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Turning Hogs loose. #2537850
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Got a buddy that has a good bit of land and he has a lot of hogs. He gets pics and kills a bunch of hogs whose ears are hanging off and or ripped off. He says it is from where catch dogs had the hogs and then the hunters let them go. Does this sound right? Why would anyone let the hog go?

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Because they probably don't have to pay for all the trouble the hogs can cause.


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Re: Turning Hogs loose. [Re: Ben2] #2537975
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Up till recently it was common practice to castrate boars and turn them back loose so the meat is better quality. I use to hunt a place in Stateline MS that the landowner would get pissed if you killed a boar hog instead of barring him.

The other option is someone with a bunch of gritty culls is doing a lot hog running and chewing then quitting and not catching many hogs.

There is a landowner in Frankville that traps hogs on his place and kills the sows but Barr’s the boars and cuts their ears off.

Most landowners in south Alabama don’t care about hogs. 90% of the complaining about hogs is from deer hunters that insist on hunting a big corn pile or going off deer cam pics of a corn pile and saying all the deer left the property.

Farmers actually have problems with hogs but that problem could be fixed by fencing.

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Originally Posted by Ben2
He gets pics and kills a bunch of hogs whose ears are hanging off and or ripped off.


i doubt anyone's letting them go, especially if he has alot of hogs. Back in the day, folks use to do as bayed up described. But I don't think they do that anymore. I'd say that the dogs where too gritty and and they just got pulled off and pigs got away. Alot of times we catch them and kill them and the ears are still intact, just a little chewed.
We hunt alot of properties and the farmers wont results.

Also pigs will chew on each other, nasty animals!


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Re: Turning Hogs loose. [Re: BayedUp] #2538262
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Originally Posted by BayedUp

Farmers actually have problems with hogs but that problem could be fixed by fencing.

If you can build an effective hog fence, you might become the most popular man in the world.
If you can do it for less than $10 a foot, you'll be the busiest man in the world.


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Re: Turning Hogs loose. [Re: Ben2] #2538272
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I happen to know where several effective hog fences are. I can’t give you a price on what they cost but if farmers are losing what they say they are they would pay for them self very quickly.

Re: Turning Hogs loose. [Re: Ben2] #2538772
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I kill a bunch of hogs in high fences, electric fences, hog wire fences, etc.....


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Re: Turning Hogs loose. [Re: ElkHunter] #2538885
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Originally Posted by ElkHunter
I kill a bunch of hogs in high fences, electric fences, hog wire fences, etc.....

I know where a 8.5 acre corn field is with rooting around the fence but no hogs on the inside......
I know where a 80 acre hog pen is with net wire and one strand of electric fence around the bottom that has held the same 2 wild boar hogs for the last 4-5 years......

I have caught several hogs inside of a fence also but they were not built with the intention of keeping hogs out. If you can fence one in you can dang sure fence them out.

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Why would someone cut the hogs ears off and then let them go?

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Originally Posted by twaldrop4
Why would someone cut the hogs ears off and then let them go?

He does it because it makes it harder to catch with dogs because the catch dog normally goes for the ear and so he can identify that it’s been castrated when it comes out in a green patch in deer season. He is the type of person that gets mad if you kill one of “HIS” hogs. I don’t hunt close to him (about 4 miles as a crow flies) but every now and then I will either get a picture of or catch one that he has doctored up.

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Field fence will keep hogs out, especially if you have a single strand of electric fence at the bottom. I don't think they will work near as hard to get in as they will to get out. But maintaining the fence is where it gets tricky. Looked at a chufa plot yesterday that is fenced and a large dead pine fell across the fence. Hogs haven't found it so far but will given enough time.

If I had to fence a large field to keep hogs out, I'd use a well-grounded high tensile electric fence . The small diameter stuff is too easy to break if they run into it. Not sure how the poly wire holds up but should be better than standard wire. High tensile is about $100 for 4000 feet.


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Re: Turning Hogs loose. [Re: BayedUp] #2538951
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Originally Posted by BayedUp
Originally Posted by twaldrop4
Why would someone cut the hogs ears off and then let them go?

He does it because it makes it harder to catch with dogs because the catch dog normally goes for the ear and so he can identify that it’s been castrated when it comes out in a green patch in deer season. He is the type of person that gets mad if you kill one of “HIS” hogs. I don’t hunt close to him (about 4 miles as a crow flies) but every now and then I will either get a picture of or catch one that he has doctored up.


also makes it more dangerous for the dogs. I saw a man take a severe curb stomping over cutting ears many, many years ago.


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Re: Turning Hogs loose. [Re: Ben2] #2538978
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We spend a considerable amount of time just maintaining a barb wire fence around a hundred acres of pasture. I'd hate to think how much work a hog fence would require.
It's smarter and easier to kill every hog that gives you a shot.
I know several farmers who'd be likely to to shoot YOU if they found out you let one loose.


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Re: Turning Hogs loose. [Re: Ben2] #2539040
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Shooting every hog you see doesn’t make a dent in the population. Everyone wants a quick and easy fix but it doesn’t work like that.

Option A- Do nothing and complain.

Option B- Build a fence and maintain it. Hunt and trap every chance you get.

Option C- Hunt them and trap them and when you can’t be there let someone else do it.

Option D- Use poison and run the risk of killing non target species or people.

Their isn’t a quick fix. It takes work or money no matter how you do it. Hence why landowners don’t care unless they are trying to farm on the property.

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All of those options are viable.
My point was that anyone who doesn't kill every hog he can should be flogged.
Anyone who intentionally turns one loose should be hanged.


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Re: Turning Hogs loose. [Re: BayedUp] #2539134
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Originally Posted by BayedUp
Originally Posted by twaldrop4
Why would someone cut the hogs ears off and then let them go?

He does it because it makes it harder to catch with dogs because the catch dog normally goes for the ear and so he can identify that it’s been castrated when it comes out in a green patch in deer season. He is the type of person that gets mad if you kill one of “HIS” hogs. I don’t hunt close to him (about 4 miles as a crow flies) but every now and then I will either get a picture of or catch one that he has doctored up.

Don't they usually cut tails off too.


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Re: Turning Hogs loose. [Re: Ben2] #2539187
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Most people that Barred hogs removed the tail or marked ears. Very few people actually cut the ears completely off

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they cut the ears off so a catch dog can't grab em there


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I just don't understand a farmer having to fence off a 40...80 or 100ac peanut field? Tie that field in with all his others...could be talking thousands of acres. Jeebus, that's a helluva expense he'd have to undertake...to maybe keep pigs out. And yes they're already losing money...so, why should they have to throw more at a losing cause? Just quit planting peanuts and when peanut butter gets outrageous enough in price, maybe then pigs will go on the most wanted list.


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Originally Posted by gman
I just don't understand a farmer having to fence off a 40...80 or 100ac peanut field? Tie that field in with all his others...could be talking thousands of acres. Jeebus, that's a helluva expense he'd have to undertake...to maybe keep pigs out. And yes they're already losing money...so, why should they have to throw more at a losing cause? Just quit planting peanuts and when peanut butter gets outrageous enough in price, maybe then pigs will go on the most wanted list.


I don’t know if you are aware, but pigs are already on the most wanted list. They are pushing to legalize poison. The problem is that most landowners don’t care enough to put forth the effort to work on the problem or to let someone else work on them. The only way to ensure that hogs don’t get in the crops is to fence the fields or not plant where hogs are a problem.

A landowner can kill 500 hogs a year off his property but if the surrounding landowners have hogs and aren’t doing anything it’s a losing battle

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It is a losing battle. And any numbnuts who turns one loose is part of the problem.


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Originally Posted by BayedUp


A landowner can kill 500 hogs a year off his property but if the surrounding landowners have hogs and aren’t doing anything it’s a losing battle


Same with coyotes. If neighboring folk want better results, too, then everyone has to get on or close to the same page in regard to hogs, deer, coyotes, poachers or whatever.

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I know for an absolute fact that one of the properties that I hunt plants peanuts (100 acres plus) successfully by using 2 strands of electric fence and temporary posts. And, it is in an area with a lot of hogs. I regularly catch them right by the field near the fence. It is portable and not a huge expense at all.
People are just gonna bitch about stuff no matter what.
You would think that people would know that by now.

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Good number of single strand high tensile electric fences in South Baldwin county and they have proved very effective. And its not just for peanuts, they eat mature wheat and there is a rumor hogs eat corn on the cob, TOO! These are completely portable, temporary fences. As Danny said they will root up to the fence and with food less than 10 away they will stay out of the crop.
Bayed Up summed it up pretty well!

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I hope the hogs become extinct when poison is used by the state soon!

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Originally Posted by Ben2
I hope the hogs become extinct when poison is used by the state soon!

If they do it will save me close to $14,000 dollars a year between leases, dog food, equipment, medicine, gas, and overtime days that I turn down to hunt. Lol

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LOL

Ain’t that the Truth!!!

Not to mention, I might get me one if those big Lawsuit payouts from eating that stuff. Heck, if they are paying folks for Talcum Powder and Roundup....nontelling what this will be worth! smile

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