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Re: Bergara HMR [Re: AU7MM08] #2471706
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Here we go again....
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So are you saying just don't ask what crazy accurate actually means?[/quote]

You can ask, but you already answered your own question in your post above. Accuracy is subjective. No one has to "justify", to use a previous quote from you, just what their definition of accuracy is, to you. Benchrest accuracy, hunting accuracy or hit a paper plate at 100 yards accuracy - they're all subjective to the person behind the gun.
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I'm not asking anybody to justify what he considers crazy accuracy. I just want to know if his definition matches mine so I know how well the gun actually shoots,because I may be interested in one myself. I just asked for an actual quantifiable number to know how the gun shoots.

That's all. No reason to act like I'm criticizing him or saying what he considers accurate isn't the same as what I consider accurate. I have no way to know without an actual measurable size. No worries though.I thought it was a simple question before I was rudely attacked for asking.

Re: Bergara HMR [Re: R_H_Clark] #2471967
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Originally Posted by R_H_Clark


Here we go again....


So are you saying just don't ask what crazy accurate actually means?[/quote]

You can ask, but you already answered your own question in your post above. Accuracy is subjective. No one has to "justify", to use a previous quote from you, just what their definition of accuracy is, to you. Benchrest accuracy, hunting accuracy or hit a paper plate at 100 yards accuracy - they're all subjective to the person behind the gun.
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I'm not asking anybody to justify what he considers crazy accuracy. I just want to know if his definition matches mine so I know how well the gun actually shoots,because I may be interested in one myself. I just asked for an actual quantifiable number to know how the gun shoots.

That's all. No reason to act like I'm criticizing him or saying what he considers accurate isn't the same as what I consider accurate. I have no way to know without an actual measurable size. No worries though.I thought it was a simple question before I was rudely attacked for asking.[/quote]
Rudely attacked?? You sure get butt-hurt easily.


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Re: Bergara HMR [Re: AU338MAG] #2471990
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I'm not asking anybody to justify what he considers crazy accuracy. I just want to know if his definition matches mine so I know how well the gun actually shoots,because I may be interested in one myself. I just asked for an actual quantifiable number to know how the gun shoots.

That's all. No reason to act like I'm criticizing him or saying what he considers accurate isn't the same as what I consider accurate. I have no way to know without an actual measurable size. No worries though.I thought it was a simple question before I was rudely attacked for asking.[/quote]
Rudely attacked?? You sure get butt-hurt easily. [/quote]





That's possible. Did I overact to you expressing "here we go again" to a question I didn't see anything wrong with? If so why the hostility or disdain or whatever to my simple question?

Re: Bergara HMR [Re: AU7MM08] #2472004
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Welcome back RH Clark. Your expertise is very much valued on these subjects thumbup


Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!!
My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty
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Re: Bergara HMR [Re: 257wbymag] #2472049
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Originally Posted by 257wbymag
Welcome back RH Clark. Your expertise is very much valued on these subjects thumbup


I hope others enjoy your sarcasm.

Re: Bergara HMR [Re: R_H_Clark] #2472051
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Originally Posted by R_H_Clark
Originally Posted by 257wbymag
Welcome back RH Clark. Your expertise is very much valued on these subjects thumbup


I hope others enjoy your sarcasm.

We do enjoy it. thumbup


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Re: Bergara HMR [Re: AU338MAG] #2472075
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Originally Posted by AU338MAG
Originally Posted by R_H_Clark
Originally Posted by 257wbymag
Welcome back RH Clark. Your expertise is very much valued on these subjects thumbup


I hope others enjoy your sarcasm.

We do enjoy it. thumbup


That's good. Maybe somebody is getting something from the thread. It's obvious you boys don't want to talk like adults.

Re: Bergara HMR [Re: AU7MM08] #2472137
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RH, chill dude. Chill.


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Re: Bergara HMR [Re: AU7MM08] #2474507
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Rifle arrived today. So far it seems like the fit and finish is really nice.
Put some grease on the races and contact points of the bolt and it slicked in nicely.

Re: Bergara HMR [Re: AU7MM08] #2474538
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FYI, Bergara recommends a break-in procedure.

Not saying a rifle does or does not need a break-in procedure, just saying they recommend one


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I have come to the conclusion that a break in procedure helps a rifle foul less, be easier to clean, and make you sleep better about spending the money you just spent on a rifle.

Re: Bergara HMR [Re: odocoileus] #2474555
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Originally Posted by odocoileus
I have come to the conclusion that a break in procedure helps a rifle foul less, be easier to clean, and make you sleep better about spending the money you just spent on a rifle.


The scope won't be here until August it sounds like cry

Re: Bergara HMR [Re: AU7MM08] #2474561
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What scope?


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Re: Bergara HMR [Re: CKyleC] #2474562
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What scope?


It's part of a like a group buy/close out. The scope is half off what is listed.
https://www.gaprecision.net/ga-store/optics/optics-bushnell-lrhs-4-5-18x44-g2h.html

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Re: Bergara HMR [Re: AU7MM08] #2474652
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You putting a rail on it?

If you know of a good range close for both of us,you can try out my Bushnell LRHS 3-12. I got rings too if you go picatinny. I had to decide between it and the 4.5-18 when I got mine. Just if you ever thought you might like the smaller scope.

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I've got a Talley 20MOA inbound.
From what I found, they're the cheapest 7075 aluminum rail on the market.

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Originally Posted by AU7MM08
I've got a Talley 20MOA inbound.
From what I found, they're the cheapest 7075 aluminum rail on the market.


I don't know much about if there's any difference,a long as you buy good metal from a reputable manufacturer,and I am sure Talley is.

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Originally Posted by R_H_Clark
Originally Posted by AU7MM08
I've got a Talley 20MOA inbound.
From what I found, they're the cheapest 7075 aluminum rail on the market.


I don't know much about if there's any difference,a long as you buy good metal from a reputable manufacturer,and I am sure Talley is.


I discussed this with Gundoc about 6061 VS 7075 VS Steel.
Like most thing it seems like for me, I went with a middle of the road route, thought 6061 might be a bit soft and steel as overkill on a 6.5Creedmoor.

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Originally Posted by AU7MM08
Originally Posted by R_H_Clark
Originally Posted by AU7MM08
I've got a Talley 20MOA inbound.
From what I found, they're the cheapest 7075 aluminum rail on the market.


I don't know much about if there's any difference,a long as you buy good metal from a reputable manufacturer,and I am sure Talley is.


I discussed this with Gundoc about 6061 VS 7075 VS Steel.
Like most thing it seems like for me, I went with a middle of the road route, thought 6061 might be a bit soft and steel as overkill on a 6.5Creedmoor.


I did some reading after we talked. To put in in perspective 6061-T6 which is commonly used in the gun industry has a minimum yield strength of at least 35, 000 PSI.

7075-T6 is at least 63,000 PSI.

6061-0 which is annealed has a minimum yield of 8,000 PSI which is still plenty for a scope base/rail.

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