Unless you are loading for a kid... why not just shoot a 140 and stop worrying about debating which bullet to shoot. You can just shoot a cheap Sierra. Works great. Then you can worry about something else like your scope, treestand or which color camo you want to wear.
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Unless you are loading for a kid... why not just shoot a 140 and stop worrying about debating which bullet to shoot. You can just shoot a cheap Sierra. Works great. Then you can worry about something else like your scope, treestand or which color camo you want to wear.
This. I shoot 140's and have never had an issue. I've hunted on and off for 25 years with the 708. HSM ammo loads a 140 Sierra Game King and they are cheap ( I think 24 bucks a box ) , accurate, and deadly. The Game King is a sure enough deer killer.
Unless you are loading for a kid... why not just shoot a 140 and stop worrying about debating which bullet to shoot. You can just shoot a cheap Sierra. Works great. Then you can worry about something else like your scope, treestand or which color camo you want to wear.
This. I shoot 140's and have never had an issue. I've hunted on and off for 25 years with the 708. HSM ammo loads a 140 Sierra Game King and they are cheap ( I think 24 bucks a box ) , accurate, and deadly. The Game King is a sure enough deer killer.
GK's are sure deer killers and can create a massive wound channel. Sometimes they don't exit which seems to bother some folks. Its never bothered me when a bullet doesn't exit because I've always found it in a stone dead deer. For some reason, the majority of bullets I've recovered have been 7mm 139 or 140 grain bullets, whether shot from a 7x57 or a 7mm rem mag.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
Molon Labe
Re: Question about 7-08 on deer
[Re: JohnnyLoco]
#2505401 06/12/1802:59 PM06/12/1802:59 PM
I read where Paul Mauser created the 30 cal first and the first and still current modern cartridge design (44Russian) was a Forty-Four, this many years later they are still awesome.
I always tell folks to pick the caliber you want based on cheap federal blue box ammo.
I know for sure a man can assemble a hunting apparatus from Walmart sporting section and never have the frets and concerns us wildcatter gun nuts have.
I hate to dredge up an old and worn out topic, but regarding a 7mm bullet's effectiveness on deer, please take a minute and look at my small rifle caliber thread I posted back in deer season.
Unless you are loading for a kid... why not just shoot a 140 and stop worrying about debating which bullet to shoot. You can just shoot a cheap Sierra. Works great. Then you can worry about something else like your scope, treestand or which color camo you want to wear.
This. I shoot 140's and have never had an issue. I've hunted on and off for 25 years with the 708. HSM ammo loads a 140 Sierra Game King and they are cheap ( I think 24 bucks a box ) , accurate, and deadly. The Game King is a sure enough deer killer.
GK's are sure deer killers and can create a massive wound channel. Sometimes they don't exit which seems to bother some folks. Its never bothered me when a bullet doesn't exit because I've always found it in a stone dead deer. For some reason, the majority of bullets I've recovered have been 7mm 139 or 140 grain bullets, whether shot from a 7x57 or a 7mm rem mag.
The 7 by 57 is the original 708
Re: Question about 7-08 on deer
[Re: JohnnyLoco]
#2505431 06/12/1803:34 PM06/12/1803:34 PM
I read where Paul Mauser created the 30 cal first and the first and still current modern cartridge design (44Russian) was a Forty-Four, this many years later they are still awesome.
I always tell folks to pick the caliber you want based on cheap federal blue box ammo.
I know for sure a man can assemble a hunting apparatus from Walmart sporting section and never have the frets and concerns us wildcatter gun nuts have.
That blue box ammo in 140 is 20 - 23 bucks a box .
Re: Question about 7-08 on deer
[Re: JohnnyLoco]
#2505434 06/12/1803:38 PM06/12/1803:38 PM
I still feel the 270 Win or 7mm mag are royalty in that kingdom.
I have killed deer with both of em and they are good for sure. The 7 mag has a wallup , the 270 not so much. But I like the short action hunting rigs the 708 comes in. the older I get the more I like comfort.
I’ve done my time with these chiquito shells and calibers in these chiquito actions, I like a man sized round for cold wet days instead of fumbling with micro rounds. The low prices on ammo don’t hurt either.
Re: Question about 7-08 on deer
[Re: BPI]
#2505436 06/12/1803:41 PM06/12/1803:41 PM
I read where Paul Mauser created the 30 cal first and the first and still current modern cartridge design (44Russian) was a Forty-Four, this many years later they are still awesome.
I always tell folks to pick the caliber you want based on cheap federal blue box ammo.
I know for sure a man can assemble a hunting apparatus from Walmart sporting section and never have the frets and concerns us wildcatter gun nuts have.
That blue box ammo in 140 is 20 - 23 bucks a box .
I’m not knocking the 7-08, I’ve wrung it out. It just ain’t the end all. From all my testing, the results can vary too much depending on ammo selection.
Last edited by JohnnyLoco; 06/12/1803:44 PM.
Re: Question about 7-08 on deer
[Re: JohnnyLoco]
#2505454 06/12/1804:01 PM06/12/1804:01 PM
I’ve done my time with these chiquito shells and calibers in these chiquito actions, I like a man sized round for cold wet days instead of fumbling with micro rounds. The low prices on ammo don’t hurt either.
If you're shooting anything short of a 338-378WBY Mag in a 5.4lbs mountain rifle you're flat out a girly man. My petite girlfriend typically totes a 460WBY while hunting squirrel hunting and her concealed carry gun is a S&W500 Snubnose.
Re: Question about 7-08 on deer
[Re: JohnnyLoco]
#2505460 06/12/1804:13 PM06/12/1804:13 PM
I’m not knocking the 7-08, I’ve wrung it out. It just ain’t the end all. From all my testing, the results can vary too much depending on ammo selection.
Don't use the cheap blue box ammo. Use partitions if you want consistent performance every time.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
Molon Labe
Re: Question about 7-08 on deer
[Re: JohnnyLoco]
#2505463 06/12/1804:13 PM06/12/1804:13 PM
I’m not knocking the 7-08, I’ve wrung it out. It just ain’t the end all. From all my testing, the results can vary too much depending on ammo selection.
No it aint the be all end all. your right. But I haven't seen anyone here saying it is. It's just good. There are a lot of good ones. And this is the first time I've heard the 708 called a micro round.. lol
Plus the ammo selection for a 708 is basically just for deer. The 7 mag is not. No magnum really is. Just saying.
Like I said, the Older I get the more I like easy.
Last edited by BPI; 06/12/1804:15 PM.
Re: Question about 7-08 on deer
[Re: AU338MAG]
#2505475 06/12/1804:28 PM06/12/1804:28 PM
I’m not knocking the 7-08, I’ve wrung it out. It just ain’t the end all. From all my testing, the results can vary too much depending on ammo selection.
Don't use the cheap blue box ammo. Use partitions if you want consistent performance every time.
Yup. Quality bullets result in consistency. Putting cheap tires on an otherwise nice vehicle will quickly make you hate the vehicle due to either being cheap or mislead. There's enough data to support that the 7MM08 will drop every game animal in North America with two or so exceptions, Moose and Grizzly Bear.