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Re: Tractor Decision
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Im starting to do some of my own learning and research on all colors of tractors because I will be buying one at some point in the next year. Right of the bat I was stunned at the price difference when comparing tractors of different brands but in the same horse power class. You can't just go by HP. There are 50 hp compact tractors and 50 hp utility tractors. The utility class will weigh much more have heavier frame, gearing and such. That's what RobertD's post is getting at. All those horses don't do much good if you can't get them to the ground. Granted, there are $ differences when comparing like machines. The green and orange ones tend to be higher.
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Re: Tractor Decision
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All you green guys must not have to deal with Tri green We rarely deal with the dealership at all. That's another reason to buy green tractors.
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Re: Tractor Decision
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All you green guys must not have to deal with Tri green Not if I can help it.
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Re: Tractor Decision
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All you green guys must not have to deal with Tri green We rarely deal with the dealership at all. That's another reason to buy green tractors. shucks tri green won’t even have filters in stock
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Re: Tractor Decision
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All you green guys must not have to deal with Tri green We rarely deal with the dealership at all. That's another reason to buy green tractors. shucks tri green won’t even have filters in stock Yep , went in the Scottsboro store mid- last summer for a set of blades for a MX-7 bush hog , of course they didn't have them . Went down the street and got a set of Bush Hog brand that would fit, cheaper than JD to boot.
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Re: Tractor Decision
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Just gotta know who to deal with at trigreen.
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Re: Tractor Decision
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Find a gently used JD 5205 ( or similar model ) 4X4 with loader. This X 100. A 5000 series Deere (or similar weight in other tractor brands) is heavy enough to work and use the loader without 4wd. That size tractor is a completely different animal than a compact utility tractor, where 4wd is essential to get acceptable performance with a loader. Are the 5055e as good as the older 5205?
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Re: Tractor Decision
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Find a gently used JD 5205 ( or similar model ) 4X4 with loader. This X 100. A 5000 series Deere (or similar weight in other tractor brands) is heavy enough to work and use the loader without 4wd. That size tractor is a completely different animal than a compact utility tractor, where 4wd is essential to get acceptable performance with a loader. Are the 5055e as good as the older 5205? Google JD5055e problems or something like JD Indian built tractor problems. Look at how many are for sale versus the old 5,000 series . Word is JD is missing the mark on their utility tractors made in India, quality is just not there .
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Re: Tractor Decision
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Google JD5055e problems or something like JD Indian built tractor problems. Look at how many are for sale versus the old 5,000 series . Word is JD is missing the mark on their utility tractors made in India, quality is just not there .
I'm guessing a lot of that has to do with the older tractors don't have the emissions crap on them. For example...the last year the 5205 was manufactured, was also the year that the emissions standards went into effect.
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Re: Tractor Decision
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Google JD5055e problems or something like JD Indian built tractor problems. Look at how many are for sale versus the old 5,000 series . Word is JD is missing the mark on their utility tractors made in India, quality is just not there .
I'm guessing a lot of that has to do with the older tractors don't have the emissions crap on them. For example...the last year the 5205 was manufactured, was also the year that the emissions standards went into effect. Bingo! But it's not just the emissions junk. There's also a load of unnecessary computer crap on the new tractors. Dainty electronics ain't gonna hold up in a dusty 104 degree hayfield. And that's why we run older tractors, and rarely have any problems with them.
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Re: Tractor Decision
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Google JD5055e problems or something like JD Indian built tractor problems. Look at how many are for sale versus the old 5,000 series . Word is JD is missing the mark on their utility tractors made in India, quality is just not there .
I'm guessing a lot of that has to do with the older tractors don't have the emissions crap on them. For example...the last year the 5205 was manufactured, was also the year that the emissions standards went into effect. They have other issues as well , hydraulics . There's a guy on you tube that chronicles his problems, band new and had a bunch of leaks .
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Re: Tractor Decision
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08/10/18 09:57 AM
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I'm re-doing an Alis Chalmers 180 right now. When I say re-do I mean sound mechanically, field ready and likely my own rattle can paint job. Possibly throw some new stickers on it. I've got about $5k in it so far. Hopefully it won't be a POS I've never had one of these before but seems to be easy to work on mechanically. We didn't have any Alis tractors when I was a kid. Next I want to do a White after this one. We had an Oliver 1850 and a White 2-105 as we turned into the 1980's. We had 10-15 tractors at any given time from 50 to 250hp.
I have never thought any particular make was better than another. It has always depended on which models you were comparing. They all had things they tried that didn't really pan out like IH's TA was not the most reliable nor was Ford's Dual Power both after years of use though. The reason Deere has been so successful is in their ability to make better business decisions at the corporate level. They had the vision at the top to navigate some tough markets... and whoever was running that place in the 1980's deserves all the Green tractor fan's admiration and appreciation. They also don't leave their customers hanging. They might want to charge you $75 for a 12" piece of wire with a funny connector on the end of it, but at least they have the wire and you can get it. Other brands that have been long gone for 40 years... good luck with that if you are a weekend food plot warrior.
I don't think the OP is looking for something as old as I would suggest given the budget. He needs something that can be dealer serviced. That's an easy decision. Find the nearest dealer you want to work on the tractor and buy one they can work on. Doesn't have to be a new machine only something they can get parts for and service. $15-20k is healthy budget for a weekend warrior. I could get one helluva tractor for food plots and small acreage maintenance for that all day long.
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Re: Tractor Decision
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08/10/18 10:01 AM
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Find a gently used JD 5205 ( or similar model ) 4X4 with loader. This X 100. A 5000 series Deere (or similar weight in other tractor brands) is heavy enough to work and use the loader without 4wd. That size tractor is a completely different animal than a compact utility tractor, where 4wd is essential to get acceptable performance with a loader. Are the 5055e as good as the older 5205? Google JD5055e problems or something like JD Indian built tractor problems. Look at how many are for sale versus the old 5,000 series . Word is JD is missing the mark on their utility tractors made in India, quality is just not there . I'm looking for a good used tractor with a power reverser type trans on it. Which one(model) would you recommend?
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Re: Tractor Decision
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08/10/18 11:25 AM
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JD 5320 is what comes to mind. Has a true power reverse, bout 65 HP, good machine with none of that new fangled computers and EPA crap.
Any of the 2000-2007 5,000 series are good tractors. I'm not for sure what all has a power reverser , may be all of the 20s? My 5205 has a sycno reverse or something like that, I can idle down and go from forward to reverse with out the clutch . I usually keep the RPMs up and clutch it though.
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Re: Tractor Decision
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08/10/18 11:58 AM
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I don't know how to really suggest one over another because placement of the controls is the key and what one guy likes the next guy doesn't like as much, etc. Newer tractors have levers all over the dern place. Are they in the right spot for you? I think that depends on the person. You really need some seat time before you can make a definitive determination. Everyone is just different in their motor functions and what makes sense brain to hand.... based on the layout of the controls. I don't think the color paint makes much difference here.
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