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Calling Hal - 12 Gauge Apex Load #2502229
06/08/18 02:02 PM
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I have been shooting a 20 gauge 870 compact for the past few years with Federal Heavyweight 7s and recently Apex 9s (both 3"). I love the gun and have killed a lot of turkeys with it, but I wanted to pick up a dedicated semi-auto turkey gun and came across an ATA CY auto 12 gauge turkey for $300 at Academy (link below) setup with everything I was looking for (sub 6.75lbs, 20 ga, short barrel, pistol grip, drilled/tapped/rail, semi, gas) except it being a 12 gauge in lieu of 20. I couldn't say no to the $300 price tag and picked up the gun.

https://www.google.com/search?q=ata+cy+12+gauge+turkey+academy&rlz=1C1GGRV_enUS750US750&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiT_bu-3cTbAhVF4qwKHejfCe4Q_AUICygC&biw=1536&bih=760#imgrc=EQvqcLyBUXwXhM:

I will keep the 870 setup to continue to use myself as a backup or a loaner to anyone that I bring with me. I want to keep the recoil to that of the currently 870 setup or less.

I don't intend on handloading TSS, but want to shoot it so I will likely be purchasing some loads from Apex. I like my patterns to be between 50%/50% and 60%/40% in the 10" and 20" circles, respectively. I don't intend on shooting at turkeys beyond 40-45 yards, but want the gun to kill turkeys further in case I misjudge a distance. The gun is only chambered for 3" shells (no issue here as I see 3.5" TSS loaded shells as a waste).

I'm leaning toward shooting 1.5oz of 9s or 2oz of 9s or 8s in their 3" shells. Any opinions or suggestions here? Also has anyone found a good choke to shoot #8/9 TSS through this gun with? From what I can tell it is basically the old Weatherby SA-459 model with a little longer barrel.

Re: Calling Hal - 12 Gauge Apex Load [Re: bamahunt] #2502260
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First time I’ve ever heard of anybody swapping from a 20 back to a 12

Re: Calling Hal - 12 Gauge Apex Load [Re: bamahunt] #2502276
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Recoil will be much worse in the 12 than the 20 for sure. Not saying it wont fair well as a turkey gun tho. I've worked up a couple smaller payload 2 3/4" 12 ga load in search of less recoil and all so far have had significant more recoil than my 20s. Age, bad shoulder and my eyes are changing which turkey guns and sights I use now.

Re: Calling Hal - 12 Gauge Apex Load [Re: BrentM] #2510377
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Originally Posted by BrentM
First time I’ve ever heard of anybody swapping from a 20 back to a 12



I still have a 20ga but I went back to a 12ga shooting tss


"Just remember a gobbler has to win every time, you only have to win once"
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