No, I never said he was 100% right.

Sorry, but I have said to people in those spots "hey..if you arent handicapped you shouldnt use that spot..there are people that actually need to use them!" before myself.

So youre saying that confronting someone who isnt handicapped parked in a handicapped spot should not be done. Just let the people park there?

And if he was handicapped...well yes, it is his business.

And that if you do go and say "Hey, youre not handicapped...those spots are for people that are. You should move" means that someone now has the right to assault you? Its your thought process that is scary.

You use force against anyone these days, you better plan on force being used back. In this case, that force was deadly...and apparently justified in the eyes of the LAW..not public opinion.

Sorry for the guy, but THEY should have not parked there, AND He should not have assualted the guy. They broke 2 laws..one just a ticket...the other the crime of ASSAULT.

Instead of it ending peacefully, the dead guy chose the wrong course of action and it cost him his life. Actions have consequences...sorry to say.

The dead guy chose to be violent as he was bigger and younger and thought hed get away with it with no consequences. Wrong decision on his part.

You act like the people parking in the handicapped spot, then assualting an older guy is acceptable! Thats crazy..

It is also the problem with the country today. No personal responsibility. You park in a handicapped spot, not handicapped and personally I think everyone should say "Hey, Are you too dam lazy to walk? REAL handicapped folks NEED that spot..as they freaking cant!"

Not just ignore it and act like it is fine. The lack of accountability and personal responsibilty for ones actions these days is sickening to me.

Jesus.
Crazy old fuk was waiting for a confrontation and got his twisted dream.
Can even see elements of that mindset at times on this very forum.

Oh snap!! you might need to look at the by definition rather than knee jerk. I wouldn't want you on my jury.

Exactly what I'm saying. It's not your place...it's illegal to park in a handicap parking place and that is why we have the police. One of the FIRST things you learn in Florida, when you get your concealed weapons permit, is that you're not a police officer and that you are NOT to purposely put yourself into situations like the gentleman did. Situations like this give concealed carry a very bad look and the droves of folks coming to the defense only add to it. He may have met all of the conditions of the stand your ground law. but what he did was 100% wrong and tells me that the SYG needs to be looked at strongly.

I lived in Florida for 3yrs, I'm fully aware of the definition. You are correct, if you're as stupid as that SOB that did the shooting you wouldn't want me on your jury.

OK..well sorry buddy...."see no evil, hear no evil" doesnt work with me. I guess your idea of personal responsibility only applies to law abiding citizens.

And while it is 100% wrong IN YOUR OPINION...however, it is not in mine or a lot on here ...nor OBVIOUSLY in the eyes of the law governing Florida.

Your personal feelings do not Trump the LAW.

By the way..it HAS been looked at "strongly" many times. Guess what..it is STILL THE LAW. That says it all...sorry to tell you.

Definitely as you would be IGNORING the word of law because it offends your sensibilities. Law isnt about how YOU personally FEEL about a situation..it is if it is WITHIN THE LAW. This clearly was...that is why he was not charged.

Just remember, you put yourself in that situation, you are the aggressor and the following could be used.


"Officer, I was in fear of immanent bodily harm and had to defend myself"

That old man put himself on the ground? This all could have ended with a basic verbal altercation, but only one person physically attacked the other first. I don't have it in me to at my age to be scrapping with some young jacked up hot head these days - should I just lay there and let him come pummel my head into the ground? How many head-into-ground-pummels should be acceptable before I pull my CCW on him?

Not in Alabama it isn’t. That wasn’t defending yourself. You don’t legally get to kill someone because they pushed you. If I punch you in the face, you can’t shoot me. Now, if he had jumped on him as he was laying on the ground and attempted to continue the attack, the. I would say it was justified.

I say this and I defend these cases every day. That wasn’t self defense.

Police don’t enforce it because 99% of handicap parking is on private property.

Lots of wrong in that video, based just off what we see.

1-Lady shouldn’t have parked there
2-Old guy shouldn’t have confronted her over a stupid parking spot.
3-Young guy shouldn’t have attacked.
4-Old guy shouldn’t have shot him once the young guy started retreating. Just because you pull your weapon doesn’t mean you HAVE to pull the trigger. Be prepared too? Yes. Have too? No. The firearm did its job at just the sight of it. The old man murdered him.

I don't disagree. But damn ain't nuttin better than a good ole fist fight to cleanse the sole

Merica!!

read this rather than watch the video and there at the end is one of the people he threatened to kill prior to this shooting. This guy was on a mission to murder someone

https://abcnews.go.com/US/gunman-parking-space-shooting-charged-stand-ground-law/story?id=56715356

Must have missed what u wanted me to read? But pulling a gun and killing someone for pushing you down is a BS pussy move. Now ya'll can run with it But Guys like him are why there's no good fist fights too had...

I can't believe anyone would think this shooting is justified. Man walks out of store. Sees another man in his wife's face. Probably shouldn't have pushed him but after the push there was not threat. No hands in pocket. He's backing up. This is at minimum manslaughter.

parking in a handicap spot when you aint handicapped pisses me off
.But the dude was already on the ground and not a threat to anybody.

You might wanna watch it again. He didn't back up till he pulled the heater. And while he was moving towards him after pushing him on the ground, his hands went to his waistline.

Agree completely.

How many times have we seen someone on here talk about what they'd do to someone if they saw them attacking their family?

That dude was obviously yelling and pointing at the guy's lady/kids, and the now deceased guy did EXACTLY what many people have said they would do in the same situation.

So, I guess they think it would be ok for whoever was yelling at their wife and kids, who they pushed down, to pull out a gun and shoot them dead?