I'm sure the fact that DC Lupoi, who was investigated by the NCAA for paying for a recruit to get tutoring while he was at UW, had nothing to do with why the kid moved a couple thousand miles.
Yeah, well, I always heard there were three kinds of suns in Kansas: sunshine, sunflowers, and sons-of-bitches.
Re: Linebacker situation just got a little better..
[Re: bobwallace]
#2548007 08/09/1812:36 PM08/09/1812:36 PM
I'm sure the fact that DC Lupoi, who was investigated by the NCAA for paying for a recruit to get tutoring while he was at UW, had nothing to do with why the kid moved a couple thousand miles.
Tell us more Bob, What did the investigation find?
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Re: Linebacker situation just got a little better..
[Re: BC]
#2548038 08/09/1812:52 PM08/09/1812:52 PM
I'm sure the fact that DC Lupoi, who was investigated by the NCAA for paying for a recruit to get tutoring while he was at UW, had nothing to do with why the kid moved a couple thousand miles.
Tell us more Bob, What did the investigation find?
Hell if I know. While we are on the subject, can you tell me what the investigation into AU and, as alhawk referenced above, the "Righteous Reverend" found? I'll wait.
Yeah, well, I always heard there were three kinds of suns in Kansas: sunshine, sunflowers, and sons-of-bitches.
Re: Linebacker situation just got a little better..
[Re: bobwallace]
#2548068 08/09/1801:34 PM08/09/1801:34 PM
I'm sure the fact that DC Lupoi, who was investigated by the NCAA for paying for a recruit to get tutoring while he was at UW, had nothing to do with why the kid moved a couple thousand miles.
Tell us more Bob, What did the investigation find?
Hell if I know. While we are on the subject, can you tell me what the investigation into AU and, as alhawk referenced above, the "Righteous Reverend" found? I'll wait.
I didn't want you to wait too long, because I'm sure you've got better stuff to do. The investigation revealed actual audio evidence of $180,000 being paid to a player's father who didn't want his son to be short-changed. The NCAA got involved and tweaked a rule that had always been enforced. They got away with it, and that's cool, but let's not act like nothing happened and there's no evidence of it.
Re: Linebacker situation just got a little better..
[Re: Remington270]
#2548071 08/09/1801:38 PM08/09/1801:38 PM
I'm sure the fact that DC Lupoi, who was investigated by the NCAA for paying for a recruit to get tutoring while he was at UW, had nothing to do with why the kid moved a couple thousand miles.
Tell us more Bob, What did the investigation find?
Hell if I know. While we are on the subject, can you tell me what the investigation into AU and, as alhawk referenced above, the "Righteous Reverend" found? I'll wait.
I didn't want you to wait too long, because I'm sure you've got better stuff to do. The investigation revealed actual audio evidence of $180,000 being paid to a player's father who didn't want his son to be short-changed. The NCAA got involved and tweaked a rule that had always been enforced. They got away with it, and that's cool, but let's not act like nothing happened and there's no evidence of it.
Thanks for the quick response Rem. Apparently you didn't comprehend what I asked however. I asked for what was found between AU and the Rev, not a school in Starkville. Since you have the time, please post a link to one definitive infraction against AU that came from that investigation. Again, I'll wait.
Yeah, well, I always heard there were three kinds of suns in Kansas: sunshine, sunflowers, and sons-of-bitches.
Re: Linebacker situation just got a little better..
[Re: bobwallace]
#2548093 08/09/1801:56 PM08/09/1801:56 PM
Thanks for the quick response Rem. Apparently you didn't comprehend what I asked however. I asked for what was found between AU and the Rev, not a school in Starkville. Since you have the time, please post a link to one definitive infraction against AU that came from that investigation. Again, I'll wait.
I didn't read where he said Auburn directly had anything to do with any infractions. The fact is Papa Newton shopped his son around to several schools including Mississippi State, but then went to Auburn free of charge. Nothing different can nor will be proven. The thing that makes people mad about the situation was the fact that Auburn went on to win a title with a kid that should have been ineligible. That has always been precedent in NCAA cases involving student athletes who are being investigated for pay for play schemes until said investigation is complete.
What precedent? Remember when Julio and Mark Ingram went fishing with that guy and were immediately ruled ineligible for several weeks while the investigation was completed and only made eligible after they paid restitution? That precedent.
"Some men are mere hunters; others are turkey hunters."
-- Archibald Rutledge
Re: Linebacker situation just got a little better..
[Re: Shaw]
#2548095 08/09/1801:57 PM08/09/1801:57 PM
What precedent? Remember when Julio and Mark Ingram went fishing with that guy and were immediately ruled ineligible for several weeks while the investigation was completed and only made eligible after they paid restitution? That precedent.
All true. But to be required to pay restitution, shouldn't there be proof of something gained in order to pay it back? How do you determine what should be repaid if you can't prove anything was accepted? So you are good with guilty until proven innocent when it comes to an NCAA investigation? You're good with an athlete being ruled ineligible while the NCAA twiddles its thumbs and costing him and the team, instead of retroactively vacating something should evidence prove guilt? Although it was a ridiculously short amount of time, Newton was also ruled ineligible. Only difference between Julio/Ingram and Newton, was the proof that the former did in fact receive an improper benefit.
Yeah, well, I always heard there were three kinds of suns in Kansas: sunshine, sunflowers, and sons-of-bitches.
Re: Linebacker situation just got a little better..
[Re: BC]
#2548133 08/09/1802:56 PM08/09/1802:56 PM
What precedent? Remember when Julio and Mark Ingram went fishing with that guy and were immediately ruled ineligible for several weeks while the investigation was completed and only made eligible after they paid restitution? That precedent.
All true. But to be required to pay restitution, shouldn't there be proof of something gained in order to pay it back? How do you determine what should be repaid if you can't prove anything was accepted? So you are good with guilty until proven innocent when it comes to an NCAA investigation? You're good with an athlete being ruled ineligible while the NCAA twiddles its thumbs and costing him and the team, instead of retroactively vacating something should evidence prove guilt? Although it was a ridiculously short amount of time, Newton was also ruled ineligible. Only difference between Julio/Ingram and Newton, was the proof that the former did in fact receive an improper benefit.
When a player (or representative) stands accused of receiving or attempting to receive improper benefits, it is standard practice for the NCAA to immediately rule that student athlete ineligible until such time as his name is cleared or they find proof of wrongdoing. In Cam’s case the NCAA had tapes of his dad shopping him to State. That should have been an immediate rule for ineligibility until the NCAA determined if money changed hands. They ruled him ineligible for about 27 minutes and continued to let him play despite a scandal hanging over his head. They did not clear Auburn University of wrongdoing until October 2011, over 10 months after Newton had played his final game and was long gone and untouchable at that point. No other player in America would have gotten that treatment.
Would it have been fair to Auburn? Probably not, but that’s the risk you take signing damaged goods.
"Some men are mere hunters; others are turkey hunters."
-- Archibald Rutledge
Re: Linebacker situation just got a little better..
[Re: GomerPyle]
#2548243 08/09/1805:00 PM08/09/1805:00 PM