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Re: Is this Stand Your Ground?
[Re: jb20]
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07/21/18 08:26 PM
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Centralala he shouldn't have pulled it..but he did and early enough the threat was retreating he shouldn't pulled the trigger there was too much distance to warrant that Then he should have not pulled the gun until the guy comes toward him.
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Re: Is this Stand Your Ground?
[Re: hunterbuck]
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07/21/18 08:27 PM
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2 choices here, pull the gun and shoot or don't pull the gun. You gotta be kidding me. That's the ONLY two choices he had in your mind? When he was on the ground what was the third choice? He pulled the gun while on the ground, the guy was retreating....how about NOT shooting and killing the guy? Thanks, glad we agree. That falls into not pulling the gun.
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Re: Is this Stand Your Ground?
[Re: centralala]
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07/21/18 08:28 PM
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jb20
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Centralala he shouldn't have pulled it..but he did and early enough the threat was retreating he shouldn't pulled the trigger there was too much distance to warrant that Then he should have not pulled the gun until the guy comes toward him. 100% correct
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
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Re: Is this Stand Your Ground?
[Re: jb20]
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07/21/18 08:31 PM
07/21/18 08:31 PM
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Centralala he shouldn't have pulled it..but he did and early enough the threat was retreating he shouldn't pulled the trigger there was too much distance to warrant that Then he should have not pulled the gun until the guy comes toward him. 100% correct It's really not hard. He had 2 choices. Pull the gun or not pull the gun. There is no third option.
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Re: Is this Stand Your Ground?
[Re: dagwood]
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07/21/18 08:31 PM
07/21/18 08:31 PM
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He pulled the gun while on the ground, the guy was retreating....how about NOT shooting and killing the guy?
Thanks, glad we agree. That falls into not pulling the gun. So, you think every time a gun is pulled, it needs to be fired? Cops just got a whole new direction.
"You think I care? Roll Damn Tide"
Have you tried Google?
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Re: Is this Stand Your Ground?
[Re: MarksOutdoors]
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07/21/18 08:33 PM
07/21/18 08:33 PM
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Since we talkin race now, the dead guy wouldn’t have pushed a black guy. They’d
jaw some. I definitely agree with this. White skin is seen as weakness by most young, black males. I doubt he would have physically confronted another young, black male. I tend to think it’s more as less tolerant with whites and looking for a reason.
Nathan Carl Goff 19 Sept 2016 - 14 Jan 2017.
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Re: Is this Stand Your Ground?
[Re: hunterbuck]
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07/21/18 08:34 PM
07/21/18 08:34 PM
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He pulled the gun while on the ground, the guy was retreating....how about NOT shooting and killing the guy?
Thanks, glad we agree. That falls into not pulling the gun. So, you think every time a gun is pulled, it needs to be fired? Cops just got a whole new direction. When he was laying on the ground i said he had 2 choices, pull the gun or not pull the gun. Give me a third option.
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Re: Is this Stand Your Ground?
[Re: centralala]
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07/21/18 08:35 PM
07/21/18 08:35 PM
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He pulled the gun while on the ground, the guy was retreating....how about NOT shooting and killing the guy?
Thanks, glad we agree. That falls into not pulling the gun. So, you think every time a gun is pulled, it needs to be fired? Cops just got a whole new direction. When he was laying on the ground i said he had 2 choices, pull the gun or not pull the gun. Give me a third option. I already did. You didn't say "pull the gun or not pull the gun". You said "2 choices here, pull the gun and shoot or don't pull the gun".
Last edited by hunterbuck; 07/21/18 08:38 PM.
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Re: Is this Stand Your Ground?
[Re: doekiller]
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07/21/18 08:52 PM
07/21/18 08:52 PM
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I think pulling a gun was enough to deter any further action the guy wasn't coming for more after he saw the gun.. In this day and age just pointing a gun at another person is considered assault. This is why I subscribe to the idea of don’t pull a gun until it’s time to shoot it. If the gun needed to come out it needed to be fired No it isn’t. But, keep spouting off incorrect legal information. “Pointing a gun at a person is likely to threaten their sense of safety and can certainly give the impression of intent to harm, so people are charged with assault for it.” https://blogs.findlaw.com/blotter/2016/01/is-it-a-crime-to-point-a-gun-at-someone.htmlI’ll concede in the state of Alabama just pointing a gun would seem to be no more severe than menacing. intent to injure and an actual injury look to be the hurdles to cross for assault.
Last edited by CatHeadBiscuit; 07/21/18 09:22 PM.
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Re: Is this Stand Your Ground?
[Re: dagwood]
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07/21/18 09:47 PM
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I do feel like this will eventually go to trial and a good chance he will be found guilty. Just going by the evidence seen in this thread.
Florida has mandatory minimums for crimes involving guns. The way I understand it. If you use a gun in a crime, minimum 10 years. If you fire the gun, that's minimum 20.
I think your probably gonna see more of these type incidents too. The politicians and media has race relations in a frenzy right now.
Last edited by goodman_hunter; 07/21/18 09:48 PM.
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Re: Is this Stand Your Ground?
[Re: jake5050]
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07/21/18 10:40 PM
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I like the stand your ground law. Like the sheriff said he should not have put his hands on the man. If he would have talked instead of pushing the old weaker man to the ground he would be alive today. Maybe the next person that thinks about putting their hands on someone that is weaker than them will think twice before doing so. You can clearly see the the aggressor was going to something else to the man while he was on the ground UNTIL he saw the weapon. How do u know who the weaker person is? I was taught to never underestimate your opponent regardless of age, color and size...
How many people am i willing to sacrifice for freedom?
Everyone. All of them...
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Re: Is this Stand Your Ground?
[Re: MarksOutdoors]
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07/21/18 10:41 PM
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Everyone of you would have the opposite opinion if the shooter was black and the dead guy was white. Rachel Dolezal, is that you? You are just taking a wild arse guess. I don't care what the color is. If someone blindsided me onto the ground, I'm likely pulling on them. I doubt I'd pull the trigger but I don't know. My bet is the DA will take it to a Grand Jury and get the outcome he wants.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: Is this Stand Your Ground?
[Re: ford150man]
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07/21/18 10:53 PM
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Lots of wrong in that video, based just off what we see.
1-Lady shouldn’t have parked there
2-Old guy shouldn’t have confronted her over a stupid parking spot.
3-Young guy shouldn’t have attacked.
4-Old guy shouldn’t have shot him once the young guy started retreating. Just because you pull your weapon doesn’t mean you HAVE to pull the trigger. Be prepared too? Yes. Have too? No. The firearm did its job at just the sight of it. The old man murdered him. This. Sad for all involved
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Re: Is this Stand Your Ground?
[Re: jb20]
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07/21/18 11:01 PM
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Well we dont know what was said but if that guy was cussing my wife n kids id hit him Word to the not so wise jb20 and James words don’t hurt but he found out that putting your hands on somebody will get you killed. You people are so damn bad. Why not walk away and live another day. Now with that being said someone touches my family then it’s on and I’m not going to push, shove or fist fight you. I’ll use any means to dispatch them quickly. But you can run your trap all day and I can walk away.
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Re: Is this Stand Your Ground?
[Re: RCHRR]
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07/21/18 11:54 PM
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Well we dont know what was said but if that guy was cussing my wife n kids id hit him Word to the not so wise jb20 and James words don’t hurt but he found out that putting your hands on somebody will get you killed. You people are so damn bad. Why not walk away and live another day. Now with that being said someone touches my family then it’s on and I’m not going to push, shove or fist fight you. I’ll use any means to dispatch them quickly. But you can run your trap all day and I can walk away. Meh my times to valuable to even respond....I'm done with this thread....
How many people am i willing to sacrifice for freedom?
Everyone. All of them...
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Re: Is this Stand Your Ground?
[Re: dagwood]
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07/22/18 12:50 AM
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He shoulda pistol whipped that heifer for parking in the handicap spot
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