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St. Paul’s suing AHSAA #2493229
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They filed a lawsuit over the new competitive balance rule. St Paul’s has enough money that they could probably tie this up in the courts for years.

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2018/05/st_pauls_files_federal_suit_ag.html

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Simple solution.......They don't like the AHSAA rules, they don't have to be a member. As a private school, they chose to join the AHSAA. And also as a private school, they get to pick and choose athletes from wherever they want so there should be "competitive balance" rules applied to them.


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I wonder why UMS Wright didn’t get moved up to 5A in football ?? I’m sure Terry Curtis didn’t have anything to do with that.. crazy

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I talked to a Madison academy parent last weekend and they weren’t happy about it either. If I understood right their enrollment counted 1.35 for every student already but now it would also be based on championships won. He said they would be playing in 5a next year.

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Originally Posted by jawbone
Simple solution.......They don't like the AHSAA rules, they don't have to be a member. As a private school, they chose to join the AHSAA. And also as a private school, they get to pick and choose athletes from wherever they want so there should be "competitive balance" rules applied to them.


They already have a 1.35 multiplier.

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According to the article Alabama is the only state that does this. SOME high schools get moved up and down every two years and they weren't competitive in the class they were already in. These private schools will be or soon be as good as any team in that class. They will just have to recruit more top players imo.Alot of private school players go to major colleges so I don't think it's any more dangerous for them to play in a higher classification.

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Quit your whining. Simple solution... stop recruiting top athletes and recruit top students.

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Re: St. Paul’s suing AHSAA [Re: SouthBamaSlayer] #2493518
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Private schools with the ability to recruit players shouldn’t be competing in the AHSAA anyways.

My senior year we lost the State Championship to a private school who had recruited every single ball player on the court for them. Let all the private schools play each other and let us poor folk enjoy our poor people stuff.


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Originally Posted by imadeerhntr
I talked to a Madison academy parent last weekend and they weren’t happy about it either. If I understood right their enrollment counted 1.35 for every student already but now it would also be based on championships won. He said they would be playing in 5a next year.


But I bet they wasn’t whining when they was busy beating up on the Pisgah’s, Sylvania’s and Geraldine’s of the world in football.

We played them a few times in High School Basketball. They had a 7 footer straight from Africa, name was Bawa. There wasn’t much that our team of 1A country boys could do with him. They wasn’t whining when they beat up on 1A teams either. grin


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Bawa didn’ have a birth certificate either if I remember correctly.


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Originally Posted by Dixiepatriot
Bawa didn’ have a birth certificate either if I remember correctly.

So, is he is running for president?

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You guys realize that the majority of state championships in football are won by public schools, right? It’s not like a private school wins every division every year, or even the majority of classifications every year.

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Originally Posted by SouthBamaSlayer
You guys realize that the majority of state championships in football are won by public schools, right? It’s not like a private school wins every division every year, or even the majority of classifications every year.


Not only that....you can bet your sweet ass that public schools recruit as well.

I can promise you Hoover does. Schools like Thompson have joined the game since Freeman arrived.

It happens.

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Originally Posted by SouthBamaSlayer
You guys realize that the majority of state championships in football are won by public schools, right? It’s not like a private school wins every division every year, or even the majority of classifications every year.



You're right. But you get a school like Madison Academy that will rack up every state championship that year for multiple years in a row. Only fair that if they're going to recruit players then they work off the multiplier as well as what ever other competitive balance rules that'll put them in a competitive classification.

Private schoolers can get pissy and think it's not fair, but the truth is they have a competitive advantage by being able to recruit. So there has to be rules to address that.... Or... If they don't like it then drop out of AHSAA. Simple as that really.

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Originally Posted by SouthBamaSlayer
You guys realize that the majority of state championships in football are won by public schools, right? It’s not like a private school wins every division every year, or even the majority of classifications every year.


I most certainly know that. In those cases, if they are losing more then they win, the private school should fire the Athletic Director and the Head of Recruiting Personel.


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Madison County was super excited to move up to 5a, they were finally getting away from Madison Academy....except that Madison Academy also moved to 5a and still in the same area. lol


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Originally Posted by jbatey1
Madison County was super excited to move up to 5a, they were finally getting away from Madison Academy....except that Madison Academy also moved to 5a and still in the same area. lol


Madison Academy’s a 5A now? We beat them in the 2010 3A baseball state championship. Luverne has since moved back down to 2A.

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Moving up for the upcoming seasons


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So why shouldn’t this rule apply to really good public schools? When a Sweetwater, Spanish Fort, etc comes along and wins 4/5 state championships, why shouldn’t they move up? You can bet that public schools recruit just as much as the private schools do.

Here’s one for you. My alma mater is a private school. While my siblings were in high school, they won or came in second in track and cross country all 4 years. They didn’t have a single recruit on their team. Under the new rules, they would move up, yet they hadn’t benefited from recruiting at all. How is that fair?

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According to an exassistant coach, Hoover doesn't recruit but turns football players away if they aren't needed.

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The funny part is that private schools do not have to actually win a championship ... they have the potential to start getting penalized when they make the quarterfinals.

FYI - MA hasn't won a state championship since moving to 4A two years ago but are being reclassed for football to 5A and will stay there if they make at least the quarterfinals the next two years.


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Originally Posted by Tigger85
According to an exassistant coach, Hoover doesn't recruit but turns football players away if they aren't needed.



Hoover turned Tagliavoia away, thats how he got to Thompson. Schools like Hoover aren't necessarily recruiting but they let it be known what positions they are looking for. When rezoning was done you can rest assured that some apartment complexes were kept in district.

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Originally Posted by SouthBamaSlayer
So why shouldn’t this rule apply to really good public schools? When a Sweetwater, Spanish Fort, etc comes along and wins 4/5 state championships, why shouldn’t they move up? You can bet that public schools recruit just as much as the private schools do.

Here’s one for you. My alma mater is a private school. While my siblings were in high school, they won or came in second in track and cross country all 4 years. They didn’t have a single recruit on their team. Under the new rules, they would move up, yet they hadn’t benefited from recruiting at all. How is that fair?



Well great for them. The school has a jam up track program with out recruiting, however I’m betting most schools aren’t going to give out a full high school tuition for a track athlete, I’m betting that kinda program is kinda, “come here if you are good” that way you can be show cased on a top notch team, get all kinds of exposure and possible help out chances for college scholarships.

In the case you speak of, they have dominated the classification they are in with much fewer overall paying students to chose from. They should be excited about the challenge of competing against even larger schools. Are these private schools that win consistently in what ever program they are in scared to compete at an even higher level? If they have a true competitive nature, they should be excited about it. When I played basketball, we were excited to play much higher competition, we were in a preseason ball camp with some of the biggest ball programs in the state, as a 1A school we were playing against and beating the biggest schools in the state that week. We Put a whooping on Hoover in the finals of the team camp. We would of played that level of competition all year given the chance, just to be able to compete.

To me it ought to help them out in a long run. The higher level they compete competitively, the more exposure they get, the more exposure and success they have, the more little Johnny’s rich parents want to send him to “x” private school over “y” private school or public school. Therefore more paying students, more funds to grow more programs and buildings, etc. They’re running a business. Higher levels or competition and success = lotta $$$

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You can see the argument on both sides. However, pubic schools have been luring certain kids for certain sports for a long time, for whatever reason, by whatever means. Just based on numbers of public schools, the argument can be made they do it more. How do you think the same schools are always really good at the same sports? Those schools that pile up championships over and over at one particular sport. They don’t just have kids in the same ages and grades that are really good at the same sport, over and over again - just by coincidence.

Have a multiplier and leave it at that. A school with 300 students competing with one over 1000 students is just dumb - since we know certain types of “recruiting” happens with all of them.

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You are funny Travis. Tuition doesn't pay for buildings and other infrastructure - at any school, at any level.


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No question some folks have no idea about the majority of private schools, or how they operate. And the “rich folks” stuff is silly for the most part. The majority of students at the school where my boys attend, come from hard nosed working families of country folks trying to get by and provide something better, plain and simple.

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Both my daughter and niece played volleyball for Saint Paul’s and they are being moved up to 6-A in volleyball also. They’ve won a ton of state titles with No recruits on either of their teams, they just start them young and emphasize playing travel ball..

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This is going to make another push towards something that has already been talked about and that is completely new classifications in AHSAA exclusively for private schools. The plan I saw has 4 classes. Big school south, big school south, small school north and small school south. I think this would draw some schools away from AISA so they eventually may even have more classifications. Who knows what it will cause, but you can rest assured there will be unintended consequences. The question would be are these going to be positive or negative?


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Originally Posted by turkey247
No question some folks have no idea about the majority of private schools, or how they operate. And the “rich folks” stuff is silly for the most part. The majority of students at the school where my boys attend, come from hard nosed working families of country folks trying to get by and provide something better, plain and simple.



I guess Private Schools in LASW are a completely different animal then the ones in Huntsville and Madison County.


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No question some folks have no idea about the majority of private schools, or how they operate. And the “rich folks” stuff is silly for the most part. The majority of students at the school where my boys attend, come from hard nosed working families of country folks trying to get by and provide something better, plain and simple.



I guess Private Schools in LASW are a completely different animal then the ones in Huntsville and Madison County.



Yea man. It's totally different. We went to private school in Selma cause we had to. Up here it's a status thing. Public schools up here are way better.


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No question some folks have no idea about the majority of private schools, or how they operate. And the “rich folks” stuff is silly for the most part. The majority of students at the school where my boys attend, come from hard nosed working families of country folks trying to get by and provide something better, plain and simple.



I guess Private Schools in LASW are a completely different animal then the ones in Huntsville and Madison County.



Yea man. It's totally different. We went to private school in Selma cause we had to. Up here it's a status thing. Public schools up here are way better.



He's not kidding when he says had to. Wasn't always that way but I'd send my children for a weekend in Chicago and if they survived that, New Orleans before I'd send them to my Alma Mater, Selma High.


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Nope was in public school til 6th grade. When rose, Hank and crew shut system down when Dr Rousell was fired. Selma coulda been a powerhouse in sports if we had all played together. All colors that is


When the Selma High guys, combined with a few from Morgan, a couple from Meadowview and Dallas County in summer league ball we were stout. Several state titles and I think it was four world series titles. We did well at Selma High in 4A competition. I imagine we could have been a lot better with our whole summer league all star gang.


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Originally Posted by turkey247
No question some folks have no idea about the majority of private schools, or how they operate. And the “rich folks” stuff is silly for the most part. The majority of students at the school where my boys attend, come from hard nosed working families of country folks trying to get by and provide something better, plain and simple.



I guess Private Schools in LASW are a completely different animal then the ones in Huntsville and Madison County.



Yea man. It's totally different. We went to private school in Selma cause we had to. Up here it's a status thing. Public schools up here are way better.



He's not kidding when he says had to. Wasn't always that way but I'd send my children for a weekend in Chicago and if they survived that, New Orleans before I'd send them to my Alma Mater, Selma High.



Same for me. I would have never darken the door of a private school if rezoning hadn't of happened. But when I was in school in the eighties private schools ( APSA Alabama Private School Association ) classifications was based on enrollment and not wins or losses on the ball fields. Is this no longer the case?


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Simple solution.......They don't like the AHSAA rules, they don't have to be a member. As a private school, they chose to join the AHSAA. And also as a private school, they get to pick and choose athletes from wherever they want so there should be "competitive balance" rules applied to them.


Private schools really dont get to pick and choose athletes because the zoning rules still apply for all transfers... and its not instant gratification when someone transfers in. Players are still required to sit out of all athletics for a full year unless a "bonafide" move is made. Mrs Wonda from the state has recently retired but I have seen her on multiple occasions driving around north Alabama checking for pictures on the walls and moving boxes at the new addresses of recent transfers. ts

Also, Its not as simple as " go play AISA ". They goal of High School athletics is to give students the opportunities. In most cases there is a reason that the schools is AISA stay in AISA... typically that is enrollment or funding. IF a private School has the means to compete in the AHSAA then they should be allowed to compete.

I attended a private high school in Walker county and have now worked in the public school system for 5 years.... Ive coached against some of the small private schools in the state and I can tell you that when they do get a transfer in its typically because that student couldn't earn a spot at a larger public school in the area OR their parents wanted to get them out of a poor public system.

As for the new "competitive balance rule" im not whole heartedly against it... I do believe however that if it is going to be implemented it should APPLY to All schools in the AHSAA.

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Originally Posted by SouthernRoots
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Simple solution.......They don't like the AHSAA rules, they don't have to be a member. As a private school, they chose to join the AHSAA. And also as a private school, they get to pick and choose athletes from wherever they want so there should be "competitive balance" rules applied to them.


Private schools really dont get to pick and choose athletes because the zoning rules still apply for all transfers... and its not instant gratification when someone transfers in. Players are still required to sit out of all athletics for a full year unless a "bonafide" move is made. Mrs Wonda from the state has recently retired but I have seen her on multiple occasions driving around north Alabama checking for pictures on the walls and moving boxes at the new addresses of recent transfers. ts

Also, Its not as simple as " go play AISA ". They goal of High School athletics is to give students the opportunities. In most cases there is a reason that the schools is AISA stay in AISA... typically that is enrollment or funding. IF a private School has the means to compete in the AHSAA then they should be allowed to compete.

I attended a private high school in Walker county and have now worked in the public school system for 5 years.... Ive coached against some of the small private schools in the state and I can tell you that when they do get a transfer in its typically because that student couldn't earn a spot at a larger public school in the area OR their parents wanted to get them out of a poor public system.

As for the new "competitive balance rule" im not whole heartedly against it... I do believe however that if it is going to be implemented it should APPLY to All schools in the AHSAA.


bulldoodoo. I don't have to move for my son to go from a public school to a private school and play sports immediately. If I want to send my son to a private school next year, all I have to do is enroll him and he can play. There are not "zones" for private schools.

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Simple solution.......They don't like the AHSAA rules, they don't have to be a member. As a private school, they chose to join the AHSAA. And also as a private school, they get to pick and choose athletes from wherever they want so there should be "competitive balance" rules applied to them.


Private schools really dont get to pick and choose athletes because the zoning rules still apply for all transfers... and its not instant gratification when someone transfers in. Players are still required to sit out of all athletics for a full year unless a "bonafide" move is made. Mrs Wonda from the state has recently retired but I have seen her on multiple occasions driving around north Alabama checking for pictures on the walls and moving boxes at the new addresses of recent transfers. ts

Also, Its not as simple as " go play AISA ". They goal of High School athletics is to give students the opportunities. In most cases there is a reason that the schools is AISA stay in AISA... typically that is enrollment or funding. IF a private School has the means to compete in the AHSAA then they should be allowed to compete.

I attended a private high school in Walker county and have now worked in the public school system for 5 years.... Ive coached against some of the small private schools in the state and I can tell you that when they do get a transfer in its typically because that student couldn't earn a spot at a larger public school in the area OR their parents wanted to get them out of a poor public system.

As for the new "competitive balance rule" im not whole heartedly against it... I do believe however that if it is going to be implemented it should APPLY to All schools in the AHSAA.


bulldoodoo. I don't have to move for my son to go from a public school to a private school and play sports immediately. If I want to send my son to a private school next year, all I have to do is enroll him and he can play. There are not "zones" for private schools.


If your son begins private school after attending public school, he has to sit out one year.

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Simple solution.......They don't like the AHSAA rules, they don't have to be a member. As a private school, they chose to join the AHSAA. And also as a private school, they get to pick and choose athletes from wherever they want so there should be "competitive balance" rules applied to them.


Private schools really dont get to pick and choose athletes because the zoning rules still apply for all transfers... and its not instant gratification when someone transfers in. Players are still required to sit out of all athletics for a full year unless a "bonafide" move is made. Mrs Wonda from the state has recently retired but I have seen her on multiple occasions driving around north Alabama checking for pictures on the walls and moving boxes at the new addresses of recent transfers. ts

Also, Its not as simple as " go play AISA ". They goal of High School athletics is to give students the opportunities. In most cases there is a reason that the schools is AISA stay in AISA... typically that is enrollment or funding. IF a private School has the means to compete in the AHSAA then they should be allowed to compete.

I attended a private high school in Walker county and have now worked in the public school system for 5 years.... Ive coached against some of the small private schools in the state and I can tell you that when they do get a transfer in its typically because that student couldn't earn a spot at a larger public school in the area OR their parents wanted to get them out of a poor public system.

As for the new "competitive balance rule" im not whole heartedly against it... I do believe however that if it is going to be implemented it should APPLY to All schools in the AHSAA.


bulldoodoo. I don't have to move for my son to go from a public school to a private school and play sports immediately. If I want to send my son to a private school next year, all I have to do is enroll him and he can play. There are not "zones" for private schools.


If your son begins private school after attending public school, he has to sit out one year.

Since when? I know several kids who have done it and not set out a year including my brother in law when he was in high school 10 years ago.

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Originally Posted by SouthBamaSlayer
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Simple solution.......They don't like the AHSAA rules, they don't have to be a member. As a private school, they chose to join the AHSAA. And also as a private school, they get to pick and choose athletes from wherever they want so there should be "competitive balance" rules applied to them.


Private schools really dont get to pick and choose athletes because the zoning rules still apply for all transfers... and its not instant gratification when someone transfers in. Players are still required to sit out of all athletics for a full year unless a "bonafide" move is made. Mrs Wonda from the state has recently retired but I have seen her on multiple occasions driving around north Alabama checking for pictures on the walls and moving boxes at the new addresses of recent transfers. ts

Also, Its not as simple as " go play AISA ". They goal of High School athletics is to give students the opportunities. In most cases there is a reason that the schools is AISA stay in AISA... typically that is enrollment or funding. IF a private School has the means to compete in the AHSAA then they should be allowed to compete.

I attended a private high school in Walker county and have now worked in the public school system for 5 years.... Ive coached against some of the small private schools in the state and I can tell you that when they do get a transfer in its typically because that student couldn't earn a spot at a larger public school in the area OR their parents wanted to get them out of a poor public system.

As for the new "competitive balance rule" im not whole heartedly against it... I do believe however that if it is going to be implemented it should APPLY to All schools in the AHSAA.


bulldoodoo. I don't have to move for my son to go from a public school to a private school and play sports immediately. If I want to send my son to a private school next year, all I have to do is enroll him and he can play. There are not "zones" for private schools.


If your son begins private school after attending public school, he has to sit out one year.


Unless he is enrolls at the school at the start of the 7th grade then he would be eligible immediately, otherwise he would be ineligible for 12 months from the day he enrolls, unless you move from your current school district in to the zone served by the private school.

And from the AHSAA: Private and/or parochial school zone lines for eligibility purposes are limited to the municipality in which the school is located. If the school is not located within a municipality, the school zone lines are the county system where it is located.


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Since when? I know several kids who have done it and not set out a year including my brother in law when he was in high school 10 years ago.


Since a while ago. I started high school in 2007, and it was that way back then. There are exceptions for moving to different cities, etc, but if your son transferred from Mt. Brook to Briarwood tomorrow, he would have to sit out a year. It's a necessary rule to keep private schools from calling the 15 best high school players in the city, telling them they get a full ride their senior year, and winning a championship every year.

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Since when? I know several kids who have done it and not set out a year including my brother in law when he was in high school 10 years ago.


Since a while ago. I started high school in 2007, and it was that way back then. There are exceptions for moving to different cities, etc, but if your son transferred from Mt. Brook to Briarwood tomorrow, he would have to sit out a year. It's a necessary rule to keep private schools from calling the 15 best high school players in the city, telling them they get a full ride their senior year, and winning a championship every year.


And if a student gets need-based financial aid (there are no atheletic scholarships allowed by the AHSAA) to attend a private school he will be ineligible his first year at the school regardless of whether a bonafide move was made .

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Simple solution.......They don't like the AHSAA rules, they don't have to be a member. As a private school, they chose to join the AHSAA. And also as a private school, they get to pick and choose athletes from wherever they want so there should be "competitive balance" rules applied to them.


Private schools really dont get to pick and choose athletes because the zoning rules still apply for all transfers... and its not instant gratification when someone transfers in. Players are still required to sit out of all athletics for a full year unless a "bonafide" move is made. Mrs Wonda from the state has recently retired but I have seen her on multiple occasions driving around north Alabama checking for pictures on the walls and moving boxes at the new addresses of recent transfers. ts

Also, Its not as simple as " go play AISA ". They goal of High School athletics is to give students the opportunities. In most cases there is a reason that the schools is AISA stay in AISA... typically that is enrollment or funding. IF a private School has the means to compete in the AHSAA then they should be allowed to compete.

I attended a private high school in Walker county and have now worked in the public school system for 5 years.... Ive coached against some of the small private schools in the state and I can tell you that when they do get a transfer in its typically because that student couldn't earn a spot at a larger public school in the area OR their parents wanted to get them out of a poor public system.

As for the new "competitive balance rule" im not whole heartedly against it... I do believe however that if it is going to be implemented it should APPLY to All schools in the AHSAA.


bulldoodoo. I don't have to move for my son to go from a public school to a private school and play sports immediately. If I want to send my son to a private school next year, all I have to do is enroll him and he can play. There are not "zones" for private schools.


Youre mistaken on this... Most of the time the " zone" is the city limits that the school is in but you absolutely have to make a bonafide move before legally being eligible to play if you transfer in once you start middle school.

Edited: sorry went back and read other posts.... But these are correct. I believe there is another exception if you transfer out of a school that is deemed " failing " by the state. This applies to transfers to other public schools as well.

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