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Re: Why Folks Will Vote for Walt Maddox
[Re: doekiller]
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07/30/18 12:15 PM
07/30/18 12:15 PM
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Dang sure don't want to tick folks off here but why is it that teachers are always under-represented and underpaid?
I'm an odd ball on this. But, my wife is a teacher. She has a master's degree. I don't think she is underpaid. Now, could she make more in another profession with the same level of education? Probably. But, her benefits are worth at $15,000- $20,000 a year to us with insurance cost these days. Her retirement is better than most other jobs out there. Also, the time off cannot be matched. Now, it is not true that they only work 8-3 and get summers off. She has to be at work my 7:30 every morning (and if she is, she is later than normal) and she can't leave before 3:30 and usually doesn't leave until 4:30 or later. They really only get about 6 weeks off in the summer. (I know it is more than I have ever gotten) But, bottom line, she makes, with benefits factored in, a good salary. My thoughts exactly. Teachers are no different than any other state employee. They dang sure aren’t under-represented, all you hear down there is teachers and LE.
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Re: Why Folks Will Vote for Walt Maddox
[Re: top cat]
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07/30/18 12:31 PM
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Posts: 30,910 Clanton, AL
Out back
Grumpy Old Man
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No doubt it's a mental illness. And, in my opinion, anyone who still believes himself to be conservative has had plenty of time to leave the democrats. If you're still running with a "D" on the ballot, I have to assume you support their anti American agenda.
My opinions and comments are my own. They do not reflect the position or political opinions of Aldeer or any of the Aldeer administration.
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Re: Why Folks Will Vote for Walt Maddox
[Re: HippieKiller]
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07/30/18 01:14 PM
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My wife also has a Masters and has been out to the school several days already getting prepared for next year. Deduct from her salary also the supplies she pays out of her own pocket because of the parent that will send their kids to school in $200 shoes and no supplies (yes, this was yesterday's Facebook Rant), and the insurance isn't that great. Most, if, they can afford to retire can't afford the sudden insurance rate hike to $900/mos. Teaching is not all that great, nor is it the worst job in the world. It is a calling.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: Why Folks Will Vote for Walt Maddox
[Re: pcamper]
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07/30/18 01:28 PM
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Vernon Tull
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Vernon,
Don’t be fooled by Walter’s deceitful talk. Have you ever heard him say what his position is on education? I can tell you first hand before he became Mayor of Tuscaloosa he worked in the personnel dept for Tuscaloosa city schools. [/b]THE TEACHERS HATED HIM!. [b] He never stood up for teachers when they needed him. After he was elected Mayor, he started his annual “Mayors Pre-K Run” People thought how wonderful that is, honestly, it was a political stunt. When Paul Hubbard’s health started to decline, he personally asked Walter to take over AEA. Walter said NO because there were to many republicans in the Legislature, he didnt think he could get anything done. Is this who you want representing you? I'm not campaigning for him here. I voted for Tommy Battle from HSV. I thought he was a reasonable choice.
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Re: Why Folks Will Vote for Walt Maddox
[Re: jawbone]
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07/30/18 02:21 PM
07/30/18 02:21 PM
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doekiller
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My wife also has a Masters and has been out to the school several days already getting prepared for next year. Deduct from her salary also the supplies she pays out of her own pocket because of the parent that will send their kids to school in $200 shoes and no supplies (yes, this was yesterday's Facebook Rant), and the insurance isn't that great. Most, if, they can afford to retire can't afford the sudden insurance rate hike to $900/mos. Teaching is not all that great, nor is it the worst job in the world. It is a calling.
Tell me a better insurance these days. Especially for the cost for family coverage. Even $900 is cheaper than most people are paying. As for spending your own money. Yes, my wife has done that in the past. But, a lot of that depends on the system where they work.
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Re: Why Folks Will Vote for Walt Maddox
[Re: Vernon Tull]
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07/30/18 03:04 PM
07/30/18 03:04 PM
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My head is in my ass.
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Gonna zip my lip afore I say something(s) offensive about VT's sources and.............
Don't go looking for TROUBLE, it'll find you soon enough!
There are old, wise men and then there are just old fools. The sooner you learn this, the wiser you will be.
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Re: Why Folks Will Vote for Walt Maddox
[Re: Vernon Tull]
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07/30/18 05:32 PM
07/30/18 05:32 PM
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Posts: 64,043 Luverne, AL
Skinny
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This is going to be a closer election than a lot of people think.
Never Trust Government
"You can be broke but you cant be poor." Ruthie-May Webster
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Re: Why Folks Will Vote for Walt Maddox
[Re: Vernon Tull]
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07/30/18 07:34 PM
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Ivey is the worst kind of swamp creature. She is completely in the pocket of special interests and she is only a figurehead for the office. Her staff is handpicked by the interest groups and they set her agenda and will protect her, which is really to protect the special interest groups. But, she's the horse we've got so we might as well ride her because Walt is only trying to obfuscate his true liberal beliefs with half truths and political BS talk.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
Molon Labe
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Re: Why Folks Will Vote for Walt Maddox
[Re: Vernon Tull]
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07/30/18 07:38 PM
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only an idiot(def of liberal) would vote for Maddox.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
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Re: Why Folks Will Vote for Walt Maddox
[Re: Tmacfire]
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07/30/18 08:44 PM
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Fred you might wanna investigate her ties to the Koch brothers and how they want to change your defined benefit plan. Ivey is in bed with them, well their wives at least if you believe the rumors about Ivey. If you follow any of the Kentucky pension problems, see who helped start it all, Koch and their politicians. You're in bed with some equally crappy people if you're in that farce of a facebook group.
Character is not developed in moments of temptation and trial. That is when it is intended to be used.
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Re: Why Folks Will Vote for Walt Maddox
[Re: scrape]
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07/30/18 09:45 PM
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what I wonder is when someones gonna hold the teachers accountable for not even teaching the kids. who is gonna represent the kids. Is maddox gonna hold them accountable? Let’s start with 20 kids in a class. You have 45 minutes per day with those twenty kids. Class starts. They all sit down. One kid won’t quit talking. It takes 5 minutes to calm the class down given there wasn’t a fistfight or some gossip worthy issue the kids won’t stop being distracted over. Two of them are gonna be constantly distracting, and at least two will be dumb as a sack of hammers. One dumb kid will kill 15 min of teaching time pretty quick. The disrespectful and distracting ones won’t get any discipline if you write them up, because it’s insensitive to the kids. “They have a hard home life” For the guys who are or who have ever been paid by the hour, you know what it’s like 10 min before quitting time. When it’s all said and done, you’re expecting a teacher to manage time better than a NFL coach. At least the NFL coach only has to deal with 11 kids.
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Re: Why Folks Will Vote for Walt Maddox
[Re: Vernon Tull]
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07/30/18 10:21 PM
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jawbone
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There are a lot of PACT members that won't vote for her. They have a strong Facebook group that regularly reminds its members how she screwed them and what she had to say about it.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: Why Folks Will Vote for Walt Maddox
[Re: whack-n-stack]
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07/30/18 11:45 PM
07/30/18 11:45 PM
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scrape
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what I wonder is when someones gonna hold the teachers accountable for not even teaching the kids. who is gonna represent the kids. Is maddox gonna hold them accountable? Let’s start with 20 kids in a class. You have 45 minutes per day with those twenty kids. Class starts. They all sit down. One kid won’t quit talking. It takes 5 minutes to calm the class down given there wasn’t a fistfight or some gossip worthy issue the kids won’t stop being distracted over. Two of them are gonna be constantly distracting, and at least two will be dumb as a sack of hammers. One dumb kid will kill 15 min of teaching time pretty quick. The disrespectful and distracting ones won’t get any discipline if you write them up, because it’s insensitive to the kids. “They have a hard home life” For the guys who are or who have ever been paid by the hour, you know what it’s like 10 min before quitting time. When it’s all said and done, you’re expecting a teacher to manage time better than a NFL coach. At least the NFL coach only has to deal with 11 kids. I think your in agreement with me then. get the paddles back swinging and get some disipline back.
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