was the closest one we knew of and turned them in. The GW there told us AU was doing a study and this was vital that they got these back. He also told us we would get information back on these if we gave him our information. So we did, and 15 years later we are still waiting.
If I ever kill another one I will take it to anyone besides a state employee and have them get the information for me even if I have to pay to have this done.


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Re: Contact the DCNR [Re: Southwood7] #2550491
08/12/18 07:14 PM
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I guess my point is these studies have been going for a long time whether they publicize them or not and they are gonna hide the information every time.


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Re: Contact the DCNR [Re: 2Dogs] #2550497
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Originally Posted by 2Dogs
Originally Posted by Clem

Y'all should be more pissed off that a person sitting on the Advisory Board who brought up this turkey stuff and voted on all other proposals resigned her board seat just a couple of weeks after this May meeting because she was moving to Georgia.

Y'all really believe at the time of the Board meeting that she didn't know she was going to resign and move just weeks later? Or that anyone else at DCNR or involved with the Board didn't know?

The Board has had meetings and votes in the past with a member absent for whatever reason. Her sitting in the meeting, making proposals and voting on issues but then resigning just weeks later reeks of BS.





She resigned her city council seat within days of the CAB debacle . She knew dang well she was leaving Alabama. Far as I know she was the only CAB member ever from Jackson County, what a disappointment.


Of all the people that could represent us, I'd like to know how she got on the board and I'd also like to know who pushed her to bring that stooopid chit up! I'm starting March 1....screw'em.


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Re: Contact the DCNR [Re: foldemup] #2550518
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Originally Posted by foldemup
Originally Posted by 2Dogs
Originally Posted by Clem

Y'all should be more pissed off that a person sitting on the Advisory Board who brought up this turkey stuff and voted on all other proposals resigned her board seat just a couple of weeks after this May meeting because she was moving to Georgia.

Y'all really believe at the time of the Board meeting that she didn't know she was going to resign and move just weeks later? Or that anyone else at DCNR or involved with the Board didn't know?

The Board has had meetings and votes in the past with a member absent for whatever reason. Her sitting in the meeting, making proposals and voting on issues but then resigning just weeks later reeks of BS.





She resigned her city council seat within days of the CAB debacle . She knew dang well she was leaving Alabama. Far as I know she was the only CAB member ever from Jackson County, what a disappointment.


Of all the people that could represent us, I'd like to know how she got on the board and I'd also like to know who pushed her to bring that stooopid chit up! I'm starting March 1....screw'em.


Chuck Sykes is the answer to both your queries , they were very cozy well before she was on the CAB.



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Re: Contact the DCNR [Re: foldemup] #2550707
08/12/18 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by foldemup

I'm starting March 1....screw'em.


You talk too much!......

That's all I got to say about that!


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Re: Contact the DCNR [Re: Southwood7] #2550710
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Turkey hunting is to be done in April imo. Got no problem with the date change.

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