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Re: Game Check again [Re: ElkHunter] #2470361
04/26/18 04:17 PM
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I certainly do not hate the DCNR!!

That is a far reach and extremely antagonistic thing to post.

Just because I disagree with SOME of their actions/policies dang sure does not mean I hate the Dept; much less any individuals in it! It simply means we have a difference in opinion. And, I fully accept and Respect the fact that the Dept has the weight of the Law on it’s Side. So, I comply with their Rules and Regulations. But, it does not mean that I have to like it.

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Re: Game Check again [Re: ElkHunter] #2470362
04/26/18 04:18 PM
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centrala, FYI, field personnel like GWs and biologists have very little to any say so in what Montgomery does.


I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....

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muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
Re: Game Check again [Re: BhamFred] #2470376
04/26/18 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by BhamFred
centrala, FYI, field personnel like GWs and biologists have very little to any say so in what Montgomery does.


I understand and that's what I was trying to say. For me, I had much rather deal with the field people than the office people. They are just more in touch with reality. Something else, once they come out of the field and into an office, won't be long and they will be out of touch with reality and into that office/politic mode.

Re: Game Check again [Re: ElkHunter] #2470381
04/26/18 04:50 PM
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Speaking of being out of touch with reality the main ones that are and only catching an occasional comment is this CAB we have now. When it first started it seemed to serve its purpose for hunters. Now it's serving a purpose but I'm afraid only a small, more elite hunter is being served.

Re: Game Check again [Re: ElkHunter] #2470382
04/26/18 04:50 PM
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I think they could get a close figure if they rode in a chopper with thermal imaging for a couple weeks at night


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Re: Game Check again [Re: ElkHunter] #2470387
04/26/18 05:00 PM
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I killed two trophy bucks with my bow on private land and didn't report either of them. Mainly because I forgot.

Re: Game Check again [Re: jhardy] #2470724
04/26/18 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by jhardy
Originally Posted by ElkHunter
Originally Posted by BhamFred
zero for me.

grandson killed a big eight point. I spent a day and a half trying to report it, said screw it. They don't like it they can come get the 11 year old grandson.

That what yer looking for Barry????


Actually I was wanting to give the law abiding and non hating DCNR hunter a chance to post.



Barry, you and I have emailed and I respect your position, but to give the impression that those on the other thread are not law abiding is gross misrepresentation. No on has said that that anyone is not law abiding. I don't think you implying it against of bunch of the posters on the other thread (me being one of them) is a good thing.

For some reason some of those that are or were in the Alabama "system" and in cahoots with Sykes seem to think that that the hunting population must agree with every jot and tittle of what Sykes thinks or they are non law abiding and haters. That is simply not the case and I for one take offense to you implying it.

Barry, serious question and I am not implying anything. Have you gained or do you stand to gain from Sykes having control? I am not throwing darts, but if the answer is yes to either one of those, you should probably disclaim your opinion when you state it.


I would say just the opposite is true, If there was ANY hint that I was getting preferential treatment some would scream bloody murder. And I understand that. I have sold hog traps to the state. That has nothing to do with him being in "power". Field agents put in requests for traps that they need. If Montgomery comes up with the money, then I sell to them. I will say this, like all state vendors, it takes me months to get paid. LOL

I did not mean to offend you. I talk to a lot of ALDEER members that simply do not post because they don't want to have the wrath of some of the key board cowboys come down on them. That other thread had turned into a DCNR/Sykes bashing thread. I simply wanted to give others a chance to chime in.

Honestly, I don't think Game Check will ever work. But, I don't fault the man for trying.


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The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke
Re: Game Check again [Re: ElkHunter] #2470741
04/26/18 10:00 PM
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Sykes doesn't use Jager Pro traps. He uses Bull Creek.


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Barry Estes

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke
Re: Game Check again [Re: ElkHunter] #2470963
04/27/18 08:45 AM
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Thanks for the reply Barry. I respect your answer. I just wanted everyone to realize that lawbreakers and haters might be on the thread, but it definitely isn't everyone. And I work with alot of clients that have state contracts so I know how difficult it is to get paid.

As far as key board cowboys, yes there are some, but most of them are easy going when you meet them. I have been on here since the beginning, just don't post alot. Heck, I remember outback telling me I didn't know what the hell I was talking about when I answered someone about the tax code 16 or so years ago. Of course that is when he was outspoken. He's calmed down now. rolleyes

Re: Game Check again [Re: ElkHunter] #2471766
04/28/18 02:34 AM
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Tagged all of mine as well. Used the phone app. And it's works good one time .Then it's a act of Congress the next.. I almost give up on my turkey. It kept telling me season was over with?

Re: Game Check again [Re: ElkHunter] #2471803
04/28/18 06:30 AM
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When using Game Check to help determine the population, I wonder how people like me mess it up? I probably watched 100 bucks and 150 doe this past year and shot one buck, which I game checked. Back in the days of the deer management program, we used observation sheets to help with the data, but not anymore. It seems like that could skewer the numbers.


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Re: Game Check again [Re: ElkHunter] #2471808
04/28/18 06:41 AM
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Jawbone, then there is the guy that saw three bucks all season and killed all three. And two of the ten does he saw. He killed every deer he saw and had a shot at.

Then there is you...shoots one and lets 200+ walk.

how does this help figure the herd numbers because guy one killed five deer to your one but he sure as hell dosen't have anywhere near the herd size you do.


I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....

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Re: Game Check again [Re: jhardy] #2471817
04/28/18 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by jhardy
Heck, I remember outback telling me I didn't know what the hell I was talking about when I answered someone about the tax code 16 or so years ago. Of course that is when he was outspoken. He's calmed down now. rolleyes

Jesus christ. I don't remember what I said last week
You remember something I said 16 years ago?
Are you my wife?

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Re: Game Check again [Re: jawbone] #2471835
04/28/18 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by jawbone
When using Game Check to help determine the population, I wonder how people like me mess it up? I probably watched 100 bucks and 150 doe this past year and shot one buck, which I game checked. Back in the days of the deer management program, we used observation sheets to help with the data, but not anymore. It seems like that could skewer the numbers.


It’s never going to tell them how many deer are in the woods. All it can show is if we’re killing more, less, or about the same over time. Those trends point out to them that something is changing and they have to figure out why.

The thing that sucks the most about it is that so many people tried to point these things out ahead of time…… but folks just blindly supported it anyways as if they were gonna be able to magically pull something out of their arse once the numbers started rolling in.


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Re: Game Check again [Re: ElkHunter] #2471845
04/28/18 08:27 AM
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the bad part is, if kill numbers go up. Is that gonna show them theres more deer or just more people reporting?


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Re: Game Check again [Re: ElkHunter] #2471847
04/28/18 08:33 AM
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Who really cares report or not it is just a dang deer! flag

Re: Game Check again [Re: ElkHunter] #2471865
04/28/18 08:57 AM
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You can't micromanage deer populations on a state wide basis, it is more of a per section management plan that is needed. Hunters have to use good sense, just because a state biologist panel says you can kill 3 bucks and a doe PER DAY thru a long season doesn't mean it is a good idea to shoot all of them.
Game Check is a program that I don't think will ever work, mainly because the idea doesn't make sense to most hunters. What damn good does it do to count dead deer with a program that is still a SWAG and you don't know the live deer numbers. Browse lines would tell you more.

Re: Game Check again [Re: perchjerker] #2471945
04/28/18 11:56 AM
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I shot one deer and reported it.

Originally Posted by perchjerker
I'm all for anything that will help catch the criminals among us that refuse to abide by the buck limit.



No amount of regulations and tags will stop the poachers. It is like taking guns away from law abiding citizens to stop criminals from having guns.


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Re: Game Check again [Re: BhamFred] #2472079
04/28/18 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by BhamFred
Originally Posted by MTeague
Originally Posted by jhardy
Comply with the regulation. Yes. Like it. No.

I am guessing that you will find more people on this site complying than the state average.


I'm going to guess that the people who dont report them are more than likely not going to comment and say they didnt.


this^^^^^^^^.




I haven't reported one yet. Not going to.

And just for the record Barry has helped me clean ALL of the ones I've killed since the program began, and he hasn't turned me in YET!

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Re: Game Check again [Re: ElkHunter] #2472256
04/28/18 09:20 PM
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Reported the buck I killed. The does on the depredation permit though...lol

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