I bet he was distracted trying to get the game check app to work.

http://www.wbrc.com/story/38233310/...rgoing-surgery-after-accidental-shooting

Good ol fashioned Glock groove

One of hundreds, if not thousands, of LEOs that have this happen that carry Glocks. When they first became popular it was very common.

The mark of the glock.
I can't understand how those junk heaps are still popular.

Will you please explain how or why this would happen with a Glock? I am just curious.

No safety, no grip release.
Just squeeze the trigger.
I've heard of several guys shooting themselves by catching it on the seat belt buckle.

horsechitt, they don't get their damn finger off the trigger. Lack of training, practice, and concentration.

Poor trigger control. Plenty of folks do it with any handgun, not just glocks.

It's damn near impossible to accidentally shoot any other handgun.
The glock is an accident waiting to happen.

I carried a glock for years, shot one yesterday. You have to stick yer damn finger in the guard to fire them. I have found them safer than any 1911 45, which I carried for many years.

Bullschit.

You don't pull the trigger it doesn't shoot plain and simple

he's lucky that 9mm didnt kill him

This

Except, with a Glock, anything can pull the trigger, like a seat belt or a stick.
With a 1911 your hand must be fully gripped AND pull the trigger.

And folks still shoot themselves with 1911's. The only case I have seen where a Glock fired without the trigger being pulled was a guy with a worn out leather holster that used the trigger guard for retention.

Looks like a clip for a snorkeling mask can pull a 1911 trigger.

http://www.theledger.com/news/20180...nded-after-accidentally-shooting-himself

This

Fluffy that story is bullchit. To fire a 1911, the grip safety must be depressed, not just the trigger pulled. Unless you've carried one everyday for a couple of years you don't know this, but it is a fact.

Agreed, no safety is the main reason I didn’t purchase a glock for me or my wife

Who you calling fluffy you old fart?

I'm plenty familiar with how a 1911 operates, just saying that there are accidental discharges, and linked one for proof.

If Fred says horseschitt I’m saying horseschitt too.

Glocks are no different than pit bulls. You never know when one will turn on you. They both oughta be outlawed.

I guess you're sayin you gave up yer old habits. I heard Gary still misses you! No matter what any investigator says, it's impossible to fire a 1911 unless the safety is depressed and the trigger pulled. I saw incidents in the Army that claimed the same thing, but no way to fire one unless both are done at the same time. (Snowflake) :grin
That link you posted mentioned the trigger being fowled by the clip, but no mention of the grip safety. I'd say as in most misfires someones bugger picker was involved.

I agree 100%

Too many Leos for too long put their fingers on the trigger as the pulled it out of the holster relying on the safety being engaged, which is a different issue, pulling it out in the heat of the moment they also pulled the trigger. Miami, which is the first city that I can remember going to Glocks, almost abandoned them after several officers shot themselves in the ass training.

This is happening less and less often as more emphasis is put on doing it correctly in training.

To be clear, the gun is doing exactly what it was supposed to do, the operator wasn't. I suspect, but do not know if this is the case for the Chief.

Prayer for his recovery.

Rule #3 Keep your finger off the trigger untill sights on target. Seen AD's with every type of handgun. Are glocks ugly? Yes they work too.

Perch, according to the article, a clip had gotten wedged in the trigger guard. When he went to holster the firearm, it discharged. He had the grip safety depressed as he was holstering it and the clip lodged on the holster depressing the trigger. I love 1911’s and used to be like Outback about Glocks. My main CC is now a Glock 23.

The fact remains Sonny, both must be depressed for the thing to fire. his hand caused the thing to fire, it didn't just go off. Oh, so you went to the dark side too!

Anything getting inside the trigger guard can pull the trigger on a Glock.

Up until about 2 years ago, a Glock was my daily carry. I have carried Glocks since 1991, and the only AD from any of them was when a dumbass buddy picked it up and started playing with the trigger. He dang near shot a hole through his floor board.

I have seen the stories about folks having ADs, but everyone has come back to something got in the trigger guard. If you aren't safety conscience enough to pay attention when re-holstering, you probably shouldn't be carry a Glock, or any gun for that matter.

Having said that, when Glocks first hit the market, there were real ADs. The carbon steel parts were rusting and causing the firing pins to stick in the fired position. The guns would fire when a round was chambered. That's why all Glock metal trigger parts are stainless now.

There are no accidents, just screw ups.

With that said Glocks are devil’s spawn for Austrian girly men to play with. Put some American steel in your hand when you come out to play with the big boys.

Fred don't know schit from shinola.
He's just a grumpier old man.

Actually I don't hate glocks just because of their poor design.
I really hate toy guns, made of plastic.
Real men tote iron.
There's only one reason that most LEOs carry a Glock.
They were the low bidder.

This.

Not shooting oneself shouldn't require much concentration, in my opinion.
If it does, you got the wrong gun.

Dang, a Paw Paw argument. Sh!t bout to get real

That long haired hippie dish rag don't scare me.

I carry a Glock for one simple reason, I shoot it better when under stress. Period. FTR, my Glock 22 spent an unknown number of years at the bottom of Eastlake. I replaced the springs and barrel and good as new.

I watched a Glock rep at Gadsden drive over a mile with two Glocks tied dragging off the rear bumper of his car. Got to the range, cut em loose, and started shooting. Yes, they were drug loaded. No malfunctions.

no chirrens allowed here......

Ida hit that stupid sumbitch right in the mouth.

not me, he had a loaded gun in both hands.....

So, does that mean a Colt Lightweight Commander is off your list too?

How about an Airweight .357 S&W revolver?

Or the Lightweight S&W full sized 1911?

Anyone wanting to part ways with a sorry ol Glock just let me know.

I hear they have one over at the Po-Po academy in Jacksonville that has never been cleaned , it has 10s of thousands of rounds down the pipe, no weapon related failures . They are trying to break it but it won't quit.

Springfield makes the 1911.
Anything else is a wannabe.

John Browning and Samuel Colt said horsechit

Colt 1911s suck.

This exactly. To the detractors making comments about lack of safety, a safety is a mechanical device that can fail. One of the top rules of gun safety is never put your finger on the trigger until you are ready to fire. I know what I'm talking about unlike some on this site. I was a Glock armorer and am a Glock certified instructor. It won't going bang unless you pull the trigger. I was an LEO and a law enforcement instructor experienced with Beretta and Glock neither of which has a mechanical safety lever. I never had an accidental discharge. Many a high risk traffic stop and my Glock only went bang when I made it go bang. During my time we only had 1 accident on the range due to an idiot LT not keeping his finger off the trigger. Only accident because of an idiot. Training teaches you to keep your finger off the trigger unless you're going to fire your weapon. It's not the Glock. It's the idot carrying the Glock.

Posting for Goodman

thats ^^^^ the most dangerous dog I've never seen.

Dibs on a g19 gen5

Fight of the Century.
Right here on Aldeer.
BhamFred vs Out Back.
Don’t miss this one!

don't make me put a Clan MacBeth beatdown on yer azz......

That's what Rudy Roo totes, he said he likes it.

Did somebody say Colt 45?

OK, then what about the Lightweight Champion made by Springfield?

The Light Weight Champion

Sounds like he's just mad because when he tries to be a BA and shoot one gangsta style, that heavy .45 brass catches him right between the eye....,and reminds him what real men shoot.

BTW, there is an interesting aftermarket fix, that replaces the rear slide cover plate on the Glock. You hold it down with your thumb, and it prevents the trigger from moving rearword. Completely passive, so it is not in the system on firing. Neat solution. If I did a lot of holstering drill with a Glock, I'd think hard about it.

https://taudevgroup.myshopify.com/products/striker-control-device

Read a few years back the ALL the ADs with 1911s, when analyzed, became NDs, with on proven exception. A policemen was in an MRI lab escorting a prisoner, when they turned he machine on. It jerked the weapon out of his holster, and probably pulled the firing pin block upward, against the relatively light spring pressure. There you go, an actual AD with a 1911. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2010/01/03/dont-bring-a-gun-near-an-mri/

So is the Keltec pmr 30 a plastic POS?

And let us not forget every AR ever made

Gosh, I ain't got anywhere near that kind of expertise.
I was just a range safety officer and taught weapons tactics, in the navy.
For some odd reason, in my military records, it says weapons expert.
However, we didn't use Glocks. I wonder why?

Dis gon be good y'all.

Me and Fred can't fight.
Every time we try, we just end up drunk.

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Gosh, I ain't got anywhere near that kind of expertise.
I was just a range safety officer and taught weapons tactics, in the navy.
For some odd reason, in my military records, it says weapons expert.
However, we didn't use Glocks. I wonder why?
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Well the Navy is great. Us Army folks love that they are able to carry us and our heavy equipment when we need them to. Weapons expert, what does that have to do with knot tying?

Gosh, I ain't got anywhere near that kind of expertise.
I was just a range safety officer and taught weapons tactics, in the navy.
For some odd reason, in my military records, it says weapons expert.
However, we didn't use Glocks. I wonder why?
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Well the Navy is great. Us Army folks love that they are able to carry us and our heavy equipment when we need them to. Weapons expert, what does that have to do with knot tying?[/quote]

Ain't never been on a ship.

Does Troy drink White Russians??????

Bottom line, glock shooters are just jealous that they couldn't afford a 1911.
Glocks are cheap, for a reason.

Pfffft

Nope. I own two of each.

Real 1911?
$409
https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog...e_9mm_luger_5_10+1_wood_grip_black_parke

Maybe the best line I ever read. Hell yeah

My fixed up Glock shoots much better than my Springfield TRP did, so much so the TRP hit the road. A few fixes on the glock and I think they are superb shooters. JMO though. They could go ahead and produce them with high end finishes and still be cheaper than some popular 1911’s.

Outback’s going to chew you a new asshole. A 9mm 1911? Blasphemy.

Hahaha figured I might get one by him with it being a WWII themed gi sights government length gun

My brother in law which is in the navy had a aftermarket safety installed on his glock.He droped it one day while hitching a boat , went off and hit him in the tricep. Got em a cool scare .

I watched and listened as a tactical handgun instructor said, "Everybody has their gun preference but this is why I carry Glocks." Then he tossed his G19 gen 4 in the mud, walked over to it and stood on it occasionally grinding it into the mud while he kept talking about weapon reliability. Then he picked it up, wiped some of the mud off with his hand and filled the bank behind his target with lead.

Reliable? No doubt.
Ugly? You betcha
Safe? Every bit as safe as it's operator.

I will admit a ghost trigger, springs, and upgraded sights can make that polymer turd shine. Add a drop in barrel in the mix and you've got yourself a mighty fine shooter.

Side note: I always wondered if a Glock would hold up to pistol whipping a fella like a steel framed pistol. PawPaw Troy you ever had to give anybody a noggin' flogging?

Never heard of her

Glocks are the most reliable pistols for unreliable conditions.

If left one in a boat overnight, soaking wet, covered in fish blood and river silt. All it took was wiping down the three parts it takes to strip it. For me, it’s the consistent simplicity of design.

No, according to Out Back, that's a wanna be ... The only real 1911 is made by Springfield

Fred says glock so that pretty much the end of the debate! I will continue to tote the glock until Fred tells me to tote something different.

What kind of Berretta? I carried a 92F before we went to Glocks, and I bought my Berretta when we traded them in and it has a mechanical safety on it. In fact I'm looking at it as I type this.

Were it not for the fact that all Glocks cut my hand between my thumb and index finger when I shoot them, I'd still be carrying one.

Outback loves lever-action rifles with scopes on them, too.

twice, but I used a Rem 870 both times. That hard buttstock to the jaw takes the fight out of them. Both guys were armed with rifles, one had shot at me, the other had shot a deputy. Note: never let me get inside three feet of you when I have a shotgun in hand. Damn any handgun for real fighting.

I carried 96G .40 that only had the decock. Different than 92F Jawbone. 96G has decock lever only no safety. A decock lever is not a safety. Pull the trigger it will go bang.

I carried a 96G for a while, issued by the state. Decock, no safety. It pointed like a boat anchor so I carried a S&W Sigma because the dept wouldn't allow a glock or a 1911.

Watch this video. A 1911 would never spit that many rounds out without a failure to cycle. The polymer guide rod in a Glock could be considered the weakest link. It was the first thing to fail in that test. I replaced the guide rods in both of mine with stainless ones. I love 1911’s, but for reliability in the harshest most extreme conditions, the Glock wins hands down. You don’t have to keep the innards spit shined for it to function properly.

Go stand in the corner.

I don't have a thing against a Glock but I had one when I was younger and sold it when my kids came along. I just didn't want a weapon in the house that could be fired simply by removing it from the holster and pulling the trigger. I carry a 1911 because I have several features that can keep a child from firing it. Hammer down when at home (hammer back when not at home), the safety, and the grip safety. A kid cannot simply pull a 1911 out of a holster and go to blazing like he could with a Glock IF it's stored properly. There have been accidental discharges from pretty much every firearm ever made, but Glocks are so far in front in that category it's really not even a debate.

In the hands of a trained individual who knows what they are doing (like Troy) and handle all guns with the utmost care, the difference between the 1911 and the Glock is pretty negligible.

In the hands of someone careless and inexperienced, the Glock is far more dangerous for accidental discharge.


Unfortunately out of all gun owners, ask yourself which category you have more of.


To each his own though..... if you want to carry a Glock you have your reasons and I'm all about it. They are a hell of a tool. I simply got rid of mine because I had small children in the house and at that age I didn't trust them around it. When they got old enough to understand and knew dad would beat that tail if they even looked at it wrong. I've never had an issue and to my knowledge none of my kids has ever touched my Kimber.

Damn you BC, how dare you bring common sense into this discussion!

I think the video above just reinforces the fact that them plastic guns are trash. If my gun jammed up in under 5 minutes at the range and I had to replace parts, I'd be pissed. Then it jammed again a second time with the new parts added. In about 10 minutes time that fellers gun stopped working twice. Keep them plastic guns for the girls and children.

thats gonna be that red dog toting the glock in the picture.

Probably cause Glock didn't give the right congressman enough $$$

The military is smarter than the average joe, their weapons have some form of safety on them.

Plastic dog toys.... just another great use for a Glock.

there so tough a pitbull cant even wear them out!

You do realize that guy put a few thousand rounds down range before each of the malfunctions, right? A 1911 would have had a failure before a thousand rounds of continuous fire. You wouldn’t have had to replace the guide rod, but it would have had to be stripped and cleaned. The Glock, once a stainless guide rod is installed, will keep going for thousands of rounds until the polymer lower heats up enough to jam the slide. No one is going to put that many rounds down range at one time, but I like to know that if I’m in a situation where my life depended on my pistol, that it won’t jam up because it got dirty. Like I said, I love 1911’s and used to despise Glocks. The fact of the matter is, Glocks are more dependable than 1911’s. I wasn’t a firearm instructor in the military, but I was a Gunners Mate and my job was working on guns. But honestly if the SHTF, I would probably have a single action revolver on my hip.

The dumbazz I know that shot his self in the leg with his kimber 45 would feel differently. It all boils down to do dumb chit win prizes.

I agree. Glocks are tougher and more durable weapons that will fire in a host of environments including mud, sand, water, etc..... IMO the 1911 is superior in the safety department. I just chose the 1911 because I like safety aspect and if I have to shoot someone it's going to be in a parking lot or in my house (intruder) and there probably won't be any beaches or muddy swamps in the equation. For that reasoning the 1911 is for me. Both have pros and cons and both can accidentally discharge in the hands of someone not qualified to use it.

Outback would loose it if his neighbor had a pit bull named Glock.

I don't doubt your conclusions, but I'd like to see a side by side comparison.

A 96G is a Double action only!