In all seriousness…..Glad to hear it came up well… ..take some pics. Cereal grains, turnip (brassicas), and clovers work just as well in the fall planted in the right conditions like you did.

I was in a hurry this Am. I'll get pics later. The group 7 beans I no tilled in 30" rows are kicking butt but now the deer found them. Stupid goats. If they'd just wait 14 days and let em get som size they'd enjoy em a lot more.

Another non-believer bites the dust. Welcome, how was your crow? LOL

heres a couple of pics from fields I didn't show the other day. The top pic isn't as lush as the others, all of the clover up front in the field has burned up, but the back is pretty lush with white clover.

Bottom pic shows I need to spray some grass but the clover and Ic peas are doing great. Ic peas had only been in the ground for 12 days and they need some fertilizer from the looks of it. Doubt I spend the money on it though and just let them play out. The deer will eat them regardless



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These pics look alot like my fields ( minus the one taken over by pepper vine. ) What are you spraying?

clethodium 2E can be sprayed on the clover and the peas to kill the grass. I sprayed the clover with 2-4db for the broadleaves before I planted the peas.

Ive got little experience with sprays. This would be good for clover, peas, and sunflower according to the label but what about buckwheat? Technically not a grass so could it sustain the spraying as well?

Well tried to get fert out before the rain but got caught so waited till it eased up and finished the job. Put some 34-0-0 out on my top field that is the worst and doesn’t grow great and some 5-20-20 on my best field then mixed a little of both on the little field behind the house. I’ll wait a few weeks and put some more out to keep them going.

Anyone ever had deer eating mayhaws or may pops or whatever you call them?

industrial Hemp is now legal. Supposedly deer are very attracted to it. Is that essentially what sunn hemp is?

I've never seen it browsed at my place, and I hate that stuff, it spreads like wildfire.

Look closely and see if don't see some spikey, reddish colored caterpillars eating them.....nasty looking little boogers..... That's likely your culprit.

Ok, because I've found some vines stripped. I had never seen them browsed before, so it caught me off guard. I'm finding myself really looking closely at natural vegetation now. My row of honey suckle has been being hammered even with soy beans and peanuts around.

Deer are browser's. They eat hundreds of plants each day. They were getting along just fine, before any of us started planting food plots. Good to keep native browse in abundance because when it does get dry, and it will, native plants are a lot more drought tolerant and cost less to maintain.

My natural screen is kicking arse and taking names with all of these afternoon storms we’ve been getting. I'd say it's getting close to 8 ft.....I'm 6ft tall and it's taller than me holding my hands above my head......Plenty of growing season still left too. I'd like to see it get 10+ ft...…...

Did you plant it or is that volunteer? That's the dog fennel right?

Yes....It was volunteer…..I just picked out the thickest spot to begin with and then started managing FOR it in that strip…..I’ll mow it just after hunting season each year and let it get a jump on everything else.

Update on my IC peas and Clover: the Ic peas have been booming with all the rain and the deer not eating them. Now the deer are just starting to browse them around the edges, the clover is maintaining but has been choked back alittle. I have a feeling that as the IC peas get eaten, the clover will make another jump if the rain continues



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That looks great. Did you just top seed the IC Peas over the existing clover or plant it all at one time? I have never done IC Peas but have heard they will leave them alone up to a point and then decimate them.