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Re: Did Trump screw up? [Re: leroycnbucks] #2530470
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I just hope his giving them just enough rope to hang themselves with.

Re: Did Trump screw up? [Re: WmHunter] #2530477
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WmHunter - all that may be true. If it is then what has China done? More? 85% of that? I'm guessing you could come up with a list just as long

Here is the question.....

Then why aren't the Libtards completely foaming at the mouth that we would do anything to hinder our "great" relationship with the Chinese (Communist Party)? They should be calling for Sanctions on China. Instead they are crying because Trump wants to balance our trade deficit?

They have a term for that.

It's called Hypocrisy.

The whole situation is nothing more than a complete lie.

Trump did screw up but the media's depiction of the whole situation is completely untruthful.


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Re: Did Trump screw up? [Re: Crawfish] #2530488
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To start with, why can’t we ever stay on topic ? Folks always want to deflect the conversation on to something else when there’s no good explanation or answer to a question….. “What about the Chinese?!?.....What about illegal immigrants!?!......What about democrats!?!.....What about Obama!?!”…..

I know……What about the topic at hand….. Trump siding with Putin instead of our own intelligence agencies? Why?




Originally Posted by Crawfish
cnc, is that not the same thing stupid Liberal democrats do everyday that they breath.


So to answer your question Crawfish…..Yes……So just take one out and insert the other. if Trump were trying to convince you that the far left is really your friend……he never criticized them….he threw his own people under the bus to defend them…..he suggested that we even work hand in hand with them like his cyber-security comment yesterday………Wouldn’t it leave you scratching your head a little as to why he was behaving that way???

Putin has some kind of leverage on him….


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Re: Did Trump screw up? [Re: leroycnbucks] #2530496
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Trust. The. Process.


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Re: Did Trump screw up? [Re: WmHunter] #2530564
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Originally Posted by WmHunter
Originally Posted by leroycnbucks
I don’t trust the Russian’s and I especially wouldn’t believe a former KGB agent over our intell. What about y’all?


You are right - Russia under Vladimir Putin is a very adversary country and an enemy of sorts.

So imo, this is Trump's worst and biggest mistake since taking office - the summit and his statements and interactions with Putin.

And it is all because of how the bs "Russia collusion" crap has affected him. He arranged the summit and dealt with Putin in Helsinki not on the basis of reality pertaining to our actual political relations with Russia but based on his hurt ego over the bs collusion allegations and all the bs deep swamp shenanigans pertaining to same.

Russia is in violation of the INF treaty (a drop dead serious issue), annexed Crimea and has militarized the hell out of it, started a war of land conquest against Ukraine (both in violation of the Budapest Memorandum/Treaty), has used natural gas as a weapon against Ukraine and the rest of Europe, has ramped up anti-American rhetoric inside Russia to the level of Cold War times, has squashed freedom of press/assembly/protest/speech and religion in Russia, supports Iran and North Korea and Venezuela, has dramatically increased the FSB (KGB) spying and espionage on the U.S. and the West, has had murdered dozens (if not 300 or so) journalists, has had opposition political opponents murdered - both inside as well as outside Russia, has engaged in massive cyber war against the U.S. and the West, has had one Russian political opponent poisoned with polonium (hence the rise of the phrase "Polonium Tea") and another with Novichok nerve agent - both in England, has political opponents imprisoned and harassed, and I could make a list that goes on another dozen pages, but the point is clear - Russia is the major number one adversary and quasi enemy of the US and Europe.

So yeah, Trump frucked up on this one in terms of his Helsinki summit and all the buddying up to the fascist Chekist KGB thug.


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Re: Did Trump screw up? [Re: CNC] #2530577
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[quote=CNC]To start with, why can’t we ever stay on topic ? Folks always want to deflect the conversation on to something else when there’s no good explanation or answer to a question….. “What about the Chinese?!?.....What about illegal immigrants!?!......What about democrats!?!.....What about Obama!?!”…..

I know……What about the topic at hand….. Trump siding with Putin instead of our own intelligence agencies? Why?
/quote]


CNC, my gosh son, open your eyes. If you cannot see from just the way that Brennan (CIA), the FBI and the DOJ handled things and the things they did illegally during the Obama regime, you're beyond hope .

- Clapper testified/lied to the public while under oath before Congress about spying on Americans and collecting data on them. " No we at no time had American citizens under survelience" Recently admitted that "oh yeah, I forgot about that, we did do that and we might have accidentally collected data on about 15 million Americans." He should be prosecuted for lying under oath and lying to Congress just like Flynn was. Why do you think that hasn't happened??? Maybe as a result of his position he has too much dirt on too many high ranking people?
- Govt IT staff, "we have proof that the Russians are working on a disinformation campaign. What kind of actions do you want us to take, here are some of our suggestions". Obama's girl Valerie Jarret, "stand down". Sorry CNC, it's right there in the published emails that the FBI, DOJ and state department have been hiding from Congressional oversight. This was a part of a group of recently freed up emails, via court order.
- CNC, you ever had a security clearance of been through a security briefing? I have. If I had done 1/1,000,000th of what Hillary did with classified information let alone had a private server to house it, I and any other normal person possessing a clearance would be under the jail and rotting in Gitmo. Instead, these same groups that you put so much faith and trust in, helped her hide it, while covering for her and Obama (yep, he violated laws too because he was emailing HIllary on her non-secure server). He's just as guilty as she is.
- the FBI, good Lord, where do I even start on them? Comey, McCabe, the FISA apps, Stroyk, Page, Meuller. They all committed treason by trying to dispose of a duly elected official but guess what, is the DOJ going to prosecute 5 of their top people? Nope not going to happen. If it did, anyone that they were involved with investigating and prosecuting during thier careers could petition for an appeal based on the fact that, if prosecuted, they would be proven liars and thus any investigation they were involved with, tainted. If the FBI did not have anything nefarious to hide, then why are they redacting everything in every email and forcing courts to have to order them to provide the information that Congress is constitutionally entitled to in its oversight role. I can assure you, it aint to protect national security. That alone should scare the crap out of you.

Is Trump a good guy? I honestly do not know. I think he's a pompus a-- but aside from his major screw up yesterday with Putin, has he been doing good for the country?. Yes. Has he exposed a ton of corruption in the highest levels of govt? Yes. Were we supposed to know any of the above information? No we werent, because you and your liberal buddies were supposed to have gotten old Hillary elected and all of this was supposed to have been swept under the rug, like none of it never happened. You can take this to the bank as the gospel. If Trump had done anything that was even remotely prosecutable or there was anything there to be found, with as many people as have been crawling in and out of his anal cavity since the day that he won the Repub nomination, someone would have found something and he would have already been impeached and or prosecuted. You can take that to the bank. It's still going on today, so what was that question you asked again.....why would Trump throw these agencies under the bus????? Because they have been proven to be corrupt at the highest levels.

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Re: Did Trump screw up? [Re: leroycnbucks] #2530598
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Did anyone else watch the Putin interview?


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Re: Did Trump screw up? [Re: leroycnbucks] #2530619
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Yes trump screwed up.



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Re: Did Trump screw up? [Re: Turkey_neck] #2530720
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Originally Posted by Turkey_neck
Originally Posted by whack-n-stack
I don’t blame Trump at all for having no faith in the FBI.

This



This^^^

Plus I think Trump is using Putin to get more money out of the European Union for NATO and their own damn defense. If they get scared that Trump and Putin are BFF's then they might start thinking about spending some money on their own defense instead of milking people like us to protect them, while at the same time bringing in hordes of "immigrants" and putting them on welfare.

The Progressive Liberals want us to be more like Europe, while the Wolves of the World like Putin are licking their chops knowing that he can take over whatever he wants and all Europe will do is give him a stern talking to.

We forget that Roosevelt and Churchill made an unholy alliance with Stalin. They had no choice. The World is still dealing with that.

Trump is either the biggest dumbass in the World or he's playing everyone. And if he's the biggest dumbass in the World (Like the Liberal Media would have you believe) then why after 2 years of investigations don't they have anything to pin on him?

Instead they (The opposition) indicts some Russian military spooks that they know and everyone knows will NEVER be prosecuted. And they do it right before the Trump - Putin summit for the sole political gain of forcing Trump to play one hand or the other. And he's still playing them.

Re: Did Trump screw up? [Re: BCLC] #2530728
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Originally Posted by BCLC
Trust. The. Process.


Honestly Nick Saban would be the best president since the beginning of time.

Re: Did Trump screw up? [Re: Irishguy] #2530825
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Trust. The. Process.


Honestly Nick Saban would be the best president since the beginning of time.

Now ya talkin grin


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Re: Did Trump screw up? [Re: jb20] #2530835
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Trust. The. Process.


Honestly Nick Saban would be the best president since the beginning of time.

Now ya talkin grin


Every other leader of the World would be fired within a few years, because they couldn't out work and out recruit and out govern President Saban. Putin would get fired and have to take a job as the defensive coordinator of Lithuania or something.

Re: Did Trump screw up? [Re: leroycnbucks] #2530869
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I could see it. Sessions would immediately be brought in line or he'd be quickly processed. If Saban was prez, would Gus be Bernie Sanders, Maxine Waters or Nancy Pelosi?

Re: Did Trump screw up? [Re: BhamFred] #2531498
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Originally Posted by BhamFred
Originally Posted by CNC
If that performance yesterday didn’t raise some red flags to you then you’re being willfully ignorant at this point. Trump just threw his own intelligence agencies under the bus in order to side with Putin in front of the whole world. I believe that Putin definitely has some kind of leverage over him. Even when Putin was asked if he had leverage, he said everything but “No, I don’t”…….It could be some kind of financial leverage but I actually think it may be as simple as Trump sleeping with Russian hookers. I know, I know…..it’s far fetched to think that Trump would mess around with hookers but sadly that’s what I think it probably boils down to.



you really are a fkn idiot.


I would simply say “WMD in Iraq” if people start touting how good our intelligence agencies are.....

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Burbank, excuse me. There were WMD in Iraq. Ask Outback. The reason the Administration didn't show what was found is most were made by the USA and given to Sadam by Bush one. Military folks talked about what was found, but there was a media blackout.
B-Freddie, why waste your breath. That is common knowledge. That idiot outed himself when he had that rant about Idaho Mike. It showed he wasn't worth wasting your time on.


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Re: Did Trump screw up? [Re: perchjerker] #2531515
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Originally Posted by perchjerker
Burbank, excuse me. There were WMD in Iraq. Ask Outback. The reason the Administration didn't show what was found is most were made by the USA and given to Sadam by Bush one. Military folks talked about what was found, but there was a media blackout.


That and they were also given a sufficient amount of time to move the majority of them, unmolested, into the surrounding countries, with Syria being a prime example.

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Originally Posted by perchjerker
Burbank, excuse me. There were WMD in Iraq. Ask Outback. The reason the Administration didn't show what was found is most were made by the USA and given to Sadam by Bush one. Military folks talked about what was found, but there was a media blackout.
B-Freddie, why waste your breath. That is common knowledge. That idiot outed himself when he had that rant about Idaho Mike. It showed he wasn't worth wasting your time on.


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Re: Did Trump screw up? [Re: leroycnbucks] #2531852
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Wasn't it three months before our boys got sent over there,,,,, In three months you can hide or get rid of anything;;;

Re: Did Trump screw up? [Re: leroycnbucks] #2531950
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What it boils down to is that no matter what Trump said he would have been criticized by the news media and the dems. Trump knows that Russia was meddling in our election just like they always have and Trump knows that the upper echelon of our intelligence agencies cant be trusted as they have proven that themselves. If Trump would've said Russia was guilty then the dems and news media would be screaming HE KNOWS SO HE COLLUDED WITH THEM and if Trump would've said I completely trust our intelligence agencies they would've screamed WHY IS HE TWEETING AND SAYING SO MUCH NEGATIVE ABOUT THEM INVESTIGATING HIM. He was in as lose lose situation which is what the opposition wanted


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Re: Did Trump screw up? [Re: leroycnbucks] #2533454
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Yes, Trump screwed up. He's a babbling idiot........and a traitor!

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